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[mandatorylurk]

And the thing you guys are missing, it's not just that the he didn't pardon the 1/6ers, but he has done fuck all to rectify that since. So even if he had a good reason to not pardon them back then, he has done nothing to indicate he has changed his mind since.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should completely abandon the guy or something, because frankly there isn't anyone that is better and viable. But I'm sick of him being a complete limp dick at this point. He has had unprecedented opportunity and has all but squandered it at this point. If Trump died today, what could you honestly say he accomplished in the last 7 years? He triggered the libs for 4 years and had a decent run as president (which was completely undone in under a year so who fucking cares). That's all his legacy is, and unless he changes course that's all it's going to be.

According to Julie Kelly, the one woman doing her best to cover the 1/6 abuses, Trump has provided money to the families, and this was mentioned in March or April. How much and what for, don't know, but that's something.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Even Charlie Brown eventually learned what Lucy was doing with the football.

Charlie Brown could still punch Lucy in the jaw.

 

[CapricornusRex]

I'm not seeing any proposals from Trump about how to fix election fraud, or anything on the issues themselves.

Yes, the Dems cheated in both 2020 and this year. We've established that. What does Trump propose we do about it?

What does this have to do with you claiming Trump was schmoozing with the two losers who showed up with Kanye at his home? Why are you changing the subject?

At least MTG was smart enough to disavow Neko Nicky when she found out who he is. Like it or not, optics absolutely matter. Lie down with faggots, get AIDS.

She had to. Unlike Trump, this dipshit was part of the America First conferences.

It will die even more ignominiously if Trump keeps giving his ear to retards.

Maybe I am wrong to think DeSantis is the heir. I've been wrong before. But Trump is sabotaging his re-election chances. Continuing to pal around with Kanye and Catboy is guaranteed suicide.

And here you are, continuing to make shit up. All Trump did was honor a single fucking dinner with Kanye from September and he brought two dorks, unannounced, with him Trump didn't give a shit about. Did faggot fuentes even get a picture with Trump from his "schmoozing" and "Paling around"? Or did he get the same treatment any unwanted house guest gets?

 

[derpherp2]

Wasn’t that first Biden/Trump debate basically…that?

Does it really count if the mediator was the one doing the debating while Biden stroked off for like 40 minutes?

 

[Potatoherder]

All this Desantis talk is moot anyways. The republican party needs to die on the federal level. As we just saw, yet again, mitch the bitch will give the dems everything they want. Until the party is cleaned up of the cucks like him it won't matter. DeSantis could win with 70% of the vote, both the house and senate getting super-majorities, and the first thing republicans would do is denounce their base and do everything the democrats wanted.

I'll vote for Trump because i like him. People still don't get that. He may fuck up but has never once called me a racist. Every other republican either has or will and that includes desantis.

 

[mandatorylurk]

These things lost actual merit for the past 20 years. It should be Musk but since he had it last year I can easily see it as DeSantis to force more fighting. They had to reluctantly give it to Trump in 2016, deliberately picked anyone but him again for 4 years (journalists won one year), so this would be some Ben Shapiro talking point "see? DeSantis is man of the year!"

 

[George Lucas]

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These things lost actual merit for the past 20 years. It should be Musk but since he had it last year I can easily see it as DeSantis to force more fighting. They had to reluctantly give it to Trump in 2016, deliberately picked anyone but him again for 4 years (journalists won one year), so this would be some Ben Shapiro talking point "see? DeSantis is man of the year!"

Of course it's going to be DeSantis.

The solution is obvious. The only way forward is the complete dismantling of the Republican party.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

What boggles my mind the most isn't that people are turning on Trump, or even that they think DeSantis is the future. It's the fact they think there will still be a political "savior".

We tried a relative "no name" with Obama. It didn't happen.

We tried a relative "outsider" with Trump. It didn't happen.

The idea that people honestly believe DeSantis is going to be the guy to push change? I'm not mad, I'm disappointed. Whatever awakening I thought was happening with people was apparently me just being a stupid optimist.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

Yes, the Dems cheated in both 2020 and this year. We've established that. What does Trump propose we do about it?

States have authority over how they run their elections, buddy. Invoking the spectre of federal oversight is a nightmare scenario that, at least currently, would benefit no one but the DNC.

In the competitive elections, Kent, Mastriano, Lake, Masters, and other good candidates he backed lost.

The lifeblood of competitive races is money, especially in the home stretch. Which candidates in competitive races were starved of money and support in the last few weeks before the election by the RNC and the GOPe? I'll give you a hint, you just listed them above. Let's not even get into week-long vote counting shenanigans.

He had the chance to stop mail-in voting for federal elections (state and local is another matter) while in office but instead chose to do nothing.

