Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

More info if anyone asks but jeez that was like being hit by a truck.

Guess he was gay all along and just repressed the shit out of it to the point it became neurotic. If you are so far in denial and self hate for so long "i am achkshually a straight woman with disphoria" must seem like a better compromise than admitting you are a gay man with sissyfication fetish.

I'd read the whole story too btw. How did you even find all that out?

 

[Hepativore]

Guess he was gay all along and just repressed the shit out of it to the point it became neurotic. If you are so far in denial and self hate for so long "i am achkshually a straight woman with disphoria" must seem like a better compromise than admitting you are a gay man with sissyfication fetish.

I'd read the whole story too btw. How did you even find all that out?

I do not understand why somebody would rather present themselves as a troon instead of being a homosexual. I thought we were accepting enough in most developed countries that you could be gay or lesbian and it is socially fine to most people. Just because somebody is homosexual, it does not make them less of a man or woman.

Instead, if you hop on the troon train, you will just come off as creepy or a laughing stock to most people, you will be surrounded by some very dysfunctional individuals in terms of your fellow trannies in the trans cult, and you will probably never pass despite all of the hormones and disfiguring surgery in the world, to say nothing of the permanent medical problems it brings.

 

[Vingle]

I thought we were accepting enough in most developed countries that you could be gay or lesbian and it is socially fine to most people.

Most people would have no clue if you were a fag, if being gay wasn't your personality. As is common with many fags.

 

[Chromeo]

It makes me wonder about how long it will be before public schools in my country (the US) have routine, yearly, "trans screening" like they do with hearing, vision, or head lice checks.

Cursed thought, but lice checks don't give kids lice and hearing checks don't make kids go deaf. I feel like trans checks would make kids want to be trans, like how the DARE program made kids want to try drugs. Imagine how creepy it would be too if a troon "professional" was the one who came in to do the trans check (like how doctors come in for some of the health screenings) and he just labelled random kids as "eggs" because it got him off. Ugghhhh.

Uniforms should just be the standard. It might not be as "fun", but kids would look presentable and it would deal with a lot of concerns with giving school children free reign as to how they dress themselves.

These sorts of things happen because kids are psychopaths. It has nothing to do with the uniform.

One of the schools I went to as a child had "uniforms," but because it was a shit-ass garbage hole the "uniform" was just a specific set of colors of clothes. I can't give specific details at risk of PL'ing, but ultimately the "uniform" didn't solve any problems. It just made new ones. I know it's just that one school (I really hope it's just that one school) that doesn't understand what a fucking uniform is, but it kind of engrained in me at a young age that uniforms are bullshit and don't do anything to curb students'...child-ness. There will always be signs of individualism, poor kids left out because their parents just can't afford it, bullies who manage to find material, hell, there'll still be troons too.
"B-but my daughter Lacey Undergarments identifies as female now and wants to order the girl's uniform!" "My nonbinary child Aether can't wear a skirt, xe has to wear the male uniform because pants are the most gender neutral!" God knows nobody wants to walk into a middle school and see this:

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Cursed thought, but lice checks don't give kids lice and hearing checks don't make kids go deaf. I feel like trans checks would make kids want to be trans, like how the DARE program made kids want to try drugs. Imagine how creepy it would be too if a troon "professional" was the one who came in to do the trans check (like how doctors come in for some of the health screenings) and he just labelled random kids as "eggs" because it got him off. Ugghhhh.

The mental health screenings that are already mandated in some places have a similar impact. Bad incident in my family where a young kid (I think about 7 at the time) first was introduced to the concept of "killing oneself" through one of those screenings and developed actual anxiety due to the imagery it cooked up in their little fuzzy head.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I do not understand why somebody would rather present themselves as a troon instead of being a homosexual. I thought we were accepting enough in most developed countries that you could be gay or lesbian and it is socially fine to most people

every mind is its own world. Some people grow up with a shit ton of internalized hate regardless. You see it a lot in Brazil too, gay men often prefer to troon out since they have it in their heads that being gay is the worst thing you can be and it actually works for them in a way but thats a society thats actually homophobic.

