Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[AssignedEva]

Damn, shame on me.
Outsmarted by the Tube ; it's "Ockams razor' all over again.
I should have known he wouln't be caught slippin' on something like that.

ugh his red carpet shit. surely it wont be for the Nebula thing though.

The way he is like '"happy to be led by you on budget!"-

He thinks this makes him look all affinity with creatives, solidarity &respect for artist labour.
When, in fact it just shows him out of touch in a climate where pretty much everybody is genuinely struggling badly now; somehow both noveau-riche whilst being normal already rich, the tasteless guy flinging blank cheques at his vanity that he is.

It should need to cost a packet, but only cos they are gonna need that much material to rig over his shoulders.

This will be the perfect opportunity for someone new to skin him for a load though, lol.

He is the ideal client for a bitchy chancer / a crisis-moment, habited up tearaway designer with no time who fully intends to spend the budget on coke -

loads of ego to appeal to to skin him for the maximum, and the fact you cant lose because no one important is gonna see him, and he so regularly looks terrible in everything so there is no higher point of comparison-
the bar is literally on the floor, & to anyone who did somehow catch sight of it, you can just say 'what could i do babes, look what I'm working with

oh and the fact that he thinks he looks amazing in any horror that he's earning so he'll be happy with whatever you throw at him, so long as you make it with at least a single element to appeal to his fetishism.

dream job


maybe it is an actual event, with a fair chance that someone might see this on him? Im just wondering why Brian didnt hook him up with someone?
He either doesnt want to inflict that on anyone he knows (sorry babes, everyones rammed!)

OR more likely, Tube has no intention of actually finding anyone amongst his twitter followership of trans furries and beardos in sarcastic teeshirts:
merely posting to announce that he was going to a premier-
Narc supply so calorific, that he can nibble it way in advance of the main feed around the actual event.

What he probably wants is some really interesting up and coming designer to do him some jaw dropping conceptual outfit so he can be papped as "best dressed" on the red carpet for some column inches, and he can brag about "oh darling, it's a bespoke piece by Weinsanto, you must check him out, he just got a little feature in Vogue~~"

Bonus points if it's a trans designer (I'd say "queer" but you'd trip over gay men who work in womenswear).

What will probably happen, given his paltry level of fame, miserly budget and the time frame he's working with (two months is not exactly a long time for an in demand designer to throw together a bespoke piece and do all the fittings for some Literally Who) is just a bog standard dressmaker, maybe someone who's currently an undergraduate at London College of Fashion or Goldsmiths (or any number of jobbing designers - fashion houses employ lots of freelancers and junior designers to put together pieces for their collections under instruction from the creative director).

Don't get me wrong, a talented seamstress with an eye for proportion might actually stitch him something that fits and is moderately flattering. It's just not going to provide the level of cachet he's imagining here.

Really? I'm pretty certain that's exactly what it is. What other red carpet event would he be getting invited to?

Maybe Django? It had a global premiere (of the first two episodes) at the Rome Film festival in October. They might be doing a big glossy launch in NYC in Feb due to the nunber of big names; it's slated to be coming to Sky Atlantic in "early 2023" and Sky does do red carpet launches of some prestige TV shows (they had one for House of the Dragons back in August).

 

[Excited Eraser]

Maybe Django? It had a global premiere (of the first two episodes) at the Rome Film festival in October. They might be doing a big glossy launch in NYC in Feb due to the nunber of big names; it's slated to be coming to Sky Atlantic in "early 2023" and Sky does do red carpet launches of some prestige TV shows (they had one for House of the Dragons back in August).

Speaking of Django, Olly's name has been on the cast list of the Wikipedia article about that show since the page was made (without a character name): https://web.archive.org/web/20210710174108/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(TV_series)

But around November this year his name was removed. I don't know why but my hopes of him just being left on the cutting room floor are still alive. Even if that doesn't happen, currently imdb lists him as being in the pilot episode only, along with a long list of other randoms. There are some people who appear in 2 episodes, and then even fewer in more. So it seems the show starts out grandiose in scope and then puts the focus on the group of main characters from episode 2 onwards. I have no idea how Olly spent that much time on location for being nothing more than a glorified extra. At least his character has a credited name.

Edit: for extra fun, on imdb his Chivalry credit is simply 'Audience Member'. He kept referring to his role as "American journalist" of course.

 

[Tombigbee]

Alice is under anon attack! But Abigail has his back! Tranny twinz powers activate!



So we’ve got it all wrong on Alice. His religion is, like, “super important” to him. Take that!

And slow clap on the weight loss email troll for Oliver. Which one of you, hmmm? Take a bow.

Spoiler

In fairness some of the anon comments are pretty mean

 

[Mudkipcorn]

Alice is under anon attack! But Abigail has his back! Tranny twinz powers activate!

