Come on, you think the current artists are familiar at all with the pulp fantasy novel covers and metal album covers that inspired the old artists, including Metzen and Samwise? It's part of a bigger trend of artists/writers/other creative types now having no inspiration than modern corporate slop, but it's obvious here that the current artists just consoom Disney movies and furry art. Plus I think there's an image floating around showing that one of the main dracthyr designers is a literal twitter furry artist, but I'm not sure if it's real or not. Wouldn't be surprised if it is though.
No, Upper Deck assfucked itself by counterfeiting YuGiOh cards of all things. There's probably some actual reporting from that time which could explain why they were counterfeiting a property they already had a license to distribute. It's probably insane and hilarious. When Konami found out, Upper Deck lost a bunch of properties. Sports cards, collectable card games, everything. The Warcraft card game ended up with Cryptozoic Entertainment until HearthStone happened.
No, Upper Deck assfucked itself by counterfeiting YuGiOh cards of all things. There's probably some actual reporting from that time which could explain why they were counterfeiting a property they already had a license to distribute. It's probably insane and hilarious. When Konami found out, Upper Deck lost a bunch of properties. Sports cards, collectable card games, everything. The Warcraft card game ended up with Cryptozoic Entertainment until HearthStone happened.
they where counterfeiting to sell a KO in card shops that konami got no cut of, with cards in it which ranged from mildly to highly desirable cards for the time. Konami lost its first lawsuit over this, but eventually won the second and thats that.
Come on, you think the current artists are familiar at all with the pulp fantasy novel covers and metal album covers that inspired the old artists, including Metzen and Samwise?
No, but generally big companies like that tend to have things like Brand Guidelines that they have to adhere to. I get that there's a lot of creative latitude to do things, but it feels like shit has really drifted.
I recall seeing interviews with artists who were involved with Heroes of the Storm and talking about how they had to sort of mash different art styles together from Diablo / Warcraft / Starcraft / Overwatch together. They used to care about little details that no one aside from autistic shits like myself would give a damn about. That's sorta what Samwise's role is/was.
It's just funny how at every level this game is turning into a steaming turd.
No, Upper Deck assfucked itself by counterfeiting YuGiOh cards of all things. There's probably some actual reporting from that time which could explain why they were counterfeiting a property they already had a license to distribute. It's probably insane and hilarious. When Konami found out, Upper Deck lost a bunch of properties. Sports cards, collectable card games, everything. The Warcraft card game ended up with Cryptozoic Entertainment until HearthStone happened.
they where counterfeiting to sell a KO in card shops that konami got no cut of, with cards in it which ranged from mildly to highly desirable cards for the time. Konami lost its first lawsuit over this, but eventually won the second and thats that.
The story I heard from someone who worked at Upper Deck in game design, I think they actually worked on the WoW TCG, was that Upper Deck was insanely corrupt and what happened was they had a customer who bought a bunch of product and couldn't sell it, so the guy was upset and threatening to never order again, he was a larger account in the hundreds of thousands range but not so large that it would be exceptionally meaningful.
They decided to take the product back and then wanted to do a repack of it so that they could sell it, you know those blister packs you see in Walmarts and Targets (I don't think they actually have a license to sell the product, so what they sell is stuff distributors get stuck with and just breakdown and repack these days). The problem was that they didn't have enough to sell to a big box store but no one would talk the product because it was a trash set, and so they figured they could make it move by putting a good promo in the front of two shitty booster packs. Not having any actual promos to include, they decided to go to China and get really shitty rip offs of a card and put it in the bundle. Konami found out and they basically lost all of their licenses including the WoW TCG one, because I think it was the owner who made the call and not some middle management idiot.
They basically fucked themselves for something like ten thousand dollars of dead product. They could have probably found a way to move the product eventually in a legal way, it wasn't like they were broke at the time.
Looking into it, the first lawsuit was against a random store, that said they weren't liable because they bought all their product legally and directly from Upper Deck. Konami sued Upper Deck and in 2009 Konami told Upper Deck to stop distributing product, but Upper Deck just said fuck it and they'd continue to do it until 2010 when the court concluded Upper Deck did in fact counterfeit shit and was forced to stop distribution of Yugioh.
In 2010, a couple months after the lawsuit concluded, Blizzard also pulled the license from Upper Deck and moved it to Cryptozoic which produced WoW TCG up until 2013 when it was discontinued.
From what I remember Upper Deck only distributed product for Konami and Yugioh so they didn't have much work in the way of making the game, while with WoW TCG they did design work and more.
The story I heard from someone who worked at Upper Deck in game design, I think they actually worked on the WoW TCG, was that Upper Deck was insanely corrupt and what happened was they had a customer who bought a bunch of product and couldn't sell it, so the guy was upset and threatening to never order again, he was a larger account in the hundreds of thousands range but not so large that it would be exceptionally meaningful.
