Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[CFC-12]

As long as he has monitored internet access so we can see his complaints, this is the ideal.

I wonder if they'd make a special case for Chris and bar him from accessing the internet completely as long as he's in some form of custody. Surely they must know how much damage that the Internet has done to him already?

 

[TayandYou]

Looks like Chris isn't going to get lolcow of the year this time. He really tried with the whole "Zombie Barb" thing, but there just wasn't enough he could do from jail to overcome the stiff opposition from the likes of Gunt and Ye.

 

[Ophelia]

I wonder if they'd make a special case for Chris and bar him from accessing the internet completely as long as he's in some form of custody. Surely they must know how much damage that the Internet has done to him already?

Seeing if monitoring it works first would make more sense but who knows. It would be easier to just tell him that if he wants net, he’ll have to use McDonalds wifi. The internet is so much a part of every day life, totally banning someone doesn’t seem feasible.

 

[D is for Stupid]

Seeing if monitoring it works first would make more sense but who knows. It would be easier to just tell him that if he wants net, he’ll have to use McDonalds wifi. The internet is so much a part of every day life, totally banning someone doesn’t seem feasible.

I think it's interesting. Because @Pointless Sperg mentioned cutting off the internet might not be possible.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/feb-28...nother-facility.113715/page-118#post-11805330

His crime was not internet related. I guess the only way they can cut the internet specifically from him if they cut all communication. Or if he violates the home's rule/law such as looking at porn or trying to solicit someone to contact barb to get to get his toys.

When he gets internet, we'll hear from him for sure, but it won't be in the same volume if he's in a home. Unless he goes to McDonald's , he does love fast food.

 

[Disastrously Dumb]

there seems to be an influx of ppl who review Christory
and come to the conclusion that Chris may have diddled Patti
or diddled his cats/dogs in between 2014-2021

i wonder how ppl come to such conclusions?

 

[BobJones997]

I think it's interesting. Because @Pointless Sperg mentioned cutting off the internet might not be possible.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/feb-28...nother-facility.113715/page-118#post-11805330

His crime was not internet related. I guess the only way they can cut the internet specifically from him if they cut all communication. Or if he violates the home's rule/law such as looking at porn or trying to solicit someone to contact barb to get to get his toys.

When he gets internet, we'll hear from him for sure, but it won't be in the same volume if he's in a home. Unless he goes to McDonald's , he does love fast food.

I think it's very likely that the group home he goes to will want to either ban or severely restrict his internet access due to not wanting to put up with weens and such. It'll be interesting to see what happens to all his internet stuff when he gets out of jail. I could potentially see them allowing him to sell his art on praetor's webpage (as long as it's nothing obscene) but I definitely can't see them allowing him to have youtube/twitter/etc .

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

there seems to be an influx of ppl who review Christory
and come to the conclusion that Chris may have diddled Patti
or diddled his cats/dogs in between 2014-2021

i wonder how ppl come to such conclusions?

Retardation and poor reading comprehension.

 

[Jon Osterman]

I think it's very likely that the group home he goes to will want to either ban or severely restrict his internet access due to not wanting to put up with weens and such. It'll be interesting to see what happens to all his internet stuff when he gets out of jail. I could potentially see them allowing him to sell his art on praetor's webpage (as long as it's nothing obscene) but I definitely can't see them allowing him to have youtube/twitter/etc .

I assume at the tard home the orderlies have the ultimate authority to just ban Chris from ever using the communal computers, but not the law. Internet restrictions is a rarely used punishment, only implemented when the crime actually involves the internet (and even then they can't completely disallow access). Banging Barb did not require the internet, so the court can't block his access to social media as a punishment, even if Chris would be better off without it. Hell even if he was put on the SOR the courts couldn't control his usage at all.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Alright, time for the interdimensional sperg post I've been thinking up for a while

We all know Chris believes in other universes, or more specifically, the popculture version of alternate realities. However, basically everything he believes about them or how they're portrayed in pop culture is wrong.

Spoiler: Parallel universe sperging

First off, many scientists will tell you that other universes aren't scientific to begin with because they can't be observed and are therefore completely speculative like Santa Clause or Nessie.

It might also depend on what you mean by universe. Our observable universe is 93 billion lightyears across. If someone were to stand 200 billion lightyears away from us, their observable universe would be a different one from ours, but it wouldn't be an overlapping reality separated by a magical veil as shown in the movies.

In terms of other universes as in completely unconnected in spacetime, the idea that gains most purchase in popculture and Chris's imagination is that if you assume infinite other universes, when we have no right to assume one, than anything no matter how unlikely MUST have happened in another universe. But even if there are infinite other universes they might be filled with infinite possibilities other than what you imagine.

