The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

Amy appears to be part of Forspoken coming out early next year. Might be too woke, we'll see.

Ok, almost certainly too woke: "applying nail polish unlocks special abilities"
From what I’ve heard, Forspoken could be a really good enjoyable game…if you play with the game muted.
 
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With the Director's Cut of TLOU Part 2 possibly happening it makes me wonder if they're going to finally retcon Joel's Death.

Then again if they go the Zombie Joel route that could also be interesting. Have variants like what The Walking Dead had where zombies afflicted with different strains of the Wildfire virus kept some level of sentience or enhanced abilities. Hell if they turned Joel into a cross between Resident Evil 2's Birkin Monster and something like Swamp Thing that could be cool.
Why would Druckmann retcon Joel's death? TLoU2 is exactly what he wanted to do.

Also, speaking of Amy, has she done anything after getting shanked? I wasn't an active gamer during the PS2 and PS3 era but I did enjoy Legacy of Kain and Soul Reaver.
She worked on the Final Fantasy Wakanda game (Forspoken) for a bit then left for Skydance vidya division.
 
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She worked on the Final Fantasy Wakanda game (Forspoken) for a bit then left for Skydance vidya division.
I've heard the game is cringe as fuck but if she was only there for a bit... What I don't get is if she got blacklisted hard or what the hell happened, she was a known renowned writer in the sector yet she hasn't done anything for like 9 years since Last of Us? And what even is Skydance doing right now?
 
All David Cage games with the exception of Omikron: The Nomad Soul have been even smaller in scope games than the average naughty dog ones.

They're about on par with the average TellTale game or Life is Strange game with just how limited they are. They have much higher production values, but there is not a whole lot to do in them. If Druckman wants to emulate David Cage this basically means the studio will be making much smaller games than they've done in the past, this possibly might mean a quicker turnaround which all things considered might be a good thing since Naughty Dog has developed a habit of being slow. But if they're going to put a heavy focus on story it's not going to help them in the long run, every other one of Sony's studios can do a decent story and marry it to engaging gameplay. If Druckman is going to toss out gameplay in favor of doing story, it's going to wind up having the same fate as Telltale games where there's no reason to play it and what gameplay systems exist are a farce.

With another studio now handling Uncharted it's certainly looking like the other IPs that Naughty Dog has worked on will find homes elsewhere. I would not be surprised if Jak gets announced to be in development by another studio.
I mean, Druckmann's narrative abilities are below Dave Cage's so I wouldn't be surprised is he wanted to emulate the "Deep story and messaging" QD's games have.
 
I've heard the game is cringe as fuck but if she was only there for a bit... What I don't get is if she got blacklisted hard or what the hell happened, she was a known renowned writer in the sector yet she hasn't done anything for like 9 years since Last of Us? And what even is Skydance doing right now?
What are her political views? Because if it wasn’t the Hollywood approved type, I can see her getting pushed out.
 
Why would Druckmann retcon Joel's death? TLoU2 is exactly what he wanted to do.
He would only make it more gruesome. He wouldn't remove the opportunity to a kill a straight White Christian male.
 
What are her political views? Because if it wasn’t the Hollywood approved type, I can see her getting pushed out.
My understanding is she wanted to keep the pozz away from Last of Us, but don't know if it's about political views or just because she found it pandery/distracting for the setting to have Ellie tongue twister a sheboon.

Basically, best I can see is that she is one of those mean woman that aren't screeching about feminism all the time but isn't exactly right wing either. Basically a milquetoast centrist, but in today's climate that's the equivalent of a klan hood... If I were to bet, her maybe having a hard time getting anything going when she should be a darling in the sector is mostly on Cuckman going hard on his vendetta.
 
More info about Sam and Henry have been revealed:

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So it's the obvious White Supremacist group at work, chasing after Sam and Henry, for reasons, I guess?
Late on this but...


ITS THE END OF FUCKING TIMES
NO ONE 20 YEARS WOULD STILL BE GIVING A SHIT ABOUT THAT !

*scream to a pillow* FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!

I guarantee you that the "jaw drop" moment that got cut from the game was Ellie getting raped by David or another marauder or something, as Cuckmann himself did say that the HBO show would focus on "rape culture".

A good question is "Why"
Legit, why, why do this? I get that you want to spread the word that bad things happen and we gotta do something about it but we are very aware that those things happen and we try our best to keep them from happening.

But TLoU isnt the real world, the social issues we have they never got the chance to ever have or simply dont exist given the apocalyptic circunstances anymore. People are focused too much on survival and how to rebuild society than to fucking care about petty shit like that.

Then again, this is all a good faith argument, we all know that they know what they are doing.

