-A bit of a rant ahead. Okay, a lot of a rant...but not too bad.-
I'll say this...
MGTOWS.... are friggin weird.
I have absolutely no problem with them 'going their way'. I am a bit of a loner, so I understand.
But that being said...it's bad for me because they treat women with brazen disrespect and can be the biggest male-cunts ever... but they feel you should respect them in turn and frankly shut the fuck up. Simply cuz 'ballz'.
I have never met, talked to or knew of people so eager to be so miserable and borderline psychotic. They say they are 'free', but they sound like the most in bondage of their own hatred of themselves, women and above all 'the system'. The media blames the 'loominaughty'. Racists blame 'Jews', 'blacks' and 'the white man'. MGTOW blames 'bitches'. Or just 'women'. To them, there is no such thing as a 'good' woman... and to the most extreme ones, the only 'good' one is a dead one.
I would presume they should practice what they preach and start with their own mothers. After all... many seem to have mother issues. (Raised by single mothers). If that's the case, unless your mother was the mom from hell, why not attack the one who chose not to involve himself in your life? There are many fathers out there who still spend time with their children from a past marriage. You divorce your spouse, not your children. And if the courts deemed you unfit to get close to the wife or the child... more than likely, there is a pretty damn good reason.
Of all extremist groups I have come across, they have to be one of the worst. And I've had to listen to a room full of SJW and radical feminists shriek and talk at the same time. Even they pale in comparison to the more rabid MGTOWS out there.
The funniest ones are of high school age who are pumped with hormones. Haven't paid a bill, a car/house payment, gone to court, paid child support or gotten a divorce in their lives. But are simply upset at all the young vagina they desire, but are not getting. In fact, I dare say they hate the boys getting laid more than they hate the rejecting girls. Many of these boys are self-proclaimed 'nice guys'. I've dealt with them in high school. I loved school, was into art and music and got good grades. But wasn't really into boys back then. I learned very quickly when a certain brand of boy said 'study' buddy, they really meant 'make-out' buddy. And I was confused, I was pretty butch then, wore skinny jeans and band-tees and didn't wear lipstick.
I was raised to and treat all genders, races, nationalities and people in general with kindness. I have a thing with giving everyone the benefit of the doubt because I'd like to believe the majority of others are good or halfway decent people. I have been taken advantage because of this a few times and even called 'dumb' because of it. By the time I was 20, I was able to spot these characters and get away from them, but still treat them with a cordial amount of respect. Even if I thought they were the biggest slimes in the world. But I refuse to treat people with disrespect and loathing... yet still expect respect. It shouldn't work that way and it doesn't.
So here are my reasons why I find MGTOWS, well... a bit off:
Reason #1: I'm supposed to 'take it' and their lunacy, but any reasonable response is a 'shaming tactic'. No it's not. You acting like a psychotic douchbag escaped from the ward still makes you a psychotic douchbag. You vowing to kill and dis-empower and rape women or anybody doesn't go unchecked in the sane world. You are not being 'shamed' or 'silenced' you are being called out. This should go for anyone. I find it funny how they put these crazy, raving women as thumbnails on their videos, but they are acting as crazy as the woman in the thumbnail is. If they are trying to hint that all women are crazy nuts and they, the poor, gentle, noble MGTOWS are the perfectly, untouchable logical cherubs... then they missed the ball. And they missed it big. I also like how they put 'scared' and 'frightened' women's stock photos all over the place. That is just wishful thinking. It is their desired outcome. Control and scared women.
And when they find women for the most part, just treat them with indifference, avoid or ignore them... or laugh at them, they start to whine. Wishing to grow in number so they'll have the last laugh.
Figures.
