Off-Topic Detransitioner/Desister Stories - People you know or heard about deciding to return to their original gender/sex

Interesting specimen of BPD who almost- almost- has a little bit of insight for half a second before collapsing back into cluster B oblivion:

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She found a guy that makes her pussy tingle but the need to be special (i.e. literally anything but straight) has rotted her brain to the point where she'd rather irreversibly mutilate herself than admit she wants dick.

These are the cases that really stretch my sympathy to its absolute limit. Universe gave her a free get out of jail free card and she still threw it away because of ego (i.e. admiting she was wrong about being a genderspecial).

If you hate normal people so much that you'd rather hack yourself into pieces than admit you are one then go ahead and turn yourself into a freak for all I care.

Nobody has unlimited empathy and there are people (including other detransitioners) far more deserving of it than this person.
 
Oh, poor thing. This is always such a sad thread. Makes me almost want to touch the museum exhibit and offer her some advice. Falling in love with a best friend who you're sexually attracted to, who makes you feel mentally "safe" and comfortable, is a wonderful thing. I hope she makes the right choice and gets off of hormones, and gets her ass to trauma therapy.
Meh. For normal people, sure, that's a great moment. But she is not normal, by design, and she refuses to be normal about this either. She's "admiring from afar" and this guy has no idea that the weird Pat character at the office or whatever has the hots for him. It's pretty clear between the lines that she is obsessing over him rather than simply having a nice friendship on the verge of organically evolving into more. He is up on her BPD pedestal like no one else ever before, which means the crash into demonization when he sneezes funny is going to be that much more dramatic.

She found a guy that makes her pussy tingle but the need to be special (i.e. literally anything but straight) has rotted her brain to the point where she'd rather irreversibly mutilate herself than admit she wants dick.

These are the cases that really stretch my sympathy to its absolute limit. Universe gave her a free get out of jail free card and she still threw it away because of ego (i.e. admiting she was wrong about being a genderspecial).

If you hate normal people so much that you'd rather hack yourself into pieces than admit you are one then go ahead and turn yourself into a freak for all I care.

Nobody has unlimited empathy and there are people (including other detransitioners) far more deserving of it than this person.
Yeah. We all knew these gals back in the day. The ones who would sneer down on the rest of your school about how gross and boring "breeders" were- or to update the lingo, now I guess it's cishets. The way out of their conundrum is to shut up and sit still for a while, then course-correct and go about their lives. But they are so full of pride at not being a gross nasty normal person, they never will.
 
It's going to be so hard for this one (archive) to detrans because the whole high school thinks she is a true and honest boy and she is "stealth."

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One comment breaks the obvious to her- are you sure you're stealth or are people just humoring you?
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Indeed whenever one of these claims to be "stealth" I jet over to the profile (archive) for a look:

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'We will shut down these barbaric practices': De-transitioned teen, 18, who had a double mastectomy aged 15 SUES doctors who operated on her and 'told parents she was suicide risk'

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  • Chloe Cole said that she launched legal action to hold the doctors 'accountable'
  • The 18-year-old told how she is 'devastated' by operation to remove her breasts
  • She transitioned to a male aged 13 after telling her parents she was 'distressed'
  • She had the operation when she was just 15, before de-transitioning a year later
A de-transitioned teenager who had a double mastectomy aged 15 has revealed she is suing the surgeons who operated on her.

Chloe Cole said she launched legal action against the doctors to hold them 'accountable' for removing her breasts and pumping her full of puberty blockers.

The 18-year-old also told how she was 'devastated' by the operation and fears she will now never be able to bear children.

She transitioned to a male aged 13 after telling her parents she was 'distressed' with her gender and consulting medical professionals.

Cole, from Central Valley in California, had the life-changing surgery when she was just 15, before regretting it and de-transitioning a year later.

Now she said she was suing the doctors who performed on her and slammed them for letting a child make such a important decision.

She told Fox News' Tucker Carlson: 'They were concerned, and they wanted what was best for me.

But they weren't really sure what to do with me, so they sought professional help and from then on, I was basically referred [to] in my gender identity without any questioning from any medical professionals, and they pushed transitioning as the way to treat gender dysphoria.'