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So we’ve got it all wrong on Alice. His religion is, like, “super important” to him. Take that!

And slow clap on the weight loss email troll for Oliver. Which one of you, hmmm? Take a bow.

Spoiler

In fairness some of the anon comments are pretty mean

Great start to the day.

The fact that his (Alice, the Muslim LARPer) comment on all this hate is to attack feminists speaks volumes. Does he really believe that all these rude comments spring from feminism? I have no idea. I know he is very currentyear ironic, but this irony is impossible to parse. I'll assume he actually is suggesting all these comments come from the dreaded Terfine race.

That's absurd. This is internet hate. Personally, I look down on people who submit these kinds of comments because, after reaching the age of 15, I came to realize attacking people like Alice (people, who are absurd and dumb and sinister but not actually, so far as we know, hurting anyone in any direct way), is childish and stupid and a sign of poor character. It's a-loggery. I think it's much more respectable and VALID to just gossip on Kiwifarms.

Anyway, it's internet hate. And there's no suggestion in the posts he's screencapped that the posters are female or even feminists. I'd wager many or most (if they're real) come from rightoid men. But he blames the TERFs.

What the fuck is he suggesting? I don't know, but it sounds very much like AGP misogyny, i.e normal misogyny with extra steps.

No comment on Olly's response but to say that this long-standing Tumblr-Twitter meme of cens*ring certain w0rds infuriates me more than I'd like to admit.

 

[grapeshark77]

Speaking of Django, Olly's name has been on the cast list of the Wikipedia article about that show since the page was made (without a character name): https://web.archive.org/web/20210710174108/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(TV_series)

But around November this year his name was removed. I don't know why but my hopes of him just being left on the cutting room floor are still alive. Even if that doesn't happen, currently imdb lists him as being in the pilot episode only, along with a long list of other randoms. There are some people who appear in 2 episodes, and then even fewer in more. So it seems the show starts out grandiose in scope and then puts the focus on the group of main characters from episode 2 onwards. I have no idea how Olly spent that much time on location for being nothing more than a glorified extra. At least his character has a credited name.

Edit: for extra fun, on imdb his Chivalry credit is simply 'Audience Member'. He kept referring to his role as "American journalist" of course.

Found a couple of Italian websites reviewing the first 2 episodes from the premiere - this amused me, whatever role he has is nowhere near what he made it out to be.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Great start to the day.

The fact that his (Alice, the Muslim LARPer) comment on all this hate is to attack feminists speaks volumes. Does he really believe that all these rude comments spring from feminism? I have no idea. I know he is very currentyear ironic, but this irony is impossible to parse. I'll assume he actually is suggesting all these comments come from the dreaded Terfine race.

That's absurd. This is internet hate. Personally, I look down on people who submit these kinds of comments because, after reaching the age of 15, I came to realize attacking people like Alice (people, who are absurd and dumb and sinister but not actually, so far as we know, hurting anyone in any direct way), is childish and stupid and a sign of poor character. It's a-loggery. I think it's much more respectable and VALID to just gossip on Kiwifarms.

Anyway, it's internet hate. And there's no suggestion in the posts he's screencapped that the posters are female or even feminists. I'd wager many or most (if they're real) come from rightoid men. But he blames the TERFs.

What the fuck is he suggesting? I don't know, but it sounds very much like AGP misogyny, i.e normal misogyny with extra steps.

No comment on Olly's response but to say that this long-standing Tumblr-Twitter meme of cens*ring certain w0rds infuriates me more than I'd like to admit.

Yeah, that’s awful stuff to send to anyone outside of actual murderers- and even then it’s still a pointless poisonous excercise.

But UGH can you believe Olly?
“My haters actually put effort in, it was so much wOrse than yours babe ngl. Better class of hater, what can I say.”

Surely Alice must be getting sick of him popping up with these asides to the self, on everything he posts on any platform?

I’m also starting to get the distinct impression that he was Choobing in Romania at his own expense..

 

[A Dark Day Indeed]

Alice is under anon attack! But Abigail has his back! Tranny twinz powers activate!

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So we’ve got it all wrong on Alice. His religion is, like, “super important” to him. Take that!

And slow clap on the weight loss email troll for Oliver. Which one of you, hmmm? Take a bow.

Spoiler

In fairness some of the anon comments are pretty mean

Hmm. You know, if it had been one of us Alice-enjoyers, I feel like it would have been both crueller and funnier, going into detail about his many egregious physical flaws.

This doesn’t do that. It doesn’t go into detail about anything besides the actual fact that he’s trans and pretending to be muslim. In fact, it sounds strangely like fantasy fodder for an autogynephile with a pronounced humiliation fetish.

