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Gar For Archer said:
The former is because FB is seen as the boomer social media platform, and is only really popular in the third world, where each user is worth significantly less than comparatively wealthy Western users.
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It's precisely for that reason that such users use it. To First Worlders, $10 a month for some boomer-tier ISP is nothing even to a poor person, but in the Third World, that's pricey, so a lot of them actually use it as a primary way of doing business, and while that is insane and sketchy, it's often the best someone can do.
 
Gar For Archer said:
I wrote this in another thread, but while FB’s actual attempt at the “metaverse” is pants-on-head retarded, the decision to do a full pivot (and, to a lesser extent, the decision to pivot into VR) doesn’t just make sense, but was arguably necessary for Facebook’s long-term survival.

The problem with Facebook is its two biggest avenues - social media and peddling user data - are both in serious trouble. The former is because FB is seen as the boomer social media platform, and is only really popular in the third world, where each user is worth significantly less than comparatively wealthy Western users. The latter is because Apple introduced privacy settings to make data sharing opt-in instead of opt-out, basically halving FB’s mobile user data overnight.

Not changing anything will have FB going the way of Yahoo or MySpace within the next 10 years. Strategically, pivoting to VR isn’t a bad plan, because if executed properly, it ensures their survival and continued relevance, even if they have to downscale from their current operations. Key word if executed properly, because the Metaverse is doing nothing but hastening their demise.
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"pivoting to VR" would be an interesting idea if there was a significant market for VR, but there isn't. it's used by tech enthusiasts for goofing around in experimental video games, and for watching ultra hd porn, that's pretty much it. to this day i don't know what zuck sees in this meme tech but i'd be willing to bet real money that investing your companys future into this technology will turn out to be a massive retard move.
 
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moocow said:
I've always had a soft spot for the film Caddyshack 2
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It's good to meet a fellow gentleman of culture every once in a while. Dan Akroyd basically invented anti-comedy with the role as the hitman (Mrs. Esterhaus), and I loved every second of it.

And as for Meta shit, VR is up there with light rail, 3-D tvs and movies and picture phones as shit that has never, and will never catch on with more than a very niche audience. And to try and re-brand your currently successful company around it is a death knell. Now obviously facebook has inertial wealth, and won't go out of business in any of our lifetimes, but it's also not ever going have anything remotely close to the clout it once had.

Which is somewhat ironic, because all they ever had to do was make their platform better for its users, rather than shittier. But they just couldn't help themselves. If they'd have stayed out of the moderation and information-policing business, and put like 1% of what they spent on that into integrating every new idea that comes along (share pictures like snapchat, share videos like tiktok, we're secure like whatsapp) they'd have been pretty much unbeatable. But cucks are going to cuck every time.

Back on topic-ish, it looks like Musk might be trying to do just that with Twitter - integrating youtube's functionality, without youtube's bullshit on a pre-established and un-cancelable platform would corner the damn market on internet video and murder YT forever. I doubt they'll actually go for it, and will probably fuck it up if they do, but that's still my peak optimism take on this thing. Followed closely by running it into the ground and shutting it all down with no replacement.
 
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AnOminous said:
It's precisely for that reason that such users use it. To First Worlders, $10 a month for some boomer-tier ISP is nothing even to a poor person, but in the Third World, that's pricey, so a lot of them actually use it as a primary way of doing business, and while that is insane and sketchy, it's often the best someone can do.
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Not even the 3rd world. A large number of normal Mom and Pop stores use Facebook pages as their public facing web front. Also most social groups.

The local boyscout troop, local chinese restaurant places like that use Facebook. For all the "its for boomers" memes i see, millenials use it the most. The big problem is Facebook has no growth really anymore. And stock price demands growth. A business that just sits back and makes a solid profit isnt what they want anymore.

VR push made sense, but the implementation was dogshit.
 
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RonPaul2008 said:
no i am repeating my sentiments again.
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I agree with you, but as others have made the point the stocks are lowering simply because of general failures in a market that is finally admitting to it's instability. This has to do with Twitter about as much as the advertiser 'boycott' does, they are simply prepping for recession by cutting spending. Not that they wouldn't benefit because of ESG retardation, but I have a feeling even that isn't going to matter much.
 
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CatgirlTyranid said:
Because we refuse to take an unverified quote at face value anymore? Journalists burned their own credibility because of shit exactly like this. A couple of quotes from a single unnamed source does not instill credibility.

We don't know who said this, whether they have the right to rehire anyone, or if the quote was actually said on Slack. It may be true, but it's not good journalism. I'll trust the word of a random Kiwi over a twitter journalist any day of the week.
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And obviously this did happen as reported, and has now been verified. As is no surprise to anyone.