She told how she was devastated about losing her breasts and was concerned she would never be able to have children.

Cole said: 'As an adult, I will never be able to breast-feed whatever children I will have.

'I don't even know if, because I was put on puberty blockers and testosterone at only 13 years old, I don't know if I'll be able to conceive a child naturally.

'I made an adult decision as a child.' She said suing the doctors was an attempt to stop the practice from being done on other children.

She continued: 'I want to hold the adults that put me in harm's way accountable because what happened to me is horrible.

'But it also didn't only happen to me, that's the worst part. It's happening to children all over the U.S., all over the West, and it's spreading all over the world.

'I want to be able to create a precedent for other people who have been in my situation to find justice themselves.'

Her attorney Harmeet Dhillon said they have brought a medical malpractice suit against the doctors and she was being represented by Center for American Liberty.

She said: 'Our website at libertycenter.org has the letter, a very detailed letter that details all of the medical symptoms that Chloe has and the medical malpractice.'

She added: 'And frankly, the mutilation that was perpetrated by these medical professionals. We intend to shut down these barbaric and unnatural practices.'

Cole started suffering from gender dysphoria aged nine and spoke to a pediatrician about it when she was 12.

She claims she was then coerced into a gender transition operation and between the ages 13 and 17 took puberty blockers, hormones and had a double mastectomy.

Her lawsuit claims doctors told her her gender dysphoria would never go away and said she was at high risk of suicide unless she transitioned.

She claims they asked her parents: 'Would you rather have a dead daughter or a live son?'

Last month Cole branded Joe Biden's stance on 'gender-affirming' medical treatment 'dangerous.'

She said she believed the president was 'trying to advocate for further experimentation on children.'

In an interview with six progressive activists, including trans TikTok star Dylan Mulvaney, Biden was asked on his stance of whether states should regulate medical treatment for minors with gender dysphoria.

'Sometimes they try to block you from being able to access certain medicines, being able to access certain procedures and so on,' he said.

'I don't think any state or anybody should have the right to do that. As a moral question and as a legal question, I just think it's wrong.'

'What Biden was saying is dangerous,' Cole said in response. 'He's trying to advocate for further experimentation on children.'

Her response is built on the regret she now feels, suggesting that future teens could be led down a path toward irreversible treatment.

Gender dysphoria is the term to describe a sense of unease that a person experiences because of conflicting biological sex and gender identity.

Cole added she was 'disappointed' by Biden's decision to speak with Mulvaney and that the inception of the interview was politically motivated.

'I seriously doubt he actually believes in it,' Cole said

'He's an elderly man and his stances on things have been inconsistent over the years.'

Three 'Detransitioners' who have voiced regret for their decisions​

An increasing number of people who have undergone gender-transitional procedures are voicing regret for their choices, with many saying they feel they were influenced into making drastic choices without proper counseling.

A 32-year-old detransitioner from Massachusetts going by Shape Shifter says he was 'brain washed' into removing his penis by staff at Fenway Health and The Philadelphia Center for Transgender Surgery, who didn't warn him of the negative effects of surgery because it was 'bad for business.'

'I will never be able to get my penis back which is extremely traumatic for me,' he said in an August interview. 'I want it back and I can't. Sex is traumatic for me now because I've had botched surgeries.'

A 26-year-old from the UK named Sam says she regrets the transition she undertook at 21.

Sam said she made the decision to transition after a mere two-hour counseling session.

'I do believe that therapy should be involved at all stages of the transitioning process to help spot and explore red flags that may appear in someone's transitional journey.

'I also think more information should be given to individuals to make sure that their informed consent is truly informed.

Alia Ismail, a 27-year-old from Michigan, is detransitioning after becoming a male at just 18.

She legally changed her name to Issa in August 2015 and underwent a double mastectomy in February 2016.

But after realizing she wanted to de-transition, the 27-year-old stopped taking male hormones in February 2021 and is going by the name Alia again.
 
It's going to be so hard for this one (archive) to detrans because the whole high school thinks she is a true and honest boy and she is "stealth."