I expect this to be the next Witcher Prequel. Man, just one conveyor belt of shit the last few months.
Pretty much all modern day diversity pushes are the result of wokeness. I don't even have to explain this. Its so self-evident even a moron like you should be able to see it. For someone who supposedly has been wallowing in wokeness, you have a hard time noticing it when it staring you in the face.


First of all, Animorphs far predates the rise of the modern woke plague. Second of all, are you really going to compare Animorphs to fucking "bigot sandwiches"?


Nope, not even fucking close. Having a trans Asian girl in a post-apocalyptic setting, who is specifically running away from a religious cult with obvious Christian undertones isn't like Animorphs, which was damn subtle in comparison. Its so on the nose, you would literally have to be braindead to not see it.


Commercialization doesn't make something any less woke. Wokeness itself has been commercialized.

I legit think he is troll baiting at this point...
Additionally, how would there be Trans people around when society has essentially not existed for a generation? Quite frankly thinking you're the opposite gender is going to not rank anywhere near the top thousand things that people would be concerned about in a world where your food supply is always in question and you're just as much at risk getting killed by other humans as you are by plant zombies.

You being trans would make you automatically a liability because it hints that you are mentally and emotionally weak/damaged.

So either you adapted out of that shit or you get left behind or you will get someone killed along with yourself

You could take any modern woke media and compare it to the likes of any anti-drug or stranger danger media for example from decades past and beat for beat it's the same. You could probably go back and watch media like Mazes and Monsters made around the time of the satanic panic and well, it's honestly no different either(and the catalyst for causing it turned out to be false as well).


You are forgetting one small tiny detail

Those were annoying sure but you can say that they ultimately had their heart in the right place. A lot of them came from ignorance rather than actually trying to deconstruct anything. They were afraid of change and, with the power of hindsight, a few of them were actually kind of justified *looks at gay marriage*

The trans and other woke movements arent born from ignorance and dont ultimately have your best interests at heart, they may clam they do but they dont. It requires you being smart to notice that shit tho and not eat the woke sludge. Its difficult to invoke occam's razor with them when there is so much evidence of the damage they are causing, and they demonstrated a lot of times that they know we hate it but they WILL do it anyway ("we are coming for your children"/"We will get you fired from your jobs just because we can", the list goes on).

So comparing both is ignoring a lot of societal and information context.

Then again, I doubt you will bother reading this or if you do, that you will actually reflect on it.

Why am I talking? I doubt you can even understand.
Druckmann is once again shit-talking anyone who didn’t like the game.
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The gif is another one of those “lol we remade a meme with out characters, aren’t we quirky?”, but it’s actually pretty horrifying to see in motion.

There is a reason why you respond these with this

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Because its true every time
 
I hate that the HBO show is probably going to do good numbers, they've been advertising on their front page of HBO Max since late October, they have a director who can at least make a pretty show, HBO not really having anything else going on at the moment and you already have the looky loos watching to see the similarities between it and the game. Druckermann gets a perfect spot to have a successful show, based on a video game he had ghost writers for. I don't remember a game coming out and it being good and literally everything after that was just so bad. The DLC, ND insistence after the fact that Ellie was gay when clearly the person who wrote her meant it to be ambiguous to some degree, ND Twitter account in general, ND going on about the majesty of video game writing, TLOU2, TLOU2 not having multiplayer, the separately sold multiplayer probably being microtranctioned to death... just ugh. Western video games are dead
 
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Hennig only did early brainstorming for Forspoken apparently. She's now working on a new game about Captain America and Black Panther. Because all roads lead to capeshit nowadays.

She also leans left from what I've heard, but doesn't seem to think she's God's gift to mankind as Drucky does. Her getting pushed out seemed like a pure power grab to me rather than any kind of political cancelling.

Also, I don't see Druck bringing Joel back unless he's forced to by Sony... and I think that's a longshot.
 
Days Gone really wasn't that good. The horde mechanic was never done right, so the zombies were not an interesting physics based threat. They were not able to pour out of holes and stack on top of each other like world war Z. Nor could you direct the mob to spill into areas and have them wear down places because they skimped out on allowing everything to be damaged and broken down. The game was ambitious on paper but in execution it was poor.

The setting and everything else wasn't unique, it felt just poorly thought out as Biomutant.

Days Gone ideally should have been third person Incredible Machine with zombies, where you use the dead hordes to solve environmental puzzles and overcome challenges while constantly being under threat of Galaxy Braining yourself into oblivion if your horde got out of control or didn't go in the direction you thought they would.

And yet, it was far better than what TLoU2 was.

Days Gone's biggest problems for me were story-related: Deacon's moral flip-flopping and blindsiding things that would absolutely set off alarm bells in any normal person's head. O'Brien tells him the zombies are beginning to evolve and the guy just doesn't give a shit. Like, what's the use in saving Sarah if you get ganked a few minutes later by a new strain of zombie?

