Boomer Hate Thread

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Boomers got to grow up in the greatest period of economic growth and stability ever experienced by any group of humans anywhere at any time. They got to either waste their youth doing drugs and having wild sex or genuinely try and change the world in the greatest period of social change ever seen. By the time they woke up and smelled the nightmare, Reagan and his coalition of Neolibs, batshit insane religious demagogues (that jesus would have done much more than whip if he came back circa 1985), and business magnates promised another period of easy economic growth, that they could slot right into without any trouble and "get theirs." All they had to do was hand over control of society, the economy, their home life, and the environment to the big money men. Why, these big money men make so much money, and the government has so obviously ruined everything, why don't we just let the big money men run it all? Let them make the policy, let them vote with their wallet, it's only fair, they earned that blood money fair and square.

They transitioned from hippie to yuppie, and began raising a generation of latchkey kids, who actively watched their parents become "lame" and "sell out." These kids grew up to either bury themselves in consumerist nostalgia because their parents straight up failed at preparing them for adulthood, or they grew up conscious enough to hate their parents and either become euphoric atheists or the exact sort of strawman lefty college student that their parents feared and hated.

These kids, Gen X, even more consistently failed to parent their children, and at this point, we all know what millennials are like. The early ones bathed themselves in reality television and 2000s consumerism. The late ones saw the brick wall coming, and realizing the wealth their grandparents stole and their parents failed to steal back was not going to trickle down to them as was promised, became the most bitter and disenfranchised generation in American history.

So now the consequences of the 80s are rearing their ugly heads. Policies repealed in an effort to loosen the economy are now proving their worth posthumously, with banking corporations taking not even 30 years to repeat nearly the exact same mistakes that led to the great depression. The American economy survived, but not with surgery and physical therapy. No, the doctors gave it a double shot of adrenaline, a hit of morphine, and sold America on the lie that this was a fix. The economy limped along, visibly wounded, never truly recovered. The culture too, has been broken. Hard work is no longer a virtue, it is an expectation, and not with the idea that you are sacrificing your comfort for the benefit of your dependents or posterity. It is expected so that maybe you too can get a piece of the pie, fuck everyone else. Fuck having a family, it'll only slow you down. Kids can be put in daycare, hell there's a good chance the company you work for has one right in the building. Fuck leaving something for your kids, you got yours, and they'll have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps anyway.

And so now, with the ugliest cocktail of circumstance ever devised in living memory, we come upon Gen Z. The jury is still out, but judging by the fact that the last 3 generations have been all unique brands of horrible, it's not looking good. Maybe the resource wars will knock enough sense into us to save something resembling a society, but I doubt it. God help Gen Z, inheritors of a broken culture, a dying economy, and no one to look up to. The millenials are too self absorbed to care about anything, Gen X failed to rebel against their parents in any way that mattered, and the Boomers stole any generational wealth that might have survived to the Zoomers, and they're not even dead yet.
 
Boomers got to grow up in the greatest period of economic growth and stability ever experienced by any group of humans anywhere at any time. They got to either waste their youth doing drugs and having wild sex or genuinely try and change the world in the greatest period of social change ever seen. By the time they woke up and smelled the nightmare, Reagan and his coalition of Neolibs, batshit insane religious demagogues (that jesus would have done much more than whip if he came back circa 1985), and business magnates promised another period of easy economic growth, that they could slot right into without any trouble and "get theirs." All they had to do was hand over control of society, the economy, their home life, and the environment to the big money men. Why, these big money men make so much money, and the government has so obviously ruined everything, why don't we just let the big money men run it all? Let them make the policy, let them vote with their wallet, it's only fair, they earned that blood money fair and square.

They transitioned from hippie to yuppie, and began raising a generation of latchkey kids, who actively watched their parents become "lame" and "sell out." These kids grew up to either bury themselves in consumerist nostalgia because their parents straight up failed at preparing them for adulthood, or they grew up conscious enough to hate their parents and either become euphoric atheists or the exact sort of strawman lefty college student that their parents feared and hated.