 

[Hepativore]

every mind is its own world. Some people grow up with a shit ton of internalized hate regardless. You see it a lot in Brazil too, gay men often prefer to troon out since they have it in their heads that being gay is the worst thing you can be and it actually works for them in a way but thats a society thats actually homophobic.

But very few people actually think a troon is truly a member of the opposite sex, so a gay man or lesbian woman seems like it should garner more respect than somebody pretending what they are not and can never be, as an MTF is still a man, and an FTM is still a woman...and would be an instant turn-off to all but tranny-chasers.

 

[Vingle]

The mental health screenings that are already mandated in some places have a similar impact. Bad incident in my family where a young kid (I think about 7 at the time) first was introduced to the concept of "killing oneself" through one of those screenings and developed actual anxiety due to the imagery it cooked up in their little fuzzy head.

As the saying goes. The stupid seem to be the happiest, and sometimes it's best to remain ignorant.
It says itself that introducing a serious subject to someone that young, is going to go bad.

 

[Kane Lives]

So an online acquaintance of mine finally hit the "non-binary" button and changing his name. I'm giving him three years before he starts the dickchop.

For context: he's a gay (unemployed) dude living in a West European country. Has been sperging about tranny shit for years now.

 

[Mairon]

Guess he was gay all along and just repressed the shit out of it to the point it became neurotic. If you are so far in denial and self hate for so long "i am achkshually a straight woman with disphoria" must seem like a better compromise than admitting you are a gay man with sissyfication fetish.

I'd read the whole story too btw. How did you even find all that out?

We'd been friends since middle school and around the time we graduated 12th grade, we were hangin out at his mom's single-wide trailer and I was teaching him some guitar stuff since he wanted to learn. He brought up gender shit and I knew it was going downhill. Went home a few hours after shutting that convo down and the next day he texted me and said he was calling himself Blaire and that he was a lady now. Sorry if this is a weak story but there really isn't much to it. I asked him if he was sure, he said yeah, and we stopped talking after that. I text him every now and then but it's basically deadzo til the dude decides to be normal.

Same dude that used to be the brute of our gang, being the tallest and strongest, ended up calling himself a woman. It's always those guys.

 

[Skookum Jim]

An update on the friend I posted about a while ago in this thread. The last time I hung out with her we shot the shit over those new Sour Patch Kids energy drinks, talked about wendigos and convergent mythology (every european culture having some version of a Hercules strongman myth as an example, they all likely come from a root Indo-European myth lost to time.) and were generally having a great time. Then she starts talking about how this is going to be her "fuck it year" where she does as much weed and whatever else she feels like as she wants, and then will detox and get her life together this coming year. She then started spewing more trans bullshit that made my eyes glaze over, but what hit me is this Fuck it year.

She's not going to detox, we both know it. She's going to do a fuckload of weed, get sucked further into the nightmare delusion hole that is her Discord server, and once she gets access to her grandparents inheritance at 21 (their stipulation) she's going to get the surgeries, and from there it's just going to get worse. Someone earlier in the thread talked about how people with depressive disorders gravitate towards destructive behavior because theres always that little bug in your ear saying "fuck it, if it kills you then you won't have to do it yourself." I think that's what's happening to her, Lord knows she's struggled, we both have, I drink way too much soda because of that Fuck It bug, i know what it's like. Soda won't make my life a Giger Nightmare though, it'll just rot my teeth and make me fat.

It sucks losing your oldest friend, especially when something that looks like her still walks and talks like her. It's not her though, it probably hasn't been for years. Part of me wants her back but short of a miracle, it'll never happen, all that's left now is to keep the funeral suit laundered and wait to say goodbye.

 

[Pure Snort]

So an online acquaintance of mine finally hit the "non-binary" button and changing his name. I'm giving him three years before he starts the dickchop.

For context: he's a gay (unemployed) dude living in a West European country. Has been sperging about tranny shit for years now.