If there were infinite other universes and you met your mirror image, this isn't a different "version" of you or a path not taken, it would be more like out of all the infinite universes there would be one where an Earth like planet also evolved creatures exactly like humans and one happens to look like you and even have the same name. But it wouldn't be another "you" in any meaningful way, it would just be someone who looks like you ala Prince and the Popper. Merging universes wouldn't cause people to become their counterparts, they would just be two different people who look the same.

Ideas like timelines diverging into alternate realities come from things like the Many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, in which observing a particle creates two universes, one in which it's a particle and one in which it's a wave. The many worlds interpretation is also controversial as other universes cannot be observed, and therefore it cannot be proven or even tested. Even if Many worlds interpretation were the case, it wouldn't mean there are alternate timeline versions of your life unless your life somehow hinged on one particle measurement. If many worlds interpretation is correct, then we might bore through the walls between universes only to find many worlds exactly like our own, but on one day in June 1967 a particle was measured as a wave instead.

The idea that other universes might have different laws of physics, and therefore allow science fiction and magic, also fails as we see in our own universe that slight tweaks to the laws of physics would prevent matter from ever forming. Some might even argue our universe is the exception to that commonality, so if you could visit other universes, you might have to wade through infinite voids and universes of nothing but gas clouds with no stars or planets until you find even one universe that has them.

Chris also fancies himself a goddess, creating these this other universe and changing its history at will. As established, another universe of your OCs would just be one that in a very long string of coincidences, happens to look exactly like what you imagined. It would be under no obligation or likelihood to continue looking exactly like what you imagine. And if you tried to change details, as Chris has changed the comics (such as turning gay vaccine into the vaccine for a plague) it wouldn't at all impact that universe, it would mean Chris started "chronicling" a different universe, and all the Sonichus and Rosechus from the first one would have to be abandoned.

And finally, these other universes wouldn't overlap our own divided by the "iron curtain" they would be dozens of billions if not infinite lightyears away, and therefore, inaccessible by our universe. Wormholes would have to be opened to connect you to another universe, but wormholes are their own mess with many reasons challenging their possibility, traversability, or the survivability of traversing one, and there would be no way for Chris to know whatuniverse he's accessing ahead of time. Quite simply, Chris couldn't go to other universes, and they couldn't come to us, we're all stuck here on Earth 1218

 

[Kyuss]

or diddled his cats/dogs in between 2014-2021

That one is because in the Geno doc Chris says a few times "i do not piddle my cats" or something along that lines. So i'm sure someone thought he molest his cats from it. Not sure where the Pat one is coming from.

I assume at the tard home the orderlies

The treatment team always has final say.
In order of importance his firstline treatment therapist/doctor, the social worker (who exist to ensure legality), and finally the treatment team itself which consist of various degrees of speciality workers/interns who work in the facility.
Chris does not have a constitutional standing for many such things you think he would. If Chris using the internet aggravates him or causes antagonizing bouts between him and other persons in a facility. He loses the right to it. Orderlies just sort of transpose the day to day events for the treatment teams.
I think the only right Chris gets to keep no matter what is mail and legal counsel. Which I think is just staff patching the phone call through to his lawyer and him picking up a phone. You can lose phone call privileges outside of that. It can be pretty relax or it can be stricter than prison in a facility. It really depends on Chris and how he acts. If he wants internet use he is going to have to prove he can be a big boy.

 

[Chazzed Up]

Seeing if monitoring it works first would make more sense but who knows. It would be easier to just tell him that if he wants net, he’ll have to use McDonalds wifi. The internet is so much a part of every day life, totally banning someone doesn’t seem feasible.

I've seen predators be barred from using the internet as part of their parole... but I'm mostly thinking of Lorne Armstrong on that one, and I'm not sure if being prohibited from using the internet might've been due to his repeated failure of sex offender class. In any case, Chris's crime didn't take place on or relate to the internet, so I think it's exceedingly unlikely that post-release he'd have any monitoring on his internet access. In a non-jail setting like a group home I can imagine him not being allowed to use the internet if it caused him to be even more uncooperative.

 

[TheShortWaveCerealKiller]

there seems to be an influx of ppl who review Christory
and come to the conclusion that Chris may have diddled Patti
or diddled his cats/dogs in between 2014-2021

i wonder how ppl come to such conclusions?

Its just weens and spergs wanting to pile more heinous things on Chris' past for the sake of making him seem like an even more monstrous person. Which let's be real here, he doesnt need help doing so.

I think it's very likely that the group home he goes to will want to either ban or severely restrict his internet access due to not wanting to put up with weens and such. It'll be interesting to see what happens to all his internet stuff when he gets out of jail. I could potentially see them allowing him to sell his art on praetor's webpage (as long as it's nothing obscene) but I definitely can't see them allowing him to have youtube/twitter/etc .