The game also needed to be more difficult. Non-replaceable fuel cans would have certainly helped that, as well as maybe a finite camp supply of ammunition and such until later on. Also, I would have liked at least double the number of hordes if not more, with larger-size groups being more prominent in the landscape. The story talks about these massive hordes coming through along the highways from California that end up replenishing most of the zombies you kill every day, but they didn't show it. A massive pile of zombies sweeping through every night so that no area is truly safe would have been great.

As it is hordes will just vanish if you approach a camp with them, when there should really be some risk involved that could result in losing the camp.

Like I said before though, it didn't treat you like dogshit storywise and even though it can be considered "drab", it works well enough to be enjoyable.
 
So I guess the rumored Director's Cut for 2 is going to feature stuff from the show.

If season 1 is the entire first game that's not a bad length to do everything that it covered. However now HBO has shackled itself again to a creative who's work output is slow. They're going to need an entire fleet of writers if they want Season 3 to materialize sometime this decade. I can see why Druckman wants a big writing team, they're going to have to push out a game in time for a show, that's not going to be an easy task. Just look how it affected Pokemon's game quality by needing yearly or bi-yearly releases so it can sync up with a huge multimedia marketing push. I guess this seals Naughty Dog's fate to do TLOU from now until forever. At least we know their other IPs have started going to other studios.
 
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HBO Asia released these two promotional posters for the HBO TLOU show, and Drunkmann's ego is right on display again, as his name is in a larger font than the title of the show, and even larger than the HBO logo:

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Sooo...following Neil's logic.

His way to show non gamers what games are capable of is by adapting an already cinematic game into a non gaming cinematic format? Thus removing all the gaming roots from something that almost seemed like wanted to get away from being a conventional game.

Sounds stupid when I put it that way, huh?
With the Director's Cut of TLOU Part 2 possibly happening it makes me wonder if they're going to finally retcon Joel's Death.

Then again if they go the Zombie Joel route that could also be interesting. Have variants like what The Walking Dead had where zombies afflicted with different strains of the Wildfire virus kept some level of sentience or enhanced abilities. Hell if they turned Joel into a cross between Resident Evil 2's Birkin Monster and something like Swamp Thing that could be cool.

It's actually incredible how pretentious and up their own ass they're being about this TV show. I think it's even worse than TLOU2.

In a way, it is because now normies are getting involved. At least before the normie count was lower because we were talking about a video game most of them had no patience to play it. Now we are dealing with people that have only to press play on a controller.
Druckmann seixed power in the company by simply outlasting everyone else. Everyone above him left sometime between his hiring in 2003 and him becoming co president in 2018. Amy seems to have been the only one directly pushed out. Everyone else cited burnout and wanting more freedom.

Thats the stuff they tell us for PR sake, who knows what the actual reasons are.
Basically a milquetoast centrist
She also leans left from what I've heard, but doesn't seem to think she's God's gift to mankind as Drucky does. Her getting pushed out seemed like a pure power grab to me rather than any kind of political cancelling.

Lack of actively supporting "The Message" even when not speaking out against it is more than enough for them to label you the enemy. She is more akin to an old school liberal (that for today's standards are the new centrists or even right leaning centrists on a few circunstances)

Its demoralizing and cult like tactics
And yet, it was far better than what TLoU2 was.

Days Gone's biggest problems for me were story-related: Deacon's moral flip-flopping and blindsiding things that would absolutely set off alarm bells in any normal person's head. O'Brien tells him the zombies are beginning to evolve and the guy just doesn't give a shit. Like, what's the use in saving Sarah if you get ganked a few minutes later by a new strain of zombie?

The game also needed to be more difficult. Non-replaceable fuel cans would have certainly helped that, as well as maybe a finite camp supply of ammunition and such until later on. Also, I would have liked at least double the number of hordes if not more, with larger-size groups being more prominent in the landscape. The story talks about these massive hordes coming through along the highways from California that end up replenishing most of the zombies you kill every day, but they didn't show it. A massive pile of zombies sweeping through every night so that no area is truly safe would have been great.

As it is hordes will just vanish if you approach a camp with them, when there should really be some risk involved that could result in losing the camp.

Like I said before though, it didn't treat you like dogshit storywise and even though it can be considered "drab", it works well enough to be enjoyable.

Days Gone is a flawed game but it feels oddly old school in that way. Feels like a game made by people that actually know what they are doing and felt like it was one of those games that were usually followed by a VERY good sequel that fixes the original's mistakes and improves upon what it did right.

But hey, Sony doesnt want games anymore. They want interactive experiences (good luck with that, how is the PS5 doing again?)
 
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