These kids, Gen X, even more consistently failed to parent their children, and at this point, we all know what millennials are like. The early ones bathed themselves in reality television and 2000s consumerism. The late ones saw the brick wall coming, and realizing the wealth their grandparents stole and their parents failed to steal back was not going to trickle down to them as was promised, became the most bitter and disenfranchised generation in American history.

So now the consequences of the 80s are rearing their ugly heads. Policies repealed in an effort to loosen the economy are now proving their worth posthumously, with banking corporations taking not even 30 years to repeat nearly the exact same mistakes that led to the great depression. The American economy survived, but not with surgery and physical therapy. No, the doctors gave it a double shot of adrenaline, a hit of morphine, and sold America on the lie that this was a fix. The economy limped along, visibly wounded, never truly recovered. The culture too, has been broken. Hard work is no longer a virtue, it is an expectation, and not with the idea that you are sacrificing your comfort for the benefit of your dependents or posterity. It is expected so that maybe you too can get a piece of the pie, fuck everyone else. Fuck having a family, it'll only slow you down. Kids can be put in daycare, hell there's a good chance the company you work for has one right in the building. Fuck leaving something for your kids, you got yours, and they'll have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps anyway.

And so now, with the ugliest cocktail of circumstance ever devised in living memory, we come upon Gen Z. The jury is still out, but judging by the fact that the last 3 generations have been all unique brands of horrible, it's not looking good. Maybe the resource wars will knock enough sense into us to save something resembling a society, but I doubt it. God help Gen Z, inheritors of a broken culture, a dying economy, and no one to look up to. The millenials are too self absorbed to care about anything, Gen X failed to rebel against their parents in any way that mattered, and the Boomers stole any generational wealth that might have survived to the Zoomers, and they're not even dead yet.
Nice thing about the Zoomers is they can see what a disaster the economy is for them, and they're not really playing by the rules. I forget what it was called, but there was that TikTok trend that was big a few months ago where Zoomers basically said "if you're paying us the bare minimum, we're going to work the bare minimum," a modern form of "they pretend to pay us, we pretend to work."
 
Nice thing about the Zoomers is they can see what a disaster the economy is for them, and they're not really playing by the rules. I forget what it was called, but there was that TikTok trend that was big a few months ago where Zoomers basically said "if you're paying us the bare minimum, we're going to work the bare minimum," a modern form of "they pretend to pay us, we pretend to work."
"act your wage" is the best advice I've ever heard given.
 
Nice thing about the Zoomers is they can see what a disaster the economy is for them, and they're not really playing by the rules. I forget what it was called, but there was that TikTok trend that was big a few months ago where Zoomers basically said "if you're paying us the bare minimum, we're going to work the bare minimum," a modern form of "they pretend to pay us, we pretend to work."
I think they're calling it "quiet quitting". It's between working the bare minimum and working to rule. No going above and beyond, working to your contractual job description and no more.
It's the right idea, imo, why bust your ass for a company who would replace you with someone cheaper or with more diversity points in a heartbeat? Loyalty to your work or company is not repaid or appreciated anyway, and certainly doesn't cut both ways.
 
Nice thing about the Zoomers is they can see what a disaster the economy is for them, and they're not really playing by the rules. I forget what it was called, but there was that TikTok trend that was big a few months ago where Zoomers basically said "if you're paying us the bare minimum, we're going to work the bare minimum," a modern form of "they pretend to pay us, we pretend to work."
That actually is playing by the rules though. "You get what you pay for." Or even go to the Bible: "And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire." Frankly if you give an employer (or anyone) more than they're compensating you for, you're not only cheating yourself but everyone else similarly situated by endorsing theft.

An employer is only entitled to what they pay, and if an employee gives more, it should be in the expectation of future advancement or other advantage. Work isn't a charity on either side. An employee who is paid but does not work is just as equally cheating the employer.