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One comment breaks the obvious to her- are you sure you're stealth or are people just humoring you?
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Indeed whenever one of these claims to be "stealth" I jet over to the profile (archive) for a look:

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Oh yeah she totally looks like a guy. No way anyone could tell she's definitely "stealth"
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Oh yeah she totally looks like a guy. No way anyone could tell she's definitely "stealth"
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I don't know what it is about being a masculine woman with a low voice, short hair, and a flat chest, but even if your bone structure is undeniably female, people tend to feel more comfortable referring to you as male. Something about better fitting the sex stereotypes/gender role of men than women, probably. It really is unfortunate that the pendulum has swung in such a way that being GNC invalidates one's sex.
 
This one claims she is so androgynous looking she has scared people in women's restrooms since childhood. She mentions trying to wear makeup to mitigate it but I wonder- does she buzz her hair and wear Carhartts? Because I am guessing the answer is "yes" given her posting history.
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I don't believe her at all. I think she's just another awkward "autistic" lesbian coming up with typical troon tropes to justify herself. "They tested me for intersex!" yeah right.
 
This one claims she is so androgynous looking she has scared people in women's restrooms since childhood. She mentions trying to wear makeup to mitigate it but I wonder- does she buzz her hair and wear Carhartts? Because I am guessing the answer is "yes" given her posting history.
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I don't believe her at all. I think she's just another awkward "autistic" lesbian coming up with typical troon tropes to justify herself. "They tested me for intersex!" yeah right.
It doesn't sound like she's claiming they actually tested her for being intersex, just that she got frustrated and asked her mum if that was why she struggles with not feeling like a girl — that's how it reads to me at least.

But yeah, she smells like buzzcut and masc clothes to me too. Hope she doesn't have that froggy voice thing going on too, poor lass.
 
It's going to be so hard for this one (archive) to detrans because the whole high school thinks she is a true and honest boy and she is "stealth."

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One comment breaks the obvious to her- are you sure you're stealth or are people just humoring you?
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Indeed whenever one of these claims to be "stealth" I jet over to the profile (archive) for a look:

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Not passable as male? But she's lifting her chin and scowling down at the camera! If she was a girl, she'd have her head tilted to the side and she would be smiling demurely, or making kissy lips.

I swear, it's like you know nothing about biology.


Still, I wish her the best and I hope she can someday look back at her Gayden Glare photos the way we all do with our teenage fashion mistakes.
 
So I used to be a Troon. Basically I had underlying mental health issues that led to me basically ending up loosing a job and all of that. The therapist I ended up with was one of those that had bitten the agenda and managed to convince me that as a somewhat effeminate gay guy I was trans and that was the crux of all my issues. Spoiler it wasn't infact it was an undiagnosed PD

So I got send to this affirm at all costs therapist, ended up paying Helen Webberly a fair bit for some dodgy HRT and for a while I was in this strange place. I mean I had doubts but then you had other troons basically shutting down any doubts and spinning this constant "its transphobic" argument. It was almost cult like. I mean I looked passable but whenever anyone asked questions it was always "transphobic" . Any "friends" who asked WTF were to be blocked etc.

When my MH started to improve I started to slip out of it. I was once seen by some other Troon dressing as a guy and then I got harassed by them to "reconsider" . Ended up having to nuke my social media

Basically I realised it was a "quick fix" to my MH problems and being a guy into dicks isn't a reason to take dodgy drugs or get some surgery. I ended up making peace with who I am once I got away from the influences.

The whole thing has left me with a chunk of my life I wasted, side effects from the HRT (one requiring surgery ironically) and a complete lack of self confidence.
 
It's going to be so hard for this one (archive) to detrans because the whole high school thinks she is a true and honest boy and she is "stealth."

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One comment breaks the obvious to her- are you sure you're stealth or are people just humoring you?
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Indeed whenever one of these claims to be "stealth" I jet over to the profile (archive) for a look:

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that last pic is literally eli from mgsv with mild down syndrome

I feel like shapeshifter belongs in this thread
he shared this really interesting article about how the 41% is from shitty journalism and false conclusions from shitty studies. it's apparently more like 20%.
 
that last pic is literally eli from mgsv with mild down syndrome


he shared this really interesting article about how the 41% is from shitty journalism and false conclusions from shitty studies. it's apparently more like 20%.
When all is said and done their deaths will likely be attributed to strokes, blood clots, and other complications. Ie, the surgery and meds will kill more of them than suicide will. And arguably many who like themselves do so because of the surgery and hormones.
 