They decided to take the product back and then wanted to do a repack of it so that they could sell it, you know those blister packs you see in Walmarts and Targets (I don't think they actually have a license to sell the product, so what they sell is stuff distributors get stuck with and just breakdown and repack these days). The problem was that they didn't have enough to sell to a big box store but no one would talk the product because it was a trash set, and so they figured they could make it move by putting a good promo in the front of two shitty booster packs. Not having any actual promos to include, they decided to go to China and get really shitty rip offs of a card and put it in the bundle. Konami found out and they basically lost all of their licenses including the WoW TCG one, because I think it was the owner who made the call and not some middle management idiot.
They basically fucked themselves for something like ten thousand dollars of dead product. They could have probably found a way to move the product eventually in a legal way, it wasn't like they were broke at the time.
This seems like one of those situations that would have easily been solved if they had contacted any of their clients and inquired if they were willing to make a promotional deal rather than immediately electing to use chinese counterfeits
This seems like one of those situations that would have easily been solved if they had contacted any of their clients and inquired if they were willing to make a promotional deal rather than immediately electing to use chinese counterfeits
There were countless ways to solve it, they just chose the most retarded one. Though distributors aren't known for their logic, as I remember a few years ago one got busted for dumping product under market cost on eBay using a fake account, so you'd see boxes of MtG for 60-70$ in bulk quantities when stores pay more than that per box from distribution. Though amusingly enough WotC now just does that directly via Amazon.
That dumb WarcraftStories gimmick really highlighted to me how an old alt you recently pick back up can look like it belongs to a brand new account...I know it is extremely petty but it really bugs me sometimes. It goes past the hashtag promo: my account was made in 2008 and I have almost 150,000 lifetime HKs, but if you check my current main's profile on the site it says ~4800. My in-game honor level is only 50 something because I quit before Warlords of Draenor and Legion (where the prestige system was introduced and evolved to the current honor system) so unless you specifically look for my legacy/account wide achievements it looks like a newer account. Feels like a penalty for taking a break tbh.
I think the achievement system needs to be presented account-wide first, then you have to dig for the character specifics. So basically the opposite of what it is. For players who have many alts this would do a lot to make them feel more like their individual character achievements mattered.
That dumb WarcraftStories gimmick really highlighted to me how an old alt you recently pick back up can look like it belongs to a brand new account...I know it is extremely petty but it really bugs me sometimes. It goes past the hashtag promo: my account was made in 2008 and I have almost 150,000 lifetime HKs, but if you check my current main's profile on the site it says ~4800. My in-game honor level is only 50 something because I quit before Warlords of Draenor and Legion (where the prestige system was introduced and evolved to the current honor system) so unless you specifically look for my legacy/account wide achievements it looks like a newer account. Feels like a penalty for taking a break tbh.
I think the achievement system needs to be presented account-wide first, then you have to dig for the character specifics. So basically the opposite of what it is. For players who have many alts this would do a lot to make them feel more like their individual character achievements mattered.
The achivement system is unmistakably complete dogshit.
Some achievements are account wide, some are character specific, and some are account-wide but have to be achieved on a single character. Back when I gave a shit about WoW - the concept of "You have ~950 wins of Arathi Basin on your account, but you do not have the 'Win 100 matches in Arathi Basin' achievement because you play alts" was shockingly bad and I still to this day have no idea why they do it this way.
The achivement system is unmistakably complete dogshit.
Some achievements are account wide, some are character specific, and some are account-wide but have to be achieved on a single character. Back when I gave a shit about WoW - the concept of "You have ~950 wins of Arathi Basin on your account, but you do not have the 'Win 100 matches in Arathi Basin' achievement because you play alts" was shockingly bad and I still to this day have no idea why they do it this way.
I think it's a function of how the system was initially designed and how Blizzard failed to adapt it to what the game became.
Initially, achievements were there to show the progression of your character. This could be somewhat meaningful, like showing that you could play that class at a high enough level to complete heroic raids or compete in rated PVP. But over time, the philosophy of "bring the player, not the class" guided design decisions to make class choice less important. If you were competent at one class, you'd probably do about as well with another. Thus, they changed it so you could see all achievements made on the same account, though each individual character would still see the achievement toast if they fulfilled the requirements too. (Apparently there was always a desire to do things this way, but it took them two whole expansions to make it work.)
The issue, of course, is that Blizzard half-assed it as they always do. As you mentioned, many achievements that should track progress from any character instead track each one's individual progress, so if you swap alts frequently, you might never finish that achievement. The sorting is annoying, putting achievements you've completed on alts at the bottom but not making it very clear that the character you're on hasn't done it, which can be important if there is a reward attached. And the redundant achievement pop-ups don't really do much for me when it's stuff I've already seen. They should just transfer everything to a complete account achievement system and remove the jank, but that's just too much effort.
