Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

EpicGamerMoment said:
After skimming through the leak I believe it’s real. It’s got new portraits, unique ideology icons and details on which devs designed which President. No one would go through this effort to make a fake and it’s consistent with other real TNO leaks.

They cutting the NPP lmao. They really hate Panzer.
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At this point I don't see why they just abandon the mod. It's apparent at this point they have less direction than when Panzer was in charge. Sunk cost fallacy I suppose.
 
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Corpun said:
At this point I don't see why they just abandon the mod. It's apparent at this point they have less direction than when Panzer was in charge. Sunk cost fallacy I suppose.
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Where else will they make their fanfics come true
 
I'd honestly like a TNORedux style mod that restores the original fun lore, makes actual gameplay content, and has fun with the setting as a grimdark pulp cold war.

But, given how fucking retarded the HOI4 community is, it would never happen. Atlantentropa, Burgundy's supervillain plotting, Hall's bloody purges, the NPP. Lost in time, like tears in rain.
 
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EpicGamerMoment said:
After skimming through the leak I believe it’s real. It’s got new portraits, unique ideology icons and details on which devs designed which President. No one would go through this effort to make a fake and it’s consistent with other real TNO leaks.

They cutting the NPP lmao. They really hate Panzer.
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If they cut the NPP will it just be a bog standard Dems vs Reps, because despite the NPP being ridiculous it adds much needed originality into the mod
 
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KingLiberty76 said:
If they cut the NPP will it just be a bog standard Dems vs Reps, because despite the NPP being ridiculous it adds much needed originality into the mod
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Except for the part where RDs vs NPP is basically Republicans vs Democrats with extra steps. Seriously even internally last I checked there are basically just two wings in both parties. The concept would have been far more interesting if Democrats had remained an independent party making US politics far more interesting. You could have had a guy like George Wallace going to either the NPP or Democrats based on certain early-game actions.

Too original for TNO though.
 
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Bloudwulf said:
People say that HoI4 used to be a "far-right thing" and that it had a "nazi problem". But was that really the case? What did this problem look like? Did rightists too make unfinished mods that shilled their backwards ideologies?
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The were a couple of failed right wing mods that never got off the ground but they were in the minority. It wasn't anymore of a problem than of some of the crazy leftists that joined in the community to make their fantasies come to life. Most of the people that were interested in hoi4 modding at the beginning were alt history autists that wanted to copy Kaiserreich and ask "what if the other side won x war?"
 
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Skookum Jim said:
Are there any mods left that aren't shit?.
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Unironically EaW keeps being the most ambitious mod that is actually really fun to play. You have essentially everything from medieval crusader states to Ancap countries. Just install one of the anime or de-ponyfication submods to make it bearable.
Meanwhile PDX shit updates ruined most fun niche mods like the Chinese Warlord mod or Disaster since the devs couldn't spend the time to keep updating the mod every 2 months.
 
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ShittlerNiggler said:
Unironically EaW keeps being the most ambitious mod that is actually really fun to play. You have essentially everything from medieval crusader states to Ancap countries. Just install one of the anime or de-ponyfication submods to make it bearable.
Meanwhile PDX shit updates ruined most fun niche mods like the Chinese Warlord mod or Disaster since the devs couldn't spend the time to keep updating the mod every 2 months.
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I have played a fair bit of EaW, because I had heard it is quite cool if you can get past the pony shit. Barrad being an actual ass text adventure with a magic dueling system was a sick surprise, the River federation is a really cool way to make peacetime interesting in an otherwise barren part of the world content wise, and the Posada path for Hippogriffia is pretty fun all around. I won't go so far as to have it be my main mod of choice, it's still a pony mod, but frankly if you're looking for an entirely new world, unique nations, and a shitload of new and actually useful technology to play around with, EaW is the gold standard.

Here's hoping as the fallout of the TNO clusterfuck continues to settle, and hoi4 modding will go back to being about the gameplay instead of about "muh ideology best" wanking. The community had a certain level of that from the beginning, there's no fixing it completely, but TNO and it's consequences have been disastrous for the HoI4 modding scene. There are mods with potential, I've mentioned Pax Britannica, Age of Imperialism looks interesting, and Thousand Week Reich is essentially TNO but with actual gameplay. TWR is quite jank at present, I think they're 2 DLC cycles behind in properly integrating the content from those DLC, but it has the potential to showcase an alternate history 50s cold war gone hot, with tactical nuclear weapons being used with reckless abandon, and the very beginning of modern combined arms warfare clashing with the last dying breaths of outmoded ideas (heavy tanks, massed infantry formations, etc etc)
 
Bloudwulf said:
People say that HoI4 used to be a "far-right thing" and that it had a "nazi problem". But was that really the case? What did this problem look like? Did rightists too make unfinished mods that shilled their backwards ideologies?
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It had a ton of wehraboos and still does outside of mod discord servers
 
Bloudwulf said:
People say that HoI4 used to be a "far-right thing" and that it had a "nazi problem". But was that really the case? What did this problem look like? Did rightists too make unfinished mods that shilled their backwards ideologies?
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They were too busy playing "competitive" Hoi to make mods.

ShittlerNiggler said:
Unironically EaW keeps being the most ambitious mod that is actually really fun to play. You have essentially everything from medieval crusader states to Ancap countries. Just install one of the anime or de-ponyfication submods to make it bearable.
Meanwhile PDX shit updates ruined most fun niche mods like the Chinese Warlord mod or Disaster since the devs couldn't spend the time to keep updating the mod every 2 months.
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EaW is decently fun but the best part by far is that its really well optimised, you can all the fun and interesting mechanics or storylines you want but if the game is chugging along at a snails pace its just not fun and thats where EaW shines. Being able to bash out a run in an afternoon is way better than a multi-day affair with the likes of KR.
 
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I'm sort of impressed that after the removal of the former Nazi troon from the head of the project this mod somehow managed to get even worse.
 
L50LasPak said:
I'm sort of impressed that after the removal of the former Nazi troon from the head of the project this mod somehow managed to get even worse.
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Under Panzer content actually got released. I said this in the thread before but if he had gotten his alcoholism and manchildness in check he had the potential to be a good lead developer. Although I still dislike his original aims with the mod, his Francis Fukuyama-esque "authoritarianism/non-liberalism is bound to fail" message. Removing this and "failstates" from the mod was a smart move by the new devs.
 
Rome's rightful successor said:
TNO team just uploaded their official soundtrack on youtube.
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I still prefer the soundtrack they borrowed from East vs. West. This stuff sounds like some amateur Soundcloud playlist, probably composed by teenagers who managed to give their pirated software some use at last.

Some are alright if they stick to ambience. When they get in this fucking MIDI hyperactive arcade mood (01:32:39), I want to off myself. Such a fucking earrape. Fire the chimpanzees composing this shit and stick to (or emulate) the stuff we thankfully had going on release. This all began with Ayden George and those icky TEE-ENN-OH soundtrack videos for Burgundy and the Black League. The fandom's YouTube is exactly where they belonged.

The OST is a horrid downgrade. I don't give a fuck that you had used a non-original playlist before that was better because it was composed professionally. I boot up the mod and I resent the autistic tunes they've crammed into the game's radio, and I care about my tastes, not the charity work these geeks piss out for HOI4 mods.
 
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