If you don't respect yourself, why would you expect anyone else to respect you?
Loyalty to your work or company is not repaid or appreciated anyway, and certainly doesn't cut both ways.
I'll note there are exceptions, unfortunately very few these days. If you find that kind of a job, though, you should indeed be willing to go above and beyond.
 
Seeing some pictures of 1970's era NYC brought me back to this thread. The boomers trashed that city so bad it was beyond belief. The ''clean up efforts'' of it were not by boomers but by older generations. The 1980's Reagan lead 'moral majority' was I believe an attempt to keep them in line. The 1970's should show you what they were capable of creating while off their leash.
 
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Even the CCP can't seem to get a handle on the Zoomers. Chinese Zoomers are doing their own version of "quiet quitting" called "lying flat."
And as fucked up as Japanese hikikomori are, they are just opting out of a raw deal. Maybe their society should offer a better deal actually worth taking.
 
And as fucked up as Japanese hikikomori are, they are just opting out of a raw deal. Maybe their society should offer a better deal actually worth taking.
Even the CCP can't seem to get a handle on the Zoomers. Chinese Zoomers are doing their own version of "quiet quitting" called "lying flat."
Asian culture in those countries is really fucked up. You are expected to give 200%. Your job and wage is what you are worth. You are not seen as a person who has needs, you are a slave who needs to make money.

Also elders are seen as super wise, and their egos are through the roof. They treat everyone like shit and think they're big shit cause they worked 20 years doing whatever. You think boomers are bad, lol?
 
Asian culture in those countries is really fucked up. You are expected to give 200%. Your job and wage is what you are worth. You are not seen as a person who has needs, you are a slave who needs to make money.
No wonder US companies had such erections for Japanese corporate methods in the 80's.....
 
Seeing some pictures of 1970's era NYC brought me back to this thread. The boomers trashed that city so bad it was beyond belief. The ''clean up efforts'' of it were not by boomers but by older generations. The 1980's Reagan lead 'moral majority' was I believe an attempt to keep them in line. The 1970's should show you what they were capable of creating while off their leash.
But blame Black people for the start of that.
 
not even that. new york was always a cesspool for crime regardless of what race the person was. didnt matter if you were black, gay, irish, italian, or whatever. you could always be a scumfuck in that city
I miss that. Now even being a millionaire means you're too poor to live in Manhattan.
 
The hubris of youth on full display. Blissfully unaware that they will one day be judged the same way.
Let the young grow old before telling them LOL, I know you are but what am I? With the way the world's going, how many idiots are going to get enough healthcare to keep them alive in dementia? The state of the modern world reminds me of a story involving some animal caretakers killing an old, infertile giraffe bull because it wouldn't allow the younger giraffe bulls to breed and had already killed two or three of them.
 
I love making boomer heads explode when I explain to them that being a godless commie IS my ethnic heritage and family tradition that I'm reconnecting with and honouring and staying true to. In the workingmen's club in my grandfather's mining town they even have a big old banner hung up reading 'For Peace and Socialism'. The region my family and ancestors came from is the birthplace of socialism. We have many explicitly left-wing folk songs.
Not a boomer, but I would unironically kill myself if my heritage was that deeply into socialism and leftist bullshit
There is definitely far too much of the nu-male, leftist bitching and complaining in this thread, with predictable talking points:
"*Sigh*, if the boomers would have just unionized..."
"They had it so good, now we have nothing..."
"Fuck boomers for allowing the corporate elites to take everything!"

While I absolutely agree that baby boomers generally suck (not all of them, obviously), a too large chunk of this thread is like that of a comedy of retarded children bitching and moaning about how bad things are and how a redistribution of wealth is the answer.