I think it's a function of how the system was initially designed and how Blizzard failed to adapt it to what the game became.
Initially, achievements were there to show the progression of your character. This could be somewhat meaningful, like showing that you could play that class at a high enough level to complete heroic raids or compete in rated PVP. But over time, the philosophy of "bring the player, not the class" guided design decisions to make class choice less important. If you were competent at one class, you'd probably do about as well with another. Thus, they changed it so you could see all achievements made on the same account, though each individual character would still see the achievement toast if they fulfilled the requirements too. (Apparently there was always a desire to do things this way, but it took them two whole expansions to make it work.)
The issue, of course, is that Blizzard half-assed it as they always do. As you mentioned, many achievements that should track progress from any character instead track each one's individual progress, so if you swap alts frequently, you might never finish that achievement. The sorting is annoying, putting achievements you've completed on alts at the bottom but not making it very clear that the character you're on hasn't done it, which can be important if there is a reward attached. And the redundant achievement pop-ups don't really do much for me when it's stuff I've already seen. They should just transfer everything to a complete account achievement system and remove the jank, but that's just too much effort.
It's worse than that, honestly. I'd love to say it's half assed - but some of achievements work very well as "account level" achivements (Honorable Kills comes to mind, it tracks all HKs from all characters).
So they could make the achievement system better - the tech is already developed and implemented. They just don't because even the bare minimum of effort is too much.
It's worse than that, honestly. I'd love to say it's half assed - but some of achievements work very well as "account level" achivements (Honorable Kills comes to mind, it tracks all HKs from all characters).
So they could make the achievement system better - the tech is already developed and implemented. They just don't because even the bare minimum of effort is too much.
achievements are only half of it, the fact that you have (had?) to regear every char from scratch was fucking retarded, there is absolutely nothing making everything BOA, especially when drops were rare and random as fuck anyway.
not even sure it is now, imagine not having deterministic loottables in fucking 2022...
Rolled a High Elf warrior in Twow private server a while ago, and achieved my personal goal that I have had since I was like, 13 when WoW classic hit the stores: I once saw a dude with Brain Hacker, a 2h 2.10 speed axe, and I thought it was really badass. Looked cool. And prior to patch like 1.6, before new Bloodthirst and rage normalization it was an extremely good axe for a Fury Warrior. After the patch it wasn't that great, but I still wanted it. But TBC hit the stores before I got to level 60, and no one bothered to sell old world epics anymore that are superseded by first Outland greens.
But I hit 60 a while ago, and just copped it an hour ago from AH for 50 gold for my Fury warr. Now, at 30 years old I finally have it. Took a while, but I finally got it.
I would post an in-game screencap but Twow is run by bunch of libs and would probably ban me for having Kiwi account. I wistfully think of the days of Nostalrius when Barrens chat was making fun of Trayvon Martin and the long-nose tribe, and the server had open neo-Nazi guilds like <Einsatzgruppe> and <The Final Solution>. Whatever, I can sperg about niggers and jews in /pol/ and the Farms. Now I'm just content.
I would post an in-game screencap but Twow is run by bunch of libs and would probably ban me for having Kiwi account. I wistfully think of the days of Nostalrius when Barrens chat was making fun of Trayvon Martin and the long-nose tribe, and the server had open neo-Nazi guilds like <Einsatzgruppe> and <The Final Solution>. Whatever, I can sperg about niggers and jews in /pol/ and the Farms. Now I'm just content.
Congrats on your axe, grinding for an item you want in WoW is a bitch but worth.
Yeah, private servers are really weird and hypocritical. Months ago, I played WoW Ascension, I loved the idea of making my own class and just taking it easy, going through the content in my own pace without Blizzard trying to force me to do the BfA shit;
The chat there was wild, it reminded me of the Barrens chat, there was constant shitposting, trying to spell out racial slurs, making jokes about long nosed tribes and all that; However as soon as you make a joke at the expense of troons, it's all over.
I remember particulary one incident around the time when Chromie's new story came out, where they established her as a troon (Thanks Danuser), and people being annoyed with that, making jokes about it
until, bunch of troons and their handmaiden posse came in the chat, threating everybody that they're gonna report the chat logs to devs and I even seenn one of them post screenshots of the chat logs on the discord server for the WoW Ascension telling the devs/mods "to do something about it". One of the interactions in the chat I particulary remember was one of troons or their handmaidens saying shit like "We need to redefine what a woman is" which to that I bluntly responded "A human female that was born with womb, ovaries and a female genitelia " which to that the person responded with "So you fucking think women are that? What about women that have no ovaries because of cancer or werent born with it? Fuck you , you are a horrible person." (which lmao weird cope but okay)
I wish I can find a private WoW server, that doesn't favour the feelings of autogynephiles over the playerbase that just wants to relive some memories or want to play WoW without being forced to support Blizzard.