What are the odds that it was sent to an autogynephile who is also outspoken about his humiliation fetish? Crazy.

Additionally, holy shit finally some old school narc PhilosophyTube content. This response might be in the top five PeTey moments of all time for me. Absolute classic. This is why I can’t quit him.

 

[The Jackal]

So we’ve got it all wrong on Alice. His religion is, like, “super important” to him. Take that!

I don't know why Olly thinks this is a good argument. Yes, Alice's fetish is very important to him. And what? The fact that he takes pretending to be a muslim woman seriously doesn't make him worthy of anyone's sympathy.

In fairness some of the anon comments are pretty mean

I'd feel more sorry for him if he didn't have such a long record of saying nasty and indefensible shit on the Internet himself.

The fact that his (Alice, the Muslim LARPer) comment on all this hate is to attack feminists speaks volumes. Does he really believe that all these rude comments spring from feminism?

It really is so telling that he said that. He just hates women because he can't be one and it all comes out when he gets a few mean comments online.

But around November this year his name was removed. I don't know why but my hopes of him just being left on the cutting room floor are still alive.

Found a couple of Italian websites reviewing the first 2 episodes from the premiere - this amused me, whatever role he has is nowhere near what he made it out to be.

Oh god - if Olly splashes out on some hideous over-priced cocktail dress and flies out to New York for the première and it turns out he's not even in it... That would just make my whole year.

 

[scathefire]

It seems like he's been having trouble getting any acting jobs other than bit parts. Not just as minor characters, but literally characters that only show up for like one scene and have three lines of dialogue. I'll admit that this is probably a common problem for most actors, but Olly constantly exaggerates his gigs and acts like he's not always playing almost-extras. Remember how much he hyped up his one scene-wonder in Ladhood, where he played a troon who doesn't pass? And now with Django, he probably barely did anything and yet he's been hyping this role up for like a year now.

 

[AfghanBlue]

It seems like he's been having trouble getting any acting jobs other than bit parts. Not just as minor characters, but literally characters that only show up for like one scene and have three lines of dialogue. I'll admit that this is probably a common problem for most actors, but Olly constantly exaggerates his gigs and acts like he's not always playing almost-extras. Remember how much he hyped up his one scene-wonder in Ladhood, where he played a troon who doesn't pass? And now with Django, he probably barely did anything and yet he's been hyping this role up for like a year now.

His agent has done a hell of a job getting him even those.
Yes, we all don’t like him, he’s a terrible narcissist, bla bla- but being coldly objective- the poor fucker just can’t actually act.

That’s the long and short of it. I guess he wAnted a job with lots of adulation.. he has even less music talent so that’s out- soldiering too, his one time interest; well I’m sorry, but you need, on life and death, to be able to get on with your group of lads… and we all know how that will have gone down. So does he.

So, acting. Benefit in that he can afford to hang around basically doing it on his own dime.

I suppose YouTuber just isn’t Classic Fame enough. Dress it up in the trappings of respectability, academe that he did.
But deep down he’s too much of a snob to appreciate his success there.. marked in the appalling way he speaks to his fans.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Oh Tube.
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LOL he’s deleted the insane narc reply to Alice- either that, or Alice deleted the post he replied to- whilst keeping up lots of similar such reposts/replies to the same kind of abuse, meaning either
Olly realised what a skeevy OTT misstep it was,
Or, Alice was just like “fuck this noise, deleting this vehicle for his faux friendly concern, self aggrandisement ”.
It wasn’t I some regret about posting the abusive content, as I say he has multiple others all through his page.


Self awareness not being Tubes strong suit, I’m landing on the likelihood of Alice getting increasingly sick of his shit.

 

[Traummaschine]

Alice is under anon attack! But Abigail has his back! Tranny twinz powers activate!

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So we’ve got it all wrong on Alice. His religion is, like, “super important” to him. Take that!

And slow clap on the weight loss email troll for Oliver. Which one of you, hmmm? Take a bow.

Spoiler

In fairness some of the anon comments are pretty mean

Wow, 4 mean messages on the internet. He must be super important.

 

[fax machine]

Hmm. You know, if it had been one of us Alice-enjoyers, I feel like it would have been both crueller and funnier, going into detail about his many egregious physical flaws.

This doesn’t do that. It doesn’t go into detail about anything besides the actual fact that he’s trans and pretending to be muslim. In fact, it sounds strangely like fantasy fodder for an autogynephile with a pronounced humiliation fetish.

What are the odds that it was sent to an autogynephile who is also outspoken about his humiliation fetish? Crazy.

I can believe that real women, or at least real teenage girls from lolcow.farm, sent those messages. Tumblr's anonymous ask function is a magnet for derangement and low effort spite.