3 years? Yeah, sounds about right. Friend of mine suddenly hit the trans button about 2 years ago and just a month ago got the dick chop too. Crazy how fast they can pile on bad decisions. They're not one of these toxic/negative people, they still seem pretty chill and I can have fun playing online games with them, but I'm not optimistic that they'll be around for 5-10 more years, I feel like the surgery sealed their fate and there's nothing to stop the regret from slowly sinking in on them.

 

[FinnSven]

I do not understand why somebody would rather present themselves as a troon instead of being a homosexual. I thought we were accepting enough in most developed countries that you could be gay or lesbian and it is socially fine to most people. Just because somebody is homosexual, it does not make them less of a man or woman.

Instead, if you hop on the troon train, you will just come off as creepy or a laughing stock to most people, you will be surrounded by some very dysfunctional individuals in terms of your fellow trannies in the trans cult, and you will probably never pass despite all of the hormones and disfiguring surgery in the world, to say nothing of the permanent medical problems it brings.

It might be when they “only are attracted to straight people”, that has some sort of effect on the process of coming out for themselves.

They are still so convinced they are “straight”, they troon or they believe that all gay people have to behave like gay stereotypes, fit into gay subculture, etc.

Of course gay people don’t have to do that, I mean okay, I live in Swede-land where most fags and fagesses are basically like that.
Deeply ordinary and barely anyone takes a blind bit of notice if someone’s plus one to the company parties is the same sex as them.

There is a bit of gay stereotype subculture around, but compared to the larger Uk cities, it is smaller and tame, even in cities of equal size and diversity.

But surely there must be fags who don’t have to mince, screech and squeal, while selling houses and having weddings for dogs around in other countries?

Anyway! That is what I wonder about repressed gays who troon.

The major problem with this though, if true, is that it inadvertently is sending the gay rights and trans rights movements backwards as it gives the people who think that gays and Troons are just out to try to trick straight men into sex.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

But very few people actually think a troon is truly a member of the opposite sex, so a gay man or lesbian woman seems like it should garner more respect than somebody pretending what they are not and can never be, as an MTF is still a man, and an FTM is still a woman...and would be an instant turn-off to all but tranny-chasers.

the stereotypical brazilian tranny will be seen as either severely mentally ill or a circus amusement but they'd still rather adopt those personas and be a village clown than face regular homophobia. I don't fully follow the logic but for in certain cultures is easier to pass troonism as mental illness, something that warrants empathy and pity while homosexuality remains a grave sin that stems solely from moral degeneracy and needs punishment.

 

[pork and beans]

The true gigachad move is to make enough money so you can buy their house then evict them so  they have to live in their car.

ah, the jesse pinkman way

 

[Dona Morte]

A couple of months back my mom somehow found out that I visit the Farms. Admittedly, when she confronted me about it I was not very receptive to her concerns (it's hard not for me to roll my eyes when I'm being lectured from a place of ignorance). She got angry and threatened to kick me out.

Hang in there man, work on the job and be out of the house as much as possible.
When in the house yes sir no sir yes ma'am no ma'am.
I got a little experience with parents who refuse to do the hard work of therapy. They will be eaten up by guilt for this when it does come out that their little girl is still messed up.
She will need therapy, and will need family later in life.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

An update on the friend I posted about a while ago in this thread. The last time I hung out with her we shot the shit over those new Sour Patch Kids energy drinks, talked about wendigos and convergent mythology (every european culture having some version of a Hercules strongman myth as an example, they all likely come from a root Indo-European myth lost to time.) and were generally having a great time. Then she starts talking about how this is going to be her "fuck it year" where she does as much weed and whatever else she feels like as she wants, and then will detox and get her life together this coming year. She then started spewing more trans bullshit that made my eyes glaze over, but what hit me is this Fuck it year.