And it's not just these folks. It seems ever since the internet has released many ways to 'spot' a psychopath or a sociopath, they seem to have found it's hard to 'blend in'. In that respect, they seem to be forming their own 'communities' as a 'safe space' so they don't have to deal with the typical responses from normal people... er I mean the pesky shaming tactics. I have run into people saying that 80% of the men in prison for rape are 'innocent'. That being said most of the men pulling these percentages out of their butts are felons or have done hard time themselves. Speaking of prison, I am not a druggie, but I seriously believe that if the 'war on drugs' ended and every drug was made perfectly legal... many prisons would be near empty. Let people kill themselves if they like... they're going to find a way anyhow... laws or not.
Reason #2: To them, 'Logic' is strictly a male trait. I am a very logical person and most people have agreed... but in their case, as a female I am simply 'mirroring'. They claim they can 'destroy' me with their 'logicz', but when I get out in public and they try to pick at me while I'm minding my own business, I don't even have to say much. Their words damn them. When I do have to 'debate' with these weirdos, it's clear when I am making much more sense than they are, they just resort to yelling. And the louder they get, the more of a freakshow they become. Remember, females get 'emotional', but males get 'passionate'.
Their favorite defense is 'the divorce rate'. Pray tell... what does this divorce rate have to do with the fact you stopped me and sparked a conversation with me over my female-symbol t-shirt? I thought us women gave you cooties. Why did you take your time to talk to me? If what I have to say doesn't matter, why do you quote me, follow me and hover over my opinions?

At least I can somewhat admire the ones who brag about 'ignoring the rated ''8'' cashier' at Starbucks on redpill.com.
It's fine you don't want to get married and it's fine you want to convince others not to marry. But don't come up to married couples, shove the wife aside and ask the bloke what he thinks of MGTOW while treating the wife like she's not there or filming her 'cunty' reaction. If the roles were reversed and some man or woman came up to the wife, shoved the husband aside, stuck a microphone in her face and asked her what she thought of his/her 'enlightened' movement about scumbag husbands I can guarantee there would be a fight or a push and shove match.
Reason #3: They go on and on about ignoring women... that's fine by me.
But when I'm trying to tell you ''this may not be a good idea', or your car is being stolen or something's poisonous or your house is on fire, or 'this may be a scam' or 'did you get the memo, don't do that''...don't get upset at me that shit hits the fan because you don't even want to look me in the eyes like I'm some kind of demon going to suck out your soul. I've had this happen before. And suddenly, I'm a 'cunt' for not telling/warning them. I did. You just didn't listen.
And Reason #4: ANYTHING with a female on it or anything involving a female...they feel obliged to bash it into the ground. Female singer, actress, artist, comedian, youtuber, gym member, musician, teacher, hair-dresser, chef, model, news anchor. Politicians are their favorite. Their other favorite targets are famous women. They give no fucks. You WILL be rated on your 'fuckability', your weight, how short your hair is, what color you dyed it, if your lips are red or if you wear glasses. You can almost hear them salivating at the thought of all women 'hitting the wall'. Which now is age 24. :/ I am 26... so... woe is me? I am not a vain person nor I am the best looking at all. And that's okay. I would rather be known for my contributions to society, my talents and what good I can do for others. (Gasp, but as a female, there is nothing I can ever ope to contribute outside of my 'natural use') =.=
As far as 'the wall' goes. We have not found the fountain of youth yet. We all get old, but they act like it's the 'crippling' end-all or all women. Like we just lay down, shrivel up and die. Like how we look is all we are worth and absolutely nothing else. No. At age 24, you are still learning about the world and who you are.
On a side note, I have met many 40+ women and men that I would certainly look at twice and even ask out were I not married or busy.
And if men aged like 'fine wine', why do I have to hear countless 18-20's girls cry about how disgusted they are with the 50-60+ 'fine wine' men hitting on them from their convertibles? These men think having a wad of cash, a shiny tin can on wheels and a sharp modern zoot suit will solve their own aging 'issues'. But when that doesn't work, it's 'the bitches' fault.
No amount of money, swag, style and hot wheels can make up for a mucky, hateful, faux-nice, ugly personality. And you are not as young as you used to be. So you take pride in saying you know you don't have the looks or the personality, but at least you have 'stuff'. Good for you.