I mentioned the other day that it keeps coming up on r/detrans that some of these messed up chicks still want to yeet the teets and the reproductive tract despite having "desisted". Either because of outright "dysphoria" about having a normal female body (so...still buying into trans shit while self identifying as a terf) or because of somatization of self-same psychiatric issues ("muh period muh back hurty"). The medical establishment having no special respect for the human person these days, let alone women's bodies, is more than happy to take any of those "reasons" and fill it in on the insurance reimbursement line.

Well here's the story (archive) of one who went through with the elective "hysto" at age 23:

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I don't buy that "no one told her." I think she simply tuned it out when people told her- chalking their problems up to them being dried up old boomers or having incompetent husbands or something else a 22 year old moron kweer would think.

Her profile (archive) is a litany of misery:

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Despite needing to be "lesbian" for reasons, she has a terrible crush on a guy at school. Oh well. You already canceled the "being a normal happy woman with a husband and kids" program, kid. No refunds. Enjoy your morally superior "butch" life, sans the body parts that make everyone else work properly.

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Well here's the story (archive) of one who went through with the elective "hysto" at age 23:

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Comments on this one are super funny:
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"Very intresting to know that the main reproductive organ could play a part in sexual pleasure."

Yeah truly, wild discovery. Nobody could have seen this coming. What's next? The stomach playing a part in digestion? Nah that's too far gone.

Despite needing to be "lesbian" for reasons, she has a terrible crush on a guy at school. Oh well. You already canceled the "being a normal happy woman with a husband and kids" program, kid. No refunds. Enjoy your morally superior "butch" life, sans the body parts that make everyone else work properly.
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Everyone tells her she's pretty with long her, so she intentionally makes herself as ugly as possible by cutting it to spite gender roles.
"Multiple people have said I look better with longer hair, I can't tell if ts gender role bs or if I do look objective better with long hair...fuck".
The gender ideology is so deeply engrained in these tools you could convince them wiping after taking a shit is a gender role and they'd go to work with shit in their ass just to spite the patriarchy.

They don't have a personality or a motivation or a will of their own, they just do the opposite of what society tells/wants/expects them to.

These aren't poor kids that were tricked into transitioning, they are spiteful (wo)manchildren who's sole motivation for anything is being contrarians to spite their parents.
 
Comments on this one are super funny:
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"Very intresting to know that the main reproductive organ could play a part in sexual pleasure."

Yeah truly, wild discovery. Nobody could have seen this coming. What's next? The stomach playing a part in digestion? Nah that's too far gone.


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Everyone tells her she's pretty with long her, so she intentionally makes herself as ugly as possible by cutting it to spite gender roles.

The gender ideology is so deeply engrained in these tools you could convince them wiping after taking a shit is a gender role and they'd go to work with shit in their ass just to spite the patriarchy.

They don't have a personality or a motivation or a will of their own, they just do the opposite of what society tells/wants/expects them to.

These aren't poor kids that were tricked into transitioning, they are spiteful (wo)manchildren who's sole motivation for anything is being contrarians to spite their parents.
holy shit she is the living embodiment of the meme:

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Well honestly they all are (except it's boobs and uteri instead of hair) but this is hilariously on the nose.
 
questions that would probably prevent ill-advised transitions:
  • If you felt you were a perfectly attractive young woman, never felt bad about your body or face, and could get any guy you wanted, would you still want to live as a boy/man?
  • What do you think people wrongly assume about you when they say you're female? What do you think people would rightfully assume about you if you were to say you're male?
  • Do you think you'd be giving anything up that you might miss if you were to live as a man? (goes on to give examples they hadn't even considered, making them realize how little of this hypothetical future they could picture)
  • If you knew everyone would accept you as a boy/man without you changing anything about your body, would you still want to change your body? If you knew no one would ever really accept you as a boy/man despite drastically changing your appearance, would you want to change your appearance anyway? (If no, then they don't really want these changes in themselves; they just want to chase the pipe dream of not being seen as female, and they'll be obsessing over whether they pass and what more they need to do to pass.)
  • If you'd never discovered and never would discover what it meant to be transgender, how do you think you'd feel about being a "girl/woman" a year from now?
  • Which would be worse: continuing to live as a girl/woman uninterrupted, or deciding to transition and then changing your mind?
I fell down the trans Internet rabbit hole as a middle schooler throughout 2013-2014 - what an infohazard to a girl as spergy, outcasted, neurotic, troubled with body image, and precocious in verbal IQ as me. The "trans women are women, in the sense that gender is distinct from sex" to "am I really a girl, then?" to "so much is explained by me not being a girl!" to "so I should transition to be seen as my true self" pipeline is real.