The only thing that has truly gotten worse in our part of the world is the cultural and societal rot, to which there is an incredible array of explanatory factors. To blame one particular generation of humans for the current state of being is incredibly retarded, even though it is true that the boomerish mentality is a repulsive one. The only thing that sets apart boomers from previous likeminded generations in the history of mankind is of course the great economic growth and economic development they got to experience, combined with a somewhat sane and stable sociological environment; exogenous factors for which the boomers themselves are hardly to blame for having experienced or having been affected by. Just hearing your average Millennial or Gen Z-cunt bawl their eyes out over whatever and shifting blame unto others should be enough to convince you that the boomerish mentality isn't unique to one generation, and that things will just become worse in the future.

Swedish (I know, I know...) psychiatrist David Eberhard wrote a great book about how it is our inherent need for security and comfort which is really to blame for the current predicaments in society. The book isn't awfully well written unfortunately, and is quite repetitive, but from a societal viewpoint Eberhard really makes a great case for his arguments. I don't know if there's an english translation to the book, but I doubt it. It got a revision in 2021, where Eberhard refines his talking points and provides more examples to underscore his arguments, and among other things he lambasts the worlds governments for their treatment of Covid-19 and the lockdowns, with the lockdowns being a clear example of comfort addiction, born out of people becoming pussies, which I definitely don't believe is something the boomers can be blamed for.

To then have some lousy, wildly uneducated peasant dipshit come along and propose that communustic values are the answer to our woes is nothing short of fucking insulting. It just goes to show that the temptation for socialist idiocy will never go away, no matter what era we live in.

The one thing that is true is that economic divergence, both between and inside countries, is very likely going to become worse, and that there are no good answers of what to do about it. Giving governments the responsibility to redistribute income from the upper echelons of society more than they're already doing won't be the success story Sealbaby's dipshit relatives thinks it will be, and proposing for youths to moan and complain on fucking TikTok won't make things better either. Who's idea was it that employees are the enemy anyway? At least chinese youth have shit to truly complain about.

What are the limits to how fucking dumb can these cunts become? If the economic policy makers of the future are the likes of Thomas Piketty and Kate Raworth, we're doomed. Doubly so if autistic cunts like Greta Thunberg and her ilk gets into positions of power when they outgrow their diapers.
 
I miss that. Now even being a millionaire means you're too poor to live in Manhattan.
Not really. Just depends on how you want to live and what matters to you.
I just found 162 listings (on realtor.com) in NYC within a mile of 10021 (nicest part of UES) with rent under $3000 (which is about, going by general rule of thumb* of 30% of gross, $120,000/year). 85 under $2500/mo. Here's a 1br 1ba on 77th not too far east for $1950. Nope, no in-unit laundry but 2 levels and trees for privacy, exposed brick, hw floors (unfortunately they neutered the fp). Probably a walk up but still.

316 E 77th St, New York
$1,950/mo · 1beds · 1baths

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For that, it's not that much more than it was 20 years ago. It's not what a suburbanite would idealize, and obvs not for a full family, but then little in Manhattan ever has been.

(I used to work with a guy that liked to say that the price of a studio in Manhattan basically keeps pace with the typical biglaw first year salary; I see Milbank bumped 1st year starting to $215k nearly a year ago, and I assume many others have followed suit (of course cravath); at 30% gross, that would be around $5400/mo so; at a more reasonable 20% it's still $3600/mo. All that to say, some salaries appear to have outpaced that little rule of thumb.)

*seems high to me, and it's an outer threshold, but Manhattan is often at even higher rates than those bc it just is.
 
This is an amazing thread. The hubris of youth on full display. Blissfully unaware that they will one day be judged the same way.
Not even mad. Felt a bit nostalgic tbh.
The only thing young people are truly angry at is that they couldn't be the ones to sell out future generations instead.
Swedish (I know, I know...) psychiatrist David Eberhard wrote a great book about how it is our inherent need for security and comfort which is really to blame for the current predicaments in society.
If you hate security and comfort so much, feel free to go live in the woods, mountains, or San Francisco.
 
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