Why didn't Trump have the prescience to know that, despite actually winning more votes than any presidential candidate ever, state-run voting apparatuses and legislatures would enable even more rampant cheating and that the courts would rule against any attempt to remedy this by ruling against his every effort -both pre- and post-election- on procedural and not evidentiary grounds? I doubt he'll make that same mistake a second time, but we shall see.

As for all of this 'Trump wants to destroy the Constitution' fearmongering, maybe you all need to read the preamble to the Constitution, where extra-legal ways to remove and replace an unjust regime are explicitly praised. Nowhere in the Constitution is a Republican and Federal form of government accomplished through direct democratic voting labelled as necessary. God grants us the right of revolt, btw, and no government can take it away.

It's worth noting that this same right is explicitly guaranteed in over a dozen state constitutions, including New Hampshire, Kentucky, Texas, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.

Nothing says that this alteration or abolishment of an unjust regime can only be accomplished through the ballot box.

 

[SBG]

Lot of neocons crying about Trump saying there was fraud in 2020. So I’m guessing they’re less than eager to fix anything.

 

[make_it_so]

What boggles my mind the most isn't that people are turning on Trump, or even that they think DeSantis is the future. It's the fact they think there will still be a political "savior".

We tried a relative "no name" with Obama. It didn't happen.

We tried a relative "outsider" with Trump. It didn't happen.

The idea that people honestly believe DeSantis is going to be the guy to push change? I'm not mad, I'm disappointed. Whatever awakening I thought was happening with people was apparently me just being a stupid optimist.

An important message that @Null posted on Poa.st a few days ago, while we were all laughing at Ye's gimp-masked puppet show on Alex Jones.

josh (@josh@poa.st)

I hope that Trump, Elon, Kanye, and Nick have taught people a valuable lesson: This is not a movie. There is no protagonist. No hero is going to swoop in and save the day. The most prominent peop...

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[Paul Pelosi's Boyfriend]

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josh (@josh@poa.st)

I hope that Trump, Elon, Kanye, and Nick have taught people a valuable lesson: This is not a movie. There is no protagonist. No hero is going to swoop in and save the day. The most prominent peop...

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HYDRA DOMINATUS

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Of course it's going to be DeSantis.

The solution is obvious. The only way forward is the complete dismantling of the Republican party.

This is the best and only proper take on the matter.

 

[Breadbassket]

This is the best and only proper take on the matter.

What could it be replaced with exactly?

 

[ForTheHoard]

I voted for Trump because he was supposed to be the bull in the China shop. He was supposed to break all the D.C. beurocrats toys and he did an okay job at it. I dont trust Republicans, and I have no desire to vote for them. For the issues I care most about, there's little to no difference in the two parties. If the Republicans path forward is McCarthy/McConnell leadership in the legislature with Romney/McCain leadership in the executive, they can enjoy that journey without me. After the McCarthy/McConnel shit, I'm thinking of not voting in '24 and it would be the first election I ever missed. If Republicans refuse to be reformed, then fuck them. They can die off.

Spare me the lesser of two evils shit. That's why we're in the position we are now. Let the socialists run the show for a while and bleed the country dry. Then people might have a renewed interest in liberty.

 

[SBG]

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josh (@josh@poa.st)

I hope that Trump, Elon, Kanye, and Nick have taught people a valuable lesson: This is not a movie. There is no protagonist. No hero is going to swoop in and save the day. The most prominent peop...

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The figurehead isn’t as relevant as the movement or system they represent.

So it wouldn't make much difference what sort of slander was tossed their way so long as the movement/system still supported them. Fetterman was brain damaged and was mocked constantly for it, yet could still be carried across the finish line because he had a party that supported him.

What you see when the GOP starts clutching its pearls about Trump is them actively being against supporting him or his positions. If they were aligned with Trump's politics then they wouldn't be searching for random excuses to complain about him. The figurehead thing is a copout to avoid congress, governors, or any Republican politician having to take responsibility for their own actions or inaction, because they like the idea of saying the reason they fucked up or didn't do anything is because Trump or whoever else wasn't good enough to have his positions be absorbed by them through osmosis.

 

[derpherp2]

What could it be replaced with exactly?

Nothing.
If they want the system to be broken, then let it be broken. See how long the fucking parasites last.

 

[The Last Stand]

I'll be voting for Kanye probably. Because this shit isn't going to get fixed until it's broken, otherwise I'm voting local and NPA from now on. DeSantis will ~somehow~ win the GOP pres primary and he'll ~somehow~ win 2024, though, I bet.

And that's the problem with our current political system. Any idiot can run and people will rally instead of solving problems. And I had this same thought when Trump won 2016.

 

[AnotherPleb]

And that's the problem with our current political system. Any idiot can run and people will rally instead of solving problems. And I had this same thought when Trump won 2016.

If the people are not allowed to choose who they can elect then you get the EU in America. Is that really the future you want?

 

[MrJokerRager]

Arizona is going to certify its fraudulent election results.

Running away to red states won't solve anything at this point.