That said, I can't feel sorry for Alice because 1) he's a grown ass senior citizen of the Internet, 2) he can disable anon asks with a click, and 3) he baits for ugly messages to spin into tweets about the stupidity of his haters and the coolness of his iron skin bouncing their volley of foam darts away. The whole drama began with Alice designing a post for the express purpose of inciting engagement. He fucked around and got exactly what he wanted: 2000+ likes on the associated Twitter thread, plus dozens of followers saluting him, going lmaooo you're a mensch and they're losers! Mfer didn't even bother to rebut the people who posted seriously, without death wishes, so comfortable is he in the plush embrace of the echo chamber:



All he has to say is "tumblr" and "hysterical," and his friends know what he means: Women. God bless their silly little pearls.

Oh Tube.
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LOL he’s deleted the insane narc reply to Alice- either that, or Alice deleted the post he replied to- whilst keeping up lots of similar such reposts/replies to the same kind of abuse, meaning either
Olly realised what a skeevy OTT misstep it was,
Or, Alice was just like “fuck this noise, deleting this vehicle for his faux friendly concern, self aggrandisement ”.
It wasn’t I some regret about posting the abusive content, as I say he has multiple others all through his page.


Self awareness not being Tubes strong suit, I’m landing on the likelihood of Alice getting increasingly sick of his shit.

The tweets are still up, afaict. Alice has a strong tolerance for annoying people. He lives with himself. That's proof.

@ that ask, a diptych:



just a little influencer building her brand communicating sexual availability to encourage our parasocial relationship

... unless you don't think I'm hot. In which case I'm a Lesbian. How mad of you to believe I give a fuck about men! Sweet, sweet delusion, babe... only God knows where you found it.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

It seems like he's been having trouble getting any acting jobs other than bit parts. Not just as minor characters, but literally characters that only show up for like one scene and have three lines of dialogue. I'll admit that this is probably a common problem for most actors, but Olly constantly exaggerates his gigs and acts like he's not always playing almost-extras. Remember how much he hyped up his one scene-wonder in Ladhood, where he played a troon who doesn't pass? And now with Django, he probably barely did anything and yet he's been hyping this role up for like a year now.

Olly is all hype. He rode the immense wealth, privilege and semi-nobility he was born into through a master's degree program, a youtube talking head and now a true and honest womyn actress. All of that success, all of the privilege he enjoyed because of wealth, connections and education, just to be that mediocre, an almost-extra. He was only that available for parts because of his wealth. He was only a star in his own productions, which were vanity projects funded from his wealth. His tranny MLK speeches are only great in his own eyes. Olly is a nobody. His fellow graduates are probably heading departments of government. What is Olly doing. Living a drag show so he can get bit parts, pity casting, and forced diversity. Even a NEET would look down on him, because they know what hyped up emptiness looks like when they see it.

 

[PennyAni]

Hello! Long time/no time!

I'm thinking our old friend Joan is probably correct about the novel being Ada. It's been around 2+ years since he first mentioned it. Orlando would fit thematically but I'm old enough that I can't conceive of the Tilda Swinton film not making such a move nonsensical.

 

[Shotgun Badger]

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just a little influencer building her brand communicating sexual availability to encourage our parasocial relationship

... unless you don't think I'm hot. In which case I'm a Lesbian. How mad of you to believe I give a fuck about men! Sweet, sweet delusion, babe... only God knows where you found it.

Nothing more hilarious to me than when troons call themselves lesbians.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

Nothing more hilarious to me than when troons call themselves lesbians.

It's kind of the precise point where any notion of internal identity and physical reality collide in a ball of fire, isn't it? It's treating self-ID like Proteus from X-Men, giving any basic straight dude the power to rewrite objective reality on a whim.

 

[Nigor]

I imagine because people pressure to them to identify as non-binary. Most people who are gender non-conforming are actively being pressured to identify as a troon.

See: Eddie Izzard

 

[Peenix]

Here's to another great year of Choobing!



And a happy new year!

 

[AfghanBlue]

I’m blown away by Tube saying that he needs to pretend to be single for men to parasocially fancy him.
Like he’s an OF girl.

The idea that straight men would be into him like this is so bizarre.
I suppose he gets to never have to test this cope by being ‘lesbian’ and does actually take white van men mocking him as seriously being attracted to him.

Also who is he referring to? He did isn’t widely well known enough to have casual simps- anyone who knows who he is at all, will follow him enough to see his constant ‘ihavesex’ gf hints.
He does this quite a lot, graciously raises the curtain to explain some basic bitch marketing / psychology, to effect some phantom even dumber audience who are not reading the ‘secret peek’ alongside his paltry fanbase.

I suppose it’s just another opportunity to display what he thinks is his special intelligence.