Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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You people are acting like the idea of sending prisoners to war in exchange for a reduced or suspended sentence is anything new. If anything...why wouldn't you send prisoners to war? It's a large, criminal, non-productive cross-section of the population that is usually young, un-educated and at reasonable health (Bare minimum they won't be fat from gorging on KFC). Not only does Ukraine have penal battalions but the US has actively recruited criminals and prisoners through waivers or plea-deals every time they've had a major conflict or deployment.

As for using Liveuamap specifically. I wouldn't trust them as the thing they do is aggregate claims, they don't even check the validity or hell even correct themselves once something is proven wrong.
The United States military has closed enlistment as an alternative to criminal sentencing for many years now, since Vietnam if I'm not mistaken. In fact when you hear local judges offer to dismiss a criminal case if the defendant enlists, the US will bar enlistment if they get notified of the circumstances.
 
We've already had 8 months of Russians and their Chechen pets act like total niggers in occupied zones. The Russian military is the same vile animal it was in WW2. Don't expect many tears for the invaders, especially after you gleefully posted one of the countless examples of Russians chimping out and vandalizing people's homes.
Stealing tchothkes = lynching prisoners lmao

Are you sure you don't work for the The State Department with that logic?
 
Meanwhile on the European gas market:
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Gas prices are steadily declining, week by week thanks to high gas storage, mild weather and steady supply from outside of russia.

What happend bros, Gayropa was supposed to freeze without gazprom? :thinking:
Its the Taylor Lorenz mindset.

"I am allowed to do whatever I like to you and any harm it causes you is hilarious and justified and stunning and brave and shows how badass I am, but you have to treat me like a perfect little princess and not fight back in any way, shape, or form, or else you are a vile and disgusting and cowardly and depraved monster who threatens the very fabric of society"

Amazing how such a wide range of speds with such ostensibly divergent personas and ideals all display the exact same cancerous behavior
It's also the narcissist thinking pattern.
 
So you send somebody, who's already criminal and teach him to kill and show all atrocities of war. I bet that he won't return to be hardened criminal who will cause even more troubles for society.

Also, what right russia has to send Zambian prisoners without consent of Zambian goverment?
I know right? Isn't the US and Ukraine just terrible? All they're doing is forging their existing criminals into better more ruthless criminals!

Why would the Zambian government be at all involved? They broke a law in Russia, went through the Russia judiciary system and they accepted a plea/deal with the Russian authorities as an individual.
 
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I know right? Isn't the US and Ukraine just terrible? All they're doing is forging their existing criminals into better more ruthless criminals!

Why would the Zambian government be at all involved? They broke a law in Russia, went through the Russia judiciary system and they accepted a plea/deal with the Russian authorities as an individual.
  1. US hasn't send prisoners to war since at least Vietnam.
  2. Freeing prisores for light offenses during period when whole existence of country is under risk is different than freeing killers and sending them to Wagner Group during offensive war.
  3. Also, you are nigger.
Maybe because they are still Zambian citiznes? Idk, right constitution somethin. :thinking:
 
I didn't know the definition of lynching was zip tie-ing someone to a pole to restrain them. Another lynching of negros unearthed by the Russian media no doubt.
It was confirmed that most of the people "zip-tied" were mostly gypsies who got zip-tied for being Gypsies (justified if you ask me) and the rest were either migrants with no real connection to Russia or people zip-tied under false pretenses because their neighbors didn't like them. People that were really traiters were usually just executed by the SBU or local Militias.

It's also worth mentioning that the zip-tying was usually accompanied by stripping the people to a degree or another and openly encouraging their beating in public. I understand most of you people have the memory of a gold-fish so i don't expect you to remember something discussed way back in the first or early second thread.
The United States military has closed enlistment as an alternative to criminal sentencing for many years now, since Vietnam if I'm not mistaken. In fact when you hear local judges offer to dismiss a criminal case if the defendant enlists, the US will bar enlistment if they get notified of the circumstances.
That is incorrect. While currently there is a bar on people with any criminal record (significant or otherwise) from joining whenever the US has started a campaign this has been one of the first requirements to be lifted. This happened during the gulf war and this happened following 9/11 and 2003. Then once the situation "stabilizes" they put it back in place. As long as it wasn't a violent felony you could reasonably plea to it.