But I'm so, so grateful this was before it was mainstream. I never felt entitled to even a "social transition" in my youth; I figured that was for adulthood, when I would have my own money and freedom and wouldn't need my parents' permission or facilitation. I'd gotten into some tearful arguments with my family over my declared identity, and that unfortunately dragged the phase out longer than it should've been, because I didn't want to prove them right and feel like all that conflict was for nothing. But if they'd actually put me down that path, or even just let me be known as a "boy" at school, it would've been even harder to turn around.

With no outward changes, all it takes to drop it is to think, I don't actually need that. Once you've made the changes, you'll only feel ready to drop it once you realize you've actively made your life worse, once you realize you need to stop.
 
Just the sheer verbosity of this detranser sperging (archive) about some 90s tomboy romcom and anime.

Young Americans is a show that aired in 2000 about the lives of students in a private school. It focuses on a few couples, one of which is a handsome butch girl and a handsome straight guy.

Jake and Hamilton (Kate Moennig and Ian Somerhalder)
The Butch girl named Jake (Jacqueline) disguises herself as male so she can attend an all boys academy. She meets a straight guy named Hamilton who falls in love with Jake, realizing he might be gay.
I highly recommend watching Young Americans first. You can't buy or stream it, but you can watch it on dailymotion. Spoilers ahead.
I love Young Americans because it shows how lovely a masculine female and masculine male couple can be. Kate Moennig plays the part of a butch character so well. She has such an attractive androgynous look, she carries herself in a naturally masculine way, and her voice is deep yet feminine. I'm so happy the character isn't trans because it shows that masculine women can be very comfortable in their body and fall in love with regular, handsome guys.
Ian Somerhalder was a great choice in casting as well. He has the features of a Renaissance sculpture and his acting is a bit stronger. His romantic confessions felt very natural and he played the part of a sweet boyfriend so well. There are elements of homophobia in the show, and I adore how his character put his love for Jake as a person first, before being concerned with her gender. I believe that's why FTMs and fujoshi love gay stories where the dominate male character is straight, but realizes he could fall in love with a guy. They wish more men could look past their masculine traits and still love them despite not fitting into the role of the average woman.
The kisses are so passionate and steamy compared to other straight couple. You can watch some of it on youtube.
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I wonder what Ian was thinking before this kiss because boy there was a lot of tongue
The progression of the intimacy feels so organic. It starts off a little awkward, but the romantic performances become so convincing as the show goes on. I've never seen actors on screen have such strong chemistry. There are so many details like the little kisses and giggles, and they were only in their early 20s when they filmed it. I had to find out if the actors actually got together, and while there's no official confirmation, I read there were rumors of them dating during the show. If you look at the promotional and behind the scenes pictures, they are very comfortable with each other compared to the other actors.
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I'm not sure why they took pictures with each other topless but look how they're smiling

It goes on from there...

There's just something about this one. Really highlights that we are dealing with emotional children here.
 
Goddamn this is depressing. Proves to me that never listen to the voices in your heads, they’re just faggots who want the worst for you. Hopefully there’s some success for these people.
Sadly, a lot of times the "voices in your head" are actually fuckin groomers trying to make you worse for THEIR sake. It's sad and I hope all detrans folks have a better future than they'd otherwise have. A fucking smack addict groomer convinced me I was MTF when I was 15 for a solid 3 years of my life and that was 3 years too many. All it did was make me realize a decent amount of troons have gone through a similar amount of grooming and they deserve far fucking better.
 
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