She's not going to detox, we both know it. She's going to do a fuckload of weed, get sucked further into the nightmare delusion hole that is her Discord server, and once she gets access to her grandparents inheritance at 21 (their stipulation) she's going to get the surgeries, and from there it's just going to get worse. Someone earlier in the thread talked about how people with depressive disorders gravitate towards destructive behavior because theres always that little bug in your ear saying "fuck it, if it kills you then you won't have to do it yourself." I think that's what's happening to her, Lord knows she's struggled, we both have, I drink way too much soda because of that Fuck It bug, i know what it's like. Soda won't make my life a Giger Nightmare though, it'll just rot my teeth and make me fat.

It sucks losing your oldest friend, especially when something that looks like her still walks and talks like her. It's not her though, it probably hasn't been for years. Part of me wants her back but short of a miracle, it'll never happen, all that's left now is to keep the funeral suit laundered and wait to say goodbye.

Maybe you should call her bullshit. If for nothing else to get closure because you tried. It might get her choose a different path but more likely will end up with her kicking you out her life. Even worse that's kinda the plus. A clean cut away from her before she turns completely toxic is very likely the best outcome for you and if can't save her you should save yourself.

So get it all out in the open, be brutally honest. Tell her that you know that she knows the detox is never happening unless she starts before her "fuck it" year. She is on the brink of destruction, can still stop it but not for long. She has depression, no amount of partying or surgery will fix that. She needs a healthy lifestyle with boring things like regular meals, good sleep, exercise, social life with not fuck ups and maybe meds depending on why she has depression. She needs fill her day with work, hobbies and family so she less time to think about being sad and not liking herself. Most that will be neutral and kinda boring but better than sad and selfhate.

 

[AfghanBlue]

every type of BC pill I’ve ever seen, has a very regimented blister pack, day ordered because they need to be taken a certain way. It’s not just like a bottle of pills… that you could manage to find sugar pills to mimick.

Medical pills are in all shapes and sizes, with different shells, skins, and detailing on them.. sugar pills aren’t.

Also how does he know anything about/in what sense mock “your periods getting heavier” ? Like what kind of shape would such an exchange even take?


Sounds like lies ngl.

There’s a fair bit of inexplicable larping on here.
The untrue sounding stories aren’t even imaginative or fun. At least make up something wild if you’re going to.
Weird. I

3 years? Yeah, sounds about right. Friend of mine suddenly hit the trans button about 2 years ago and just a month ago got the dick chop too. Crazy how fast they can pile on bad decisions. They're not one of these toxic/negative people, they still seem pretty chill and I can have fun playing online games with them, but I'm not optimistic that they'll be around for 5-10 more years, I feel like the surgery sealed their fate and there's nothing to stop the regret from slowly sinking in on them.

I will never stop being amazed by how quickly they move.
It took me five years to decide on a new sofa, that was not even expensive, while the one I sat on ruined my bad back meanwhile.

 

[BeetleBug242]

It has finally happened. One of my first friends when I got into highschool, is trooning out. He's always been a little more feminine and I've always told him that was okay (To avoid this outcome) well now it seems like he has no prospects and has turned to troonism. His therapist basically right away told him he's actually a woman. I know what his problems are, He struggles socially, his parents are old out of touch boomers, he has no IRL friends, his online friends are horrible people, and most IRL relationships have turned to shit for him. He always struggled to remain focused and thus has been battling with Adderal for years.

It doesn't take a fucking genius to understand there are more underlying issues about your identity. Now he's texting me about his new titties and talking about being in a marginalized group, and how for one day he doesn't want to be called a fag.

I very much so doubt that so many people are openly calling him a fag when you can get arrested for that here.

So on top of losing a long-term friend to troonism it also seems to be a decision he's dead set about. I honestly have no idea what to do now, like I know if I'm not there and something bad happens no one else will be there for him. I also know that he's ridiculously stubborn when it's something he believes.

 

[Hepativore]

I will never stop being amazed by how quickly they move.
It took me five years to decide on a new sofa, that was not even expensive, while the one I sat on ruined my bad back meanwhile.

Many of us are also amazed at how easy it is for people to go down this path as there is almost no oversight from psychiatric or medical professionals or is actively encouraged, longterm patient welfare or consequences be damned.