  1. US hasn't send prisoners to war since at least Vietnam.
  2. Freeing prisores for light offenses during period when whole existence of country is under risk is different than freeing killers and sending them to Wagner Group during offensive war.
  3. Also, you are nigger.
Maybe because they are still Zambian citiznes? Idk, right constitution somethin. :thinking:
1. They have. Read up.
2. What makes you think Russia is freeing violent Felons while Ukraine only sent the good boi prisoner who dindunuffin?
3. It doesn't matter if they're Zambian citizens, They acted in their capacity as an individual to break a law then agreed to fight for Russia again in their own capacity as an individual. You do not get special protection for breaking a law in a foreign country. Some Americans have, but you really have to be someone important to the US government or have a high profile for that to happen because otherwise the US Government is just as happy to let you rot in a 3rd world prison as anyone else.
 
@AgendaPoster I am not mad at the Internet, I am mad at Europeans for endlessly mocking me when I was a kid. They will pay.
We could use a Mad at Europeans reaction, mr. Jersh.
Regardless, if that's true, I'd like to formally apologize for those events, being a kid and adolescent is serious business.
Why so vengeful tho'? I got beaten by gypsies as a child and they stole the few things I had to go to school with but it's not like I wanna make them pay or w/e
 
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It was confirmed that most of the people "zip-tied" were mostly gypsies who got zip-tied for being Gypsies (justified if you ask me) and the rest were either migrants with no real connection to Russia or people zip-tied under false pretenses because their neighbors didn't like them. People that were really traiters were usually just executed by the SBU or local Militias.

It's also worth mentioning that the zip-tying was usually accompanied by stripping the people to a degree or another and openly encouraging their beating in public. I understand most of you people have the memory of a gold-fish so i don't expect you to remember something discussed way back in the first or early second thread.

That is incorrect. While currently there is a bar on people with any criminal record (significant or otherwise) from joining whenever the US has started a campaign this has been one of the first requirements to be lifted. This happened during the gulf war and this happened following 9/11 and 2003. Then once the situation "stabilizes" they put it back in place. As long as it wasn't a violent felony you could reasonably plea to it.


1. They have. Read up.
2. What makes you think Russia is freeing violent Felons while Ukraine only sent the good boi prisoner who dindunuffin?
3. It doesn't matter if they're Zambian citizens, They acted in their capacity as an individual to break a law then agreed to fight for Russia again in their own capacity as an individual. You do not get special protection for breaking a law in a foreign country. Some Americans have, but you really have to be someone important to the US government or have a high profile for that to happen because otherwise the US Government is just as happy to let you rot in a 3rd world prison as anyone else.
Felons (violent or otherwise) in the United States cannot handle firearms, to include military controlled small arms. Your claim this was not the case post 9/11 is total bullshit as there was a surge of volunteers after post 9/11 fervor and recruiters had little problems making their quota. As for Iraq, I don't recall things being so bad prisoners or felons being picked up, bar persons who had their convictions overturned. Find us an example of prisoners being scouted for military service as you claim. Also we have videos of Wagner going to prison labor camps for fresh bodies. Can you validate any of your claims at all or are just speaking out of your ass?
 
Um, this dude was not killed by Ukrainians. He was recruited by Wagner from a prison, where he was serving a 30 year sentence (god knows what for). He fought for Wagner in a penal unit and was taken prisoner by Ukraine, and was exchanged in a prisoner swap. In that last tape he is back in Wagner custody as a deserter, and is being executed by concrete mallet to the head as a warning to other prison convicts who try to surrender.

That's not to say Ukrainian soldiers are not committing war crimes; I'm sure some are, and there are probably more credible examples already posted here. But in this specific case it is Wagner executing a convict soldier to warn other convicts not to surrender.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-who-defected-ukraine-shown-video-2022-11-13/

Russia's Yevgeny Prigozhin, a close ally of President Vladimir Putin, said on Sunday that a former mercenary who was filmed being executed by a sledgehammer blow to the head after changing sides in the Ukraine war was a traitor.

Prigozhin, a Russian businessman who founded the Wagner private military group, was responding to an unverified video distributed on Telegram that showed a man identified as a former Wagner mercenary being executed after admitting that he had changed sides in September to "fight against the Russians".

In the footage, the man, who gave his name as Yevgenny Nuzhin, 55, was shown with his head taped to a brick wall. He said he was abducted in Kyiv on Oct. 11 and came around in a cellar.

"I got hit over the head and lost consciousness and came around in this cellar," he said. "They told me I was to be tried."

As he said those words, an unidentified man loitering in combat clothing behind Nuzhin, smashed a sledgehammer into the side of his head and neck.

Nuzhin collapsed onto the floor and the unidentified man delivered another blow to his head.