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Not that it matters much, it’s small beer in the context of the rest of the shit show, but as Musk is finding out in person, a lot of the right wing paranoid fantasies about Twitter and about journalists are exactly that.
 
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Oh wow, now I totally believe the journoscum. They have zero axe to grind here and that couldn't possibly be faked in any way. Its now incontrovertible that Elon is indeed bankrupt and the tranny jannies are indispensable in society, better schedule my kid for the nuts chop and pink hair dye session.

Dude you're on a site specifically designed and maintained for laughing at exceptional people. This whole thing is stirring up said exceptional people to 2016 general election heights. Sit back and enjoy the milk rater than sneeding that the person stirring the shit isn't going to come out of it all smelling very good.
 
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moocow said:
Yeah, that Data-looking freak is astonishingly stupid. People like to shit on Musk for being "obviously" dumb and making bad investments and doing silly things, but good god Zuck has practically invented new kinds of stupidity the world's never seen before.
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That's what really pisses me off about these tech billionaires: They're all dumb cunts, but they have more money than god. Well I'm stupid too. Where's my bloody fortune?
 
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Your Starter for 10 said:
Which is somewhat ironic, because all they ever had to do was make their platform better for its users, rather than shittier. But they just couldn't help themselves.
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This is a big one right here. And it's not just adding useless shit nobody wants, adding a never-ending stream of ads, trackers and other horseshit, or even the censorship shit they've embraced so enthusiastically.

The user experience is just fucking awful. Loading a page on Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn or Nextdoor (the one I've been begrudgingly using lately) takes well over 5 seconds. On an 8-core Ryzen 7 w/64GB of RAM, on a gigabit cable modem connection. With ad blockers preventing unnecessary elements even loading. That's fucking insane. This machine is bloody fast but these sites still crawl on it. These companies are worth billions and they can't make their sites load any faster?

At my company, everyone on the tech side is absolutely autistic about performance. The backend boys won't push an update to production if it adds even 1ms of average latency to an average page load. Either it gets fixed or the feature is rolled back. The frontend team does the same. Our pages (static and dynamic) load and are painted and ready for user interaction within 1.2 seconds on average. I've got multiple alerts set up to check performance every 15 seconds and spam devops by email and SMS 24/7 if just two consecutive health checks fail to complete (with a success result) in under 2 seconds. It's only gone off once since I put that in place last year and that was because AWS had a fat multi-zone outage.

We are absolutely not a big company and have nowhere near the kind of resources (financially or technologically) the Facebooks and Googles and Youtubes of the world have, and while we're very proud of how fast our stuff is, we're equally appalled by the fact that somehow companies thousands of times bigger than us can't seem to do the same thing. How is it so fucking hard for Twitter or Facebook to ship and render a web page with just two columns of nearly all-text content in under 2 seconds?
 
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moocow said:
We are absolutely not a big company and have nowhere near the kind of resources (financially or technologically) the Facebooks and Googles and Youtubes of the world have, and while we're very proud of how fast our stuff is, we're equally appalled by the fact that somehow companies thousands of times bigger than us can't seem to do the same thing. How is it so fucking hard for Twitter or Facebook to ship and render a web page with just two columns of nearly all-text content in under 2 seconds?
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On top of that, every boomer I know who uses Facebook gets at least one piece of blatant malware at least once a month. How hard is it not to deliver browser hijacks and other shit to customers?
 
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AnOminous said:
On top of that, every boomer I know who uses Facebook gets at least one piece of blatant malware at least once a month. How hard is it not to deliver browser hijacks and other shit to customers?
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Very hard when engineering is continually shat upon by the Gods of Marketing, because ads pay the bills.

Compare a modern site with ads to any site where the customers pay for it (or even a shithole like this forum, lol) - and it's really easy to see who wins.
 
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Gar For Archer said:
I wrote this in another thread, but while FB’s actual attempt at the “metaverse” is pants-on-head retarded, the decision to do a full pivot (and, to a lesser extent, the decision to pivot into VR) doesn’t just make sense, but was arguably necessary for Facebook’s long-term survival.

The problem with Facebook is its two biggest avenues - social media and peddling user data - are both in serious trouble. The former is because FB is seen as the boomer social media platform, and is only really popular in the third world, where each user is worth significantly less than comparatively wealthy Western users. The latter is because Apple introduced privacy settings to make data sharing opt-in instead of opt-out, basically halving FB’s mobile user data overnight.

Not changing anything will have FB going the way of Yahoo or MySpace within the next 10 years. Strategically, pivoting to VR isn’t a bad plan, because if executed properly, it ensures their survival and continued relevance, even if they have to downscale from their current operations. Key word if executed properly, because the Metaverse is doing nothing but hastening their demise.
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Apple is getting in the AR/VR game soon and if they can’t get it right Facebook sure as hell won’t.
 
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