Edit: I also wanted to make a comment about those screenshots with the scalie identifying as a talon, gay centaurs and frogs. (Which I'm late and gay to, but)
Holy shit. People are genuinely getting paid for writing shit likethat ?
Congrats on your axe, grinding for an item you want in WoW is a bitch but worth.
Yeah, private servers are really weird and hypocritical. Months ago, I played WoW Ascension, I loved the idea of making my own class and just taking it easy, going through the content in my own pace without Blizzard trying to force me to do the BfA shit;
The chat there was wild, it reminded me of the Barrens chat, there was constant shitposting, trying to spell out racial slurs, making jokes about long nosed tribes and all that; However as soon as you make a joke at the expense of troons, it's all over.
I remember particulary one incident around the time when Chromie's new story came out, where they established her as a troon (Thanks Danuser), and people being annoyed with that, making jokes about it
until, bunch of troons and their handmaiden posse came in the chat, threating everybody that they're gonna report the chat logs to devs and I even seenn one of them post screenshots of the chat logs on the discord server for the WoW Ascension telling the devs/mods "to do something about it". One of the interactions in the chat I particulary remember was one of troons or their handmaidens saying shit like "We need to redefine what a woman is" which to that I bluntly responded "A human female that was born with womb, ovaries and a female genitelia " which to that the person responded with "So you fucking think women are that? What about women that have no ovaries because of cancer or werent born with it? Fuck you , you are a horrible person." (which lmao weird cope but okay)
I wish I can find a private WoW server, that doesn't favour the feelings of autogynephiles over the playerbase that just wants to relive some memories or want to play WoW without being forced to support Blizzard.
Edit: I also wanted to make a comment about those screenshots with the scalie identifying as a talon, gay centaurs and frogs. (Which I'm late and gay to, but)
Holy shit. People are genuinely getting paid for writing shit likethat ?
I think anyone who's had experiences with troons, especially if one of their friends troons out, knows just how joyless and humorless those fucks can be. I've seen it happen personally with a (thankfully online-only) friend of mine, where a single "lol trannies" comment will have him flailing at you and yelling to shut the fuck up. I guess that's what happens when you go down that brokebrain route, you lose your sense of humor and ability to take a fucking joke.
Unfortunately, it takes a fair amount of autism to set up and manage a private server, even if it's easier nowadays. And even if the owner has their head on straight, it also takes autism to be a jannie. And we all know how much overlap there is between autists and troons. It only takes one to ruin the whole fucking server.
cool, genshin has done that since it's first anniversary, for everyone, with way more effort
iirc was pretty well received and successful, not just because of it's name.
rumor has it they nuked it when hearthstone came out because bigger cut, but never looked up how feasible that theory is.
Why do woke writers always write everything so expository or emotionally manipulating?
Normal Writer:
"So how did a poor sap like you end up in such a peculiar chair?"
*chuckles* "Long story, the creche happened and lost my leg and wing in the process. Ain't all bad, however, gives me plenty of time to tinker and engineer titan parts for my clan. Never really was one for fighting anyhow."
Woke Writer:
"Wow, nice wheelchair! How did you end up in that?"
"The creche happened and <he sighs glancing at his injured wing and leg> I lost my leg and wing in the process. I thought it would I would be useless to my clan. That I would be a detriment to my people, but I found out it made me stronger because now I can provide my clan with engineering and tinkering!"
They have started a new thing where is you tweet them your character name server region with @warcraft #warcraftstory it will read your stats and make a "story" about your character. View attachment 3795024
Raid Shadow Legends has a similar thing, but theirs is a personalized video you can get just by logging in and clicking the thing, it also has way more stats and info.
It's amazing how shitty free mobile games are running circles around Blizzard lately.
I wish I can find a private WoW server, that doesn't favour the feelings of autogynephiles over the playerbase that just wants to relive some memories or want to play WoW without being forced to support Blizzard.
I just accept at this point that there's never going to be an oasis that isn't immediately tainted. There was a brief little window where Nostalrius and the come-afters were pretty chill, but essentially since the release of classic-proper, the old game seems to collect a bunch of fucking weirdos who take it way too seriously, both as a product and as a pserver -- and weirdos who take shit way too seriously always means there's a wellspring of dainty dress-wearing gorillas in need of yet another hugbox.
Whatever, I can sperg about niggers and jews in /pol/ and the Farms. Now I'm just content.