It doubtful since as others said his crime was not because of the internet and as of this writing the internet does not pose a threat to Chris and vice versa in the eyes of the law. That can change sure but as of now its more speculation than any actual facts.

It really depends on Chris and how he acts. If he wants internet use he is going to have to prove he can be a big boy.

If that is the case he'll lose it within a week at minimum. Even if itwasnt due to his online conduct certainly due to his behavior offline. I dont see Chris taking orders / regiments of certain facilities well. Call it a hunch.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

But if Chris did have the charm and influence he wanted maybe he’d be like Jimmy Saville

Pretty much. I've mentioned the likening with Savile/Chris Chan before, and given that Chris constantly refers to himself as a 'celebrity', it wouldn't be a stretch for him do the same thing that Savile did, barring his 'tism.

 

[Dambusters' Dog II]

the Many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, in which observing a particle creates two universes, one in which it's a particle and one in which it's a wave.

You're way off on that. It's that every outcome of an experiment occurs in its own universe. So if we measure which slit a photon goes through in the two-slit experiment, in one universe it goes through the left slit, and in another universe it goes through the right slit. Similarly, if we measure the spin angular momentum of an electron in a particular direction, in one universe it's clockwise and in another it's anticlockwise. The science-fictional version of it then has that for every event, each outcome occurs in its own universe (so there's a universe where Hillary won the US presidential election in 2016 etc.).
The Everett many-worlds interpretation has always seemed like comic-book nerd bullshit to me, but it has its supporters (e.g. David Deutsch). Not a majority though. I think the standard of education among physicists has fallen (certainly among physics fans) and so people don't realise how dumb an idea it is.

 

[AnOminous]

The science-fictional version of it then has that for every event, each outcome occurs in its own universe (so there's a universe where Hillary won the US presidential election in 2016 etc.).

I think it's a little more than that, though. Consider the sheer unlikelihood of any specific person being born. It requires exactly the same sperm and egg cells. Even the slightest change in the environment would result in a different cell, i.e. an entirely different person. This would spread out as quickly as possible from even the tiny change of a person breathing in oxygen and exhaling carbon dioxide, much less doing anything significant.

If you picture space-time as a four dimensional object, the changes (which would be complete) of even which people were in the world would spread out in a four dimensional shape which would be to a cone as a tesseract is to a cube, and if you went out 100 years, you wouldn't just have a different set out outcomes, you'd have a completely different cast of characters in the entire world, doing entirely different things.

Any substantial change would inevitably result in the person who made it (by doing anything no matter how minor) ceasing to exist and the paradox solving itself.

So I just don't see something like time travel or being able to detect much less interact with alternate universes making sense at all. The theory ends up collapsing in a pile of nonsense because if you can't even see or interact with these hypothetical realities, how can they really be seen to exist, at least from any perspective from within them.

It's a fun idea for fiction but has no real practical application, since every conceivable event forecloses its alternative once it's observed.

 

[Jon Osterman]

It's a fun idea for fiction but has no real practical application, since every conceivable event forecloses its alternative once it's observed.

What fiction does is that the possibilities don't collapse into one, and that through sci-fi mumbo jumbo they can detect the other universe created. If humanity was somehow capable of detecting them (a nearly impossible feat because it would most likely require 4th dimensional comprehension), then the theory would actually have some use and not just be a fun thought (like last thursdayism or that we're all living in the matirx). I'm sure if you presented all this to Chris he'd just scoff and say that's not how it works and make up his own nonsensical structure.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

The perineum slicing, was that troll induced, or an original thought?

I was around for that, and it seemed organic at the time, but did somebody talk Chris into making a vagina?

IIRC at the time he was really into binaral beat videos on YouTube and thought it was magic where he could listen to them and it could do things like give him a vagina or let him run as fast as Sonic (I think it might have actually been a Cheetah in the video he watched) and assumedly he thought he would cut it open and find a vagina.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Like I said, paradise to that incestuous egomaniac freak could be living in The Adventures of the American Rabbit and The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog where he's the center of attention. No real growth, exploration, or learning. Just endless egocentric and idiotic "way past cool" wacky hijinks with corporate mascot furry characters. Along with some freakishly degenerate sex.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

IIRC at the time he was really into binaral beat videos on YouTube and thought it was magic where he could listen to them and it could do things like give him a vagina or let him run as fast as Sonic (I think it might have actually been a Cheetah in the video he watched) and assumedly he thought he would cut it open and find a vagina.

Yea he thought he was growing one naturally and wanted to help it along, he was drunk when he did it and was bummed when some lesbians said to him "But you haven't got a vagina".

That make me wonder how much of his current state and doing some of the more weird things by his standards was down to him drinking, like when he punched holes in the walls etc Alcohol and other substances mixed with autism and other untreated mental health problems are a dangerous mix.

 

[Arianne Chan]

Idk where I could post this but, today I went to the clothing store and found this