Reuters was unable to immediately verify the video which appeared on the Grey Zone Telegram channel, one of several that Russian media said was linked to the Wagner group. The video was posted under the title "The hammer of revenge".

Asked to comment on the execution video, Prigozhin said in remarks released by his spokeswoman that the video should be called "A dog receives a dog's death".

"Nuzhin betrayed his people, betrayed his comrades, betrayed consciously," said Prigozhin, who has been sanctioned by the United States and European Union for his role in Wagner. "Nuzhin was a traitor."
So wagner is operating in Kiev? :thinking:

Based. "Won't some one please think of the hecking traitors?" Open a history book. They clearly earned the traitor's due. The shits are lucky they aren't facing a hanging.
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Speaking for myself, I can say I don't care that the guy got got, traitors and enemies do deserve death but you can just hang or shoot them as in the pics you posted. It's only ironic because Ukraine and the media act like Ukrainians are such wholesome chunguses while only Russians are brutal urukhai.
Following on the claim that Wagner did it, easily believable but funny if they're able to tie up their own traitors in Kiev of all places.
 
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We could use a Mad at Europeans reaction, mr. Jersh.
Regardless, if that's true, I'd like to formally apologize for those events, being a kid and adolescent is serious business.
Why so vengeful tho'? I got beaten by gypsies as a child and they stole the few things I had to go to school with but it's not like I wanna make them pay or w/e
I do it for the stickers. You people cannot help but give them to me. And stickers give me power.
 
So wagner is operating in Kiev? :thinking:
It's not exactly clear what part of his story that refers to, or whether the details are even true. What is known is he was exchanged to Wagner for Ukrainian POWs and then Wagner soldiers filmed this execution and uploaded the video, and when asked for comment, the leader of Wagner said he died like a dog for treason.
 
So wagner is operating in Kiev? :thinking:



Speaking for myself, I can say I don't care that the guy got got, traitors and enemies do deserve death but you can just hang or shoot them as in the pics you posted. It's only ironic because Ukraine and the media act like Ukrainians are such wholesome chunguses while only Russians are brutal urukhai.
Following on the claim that Wagner did it, easily believable but funny if they're able to tie up their own traitors in Kiev of all places.
For the former wager guy I beleive the going theory is he was captured in the frontline hense why he was wearing a Ukr Army uniform in his execution video.
 
I didn't know the definition of lynching was zip tie-ing someone to a pole to restrain them. Another lynching of negros unearthed by the Russian media no doubt.
Hmmm...how about going after priests and worshipers because a rando claimed singing a hymn to the Virgin meant they were Russian sympathizers? Going after religious leaders and their parishioners is petty and barbaric.
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Hmmm...how about going after priests and worshipers because a rando claimed singing a hymn to the Virgin meant they were Russian sympathizers? Going after religious leaders and their parishioners is petty and barbaric.
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Is this a lynching too? Not sure what the whole story is here or if it's even facutal. I don't take random nobodies on telegram as fact based news (unless it's Null).
 
Felons (violent or otherwise) in the United States cannot handle firearms, to include military controlled small arms. Your claim this was not the case post 9/11 is total bullshit as there was a surge of volunteers after post 9/11 fervor and recruiters had little problems making their quota. As for Iraq, I don't recall things being so bad prisoners or felons being picked up, bar persons who had their convictions overturned. Find us an example of prisoners being scouted for military service as you claim. Also we have videos of Wagner going to prison labor camps for fresh bodies. Can you validate any of your claims at all or are just speaking out of your ass?
After sentencing yes, there's a whole heap of restrictions placed upon you after sentencing and serving. This is completely irrelevant to under or over the table deals that a person might agree to. Again why wouldn't you want to recruit from the prison population, even if you eliminate any and all felonies (which realistically would be the last people to be considered) they only make up a little under half of the prison population, at least in the us. Especially before or immediately starting a deployment when you realistically don't know what the casualty rate will be.

Also using the word scouting is rather misleading as it implies prisoners being actively sought after, it's more to do with a change in recruitment standards. Basically expanding the pool of bodies to draw from.

I'm not at all denying that Russia is using prisoners in the frontline. My issue is simply with people pretending this is some horrific, never before seen a front to common decency when not only is this something has has been done both historically and in recent times by other countries but also it's not the worst pool you could be drawing people from.

As for "evidence" i don't have a convenient video to supply to you, however if you bother talking with veterans from those conflicts (you could even probably find a few on youtube) they're not shy about mentioning whatever Jailbirds were active in their unit.

I used to think the 34 in your name was referring to the firearm but now i'm starting to think it's referring to your IQ.
 
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