One old guy was enraged and getting bitter at even the younger women because when he hit on them, in all his nice car and green-stacks glory, the young women fled from him. 18-20 year old women were his 'last hope' as he felt they were 'untainted'. The final straw was when a 19 year old called him a pedophile. He then proceeded to call all young women who 'spurned' him 'brainwashed' by feminism. No, my friend. That is the general norm of people preferring to date within a reasonable bracket of their age group. Throwing money at any self respecting lady and expecting the 'poon' is insulting and you are a fool to believe they don't see it. In my personal opinion, if you have the money.. that's what prostitutes and call girls are for. But if you wake up one morning with an incurable, mysterious rash... or you find magical holes in your condom...well... ... bummer. I am not saying anyone really deserves an STD or being chained with a kid you didn't want for 18 years... but considering how some people treat others... you have to wonder. Did they get their cummupins? Like attracts like after all.
Reason #4 (cont): Now you rag on my gender...when I certainly don't rag on the male gender. I may rag on some men because they are complete f-wads. And most men would agree that that particular man is a piece of crap. But are all men f-wads? You'd have to be insane to believe that. And vice versa.
But here they are. Wanting all women to bow their shameful heads and fully admit they are the bane of all existence and that they deserve this treatment and that they are 'slaves' and mindless' by design.
That we are all little 'Eves' out to 'destroy them', so they must destroy us first. Then they get upset when we don't bow our heads and 'repent'. And by 'repent', I mean bend over.
No. I'm afraid you have lost one too many of your marbles with those expectations. My 'good' sirs.
And you expect me NOT to take offense and 'just be quiet about it' because it's not my business. When you're taking pics of us women in public and posting them on on your site walls to be given the almighty 'fuckability 1-10 rating along with 'stupid cunts' and 'dumb hoe' letdowns, of course it's my business.
With people like this, there is no such thing as a 'good woman'. All of us are soul-eating hydras/sirens and they all are blameless angels. Even if a woman agrees with what they have to say, she is still an 'ahem' AWALT. And no... AMALT does not ''exist''. Even if you are a 'gem' or a 'unicorn' girl you WILL turn bad eventually and the 'halo effect' will wither. It's only a matter of time. All women are loaded guns and are out to get your child support.
I don't want children but my husband does greatly. I said when my business has reached its peak I will leave it in the hands of hired help and overseer it from home to raise the kid proper. We've been married 5 years. In 5 more years, we will plan the pregnancy. I am not for or against having kids. I actually like kids. I am just for now, indifferent to it.
Even if I did get divorced, what could I even take of his? His prized fish farm, a watch. His video games and computer? his clothes his three pairs of shoes, a football blanket, a couch... a tool set? His pool table? I would leave with what I came with. But house is in my name. If he had nowhere to go, unless he became a serial killer, I'd have no problem with him being a roommate paying rent or something. But the thought of leaving him saddens me, so I'll stop talking about it. :<
No reason to divorce. He is my best friend and he said I'm his best friend. Lord, what a sad thought of leaving.
When you run into people with such blatant, nauseating one-sided-ness and such crippling bias...one should tend to ignore them. But they want so badly to become this 'phenomenon', that it's not about 'going their own way'. It's all about attention getting and wanting to spread and wanting to offend and shock people with their 'edge'. They may hold women in utter contempt, but they don't treat men who disagree with them any better. They go out of their way to be the worst human beings they can while saying they strive for loyalty, virtue and 'bettering' themselves.
Since the dawn of time, there have been men who have wanted nothing to do with women. Even hated them beyond all reason, sometimes for no reason. That's cool. But MGTOW thinks so highly of itself like it's the first hivemind of its kind to ever exist. It isn't. It's the oldest hat in the closet. The only difference is that this particular generation just figured out they had internet connection. Its hubris is showing. And it's really the only big thing about them.
PS.: The worst thing of all. They RUINED The Matrix for me and other people. Now every time I look at this movie I have to think of these assholes. If I were the creator of the Matrix, I'd be very embarrassed. :v