Jim Sterling / James "Stephanie" Sterling / James Stanton/Sexton & in memoriam TotalBiscuit (John Bain) - One Gaming Lolcow Thread

I suppose you could make being bad at wrestling your whole persona maybe? Sort of like a Tommy Cooper kind of thing? He could have it so that when he does win it's through blunder, sheer size, cheating, or even magic tranny superpowers if he wanted - there'd surely be some kind of audience for that, however niche. But I can't see anyone at all wanting to go and watch just bad wrestling technique from some pressurised Yorkshire pudding batter in a bodysuit screeching about his moobs. But again, I don't know much about wrestling.
I also know fuck all about wrestling, so I don't know how accurate this comparison is, but I could have seen old Jim as a Paul Bearer-type wrestling character, where he doesn't actually wrestle but is the hype man or whatever for someone much more popular who actually knows what they're doing.

The main problem I foresee with that path is a performer like that needs to be able to live with being the butt of the joke, and given Jim's recent 'I deserve to be recognised' rant (not to mention how fucking grating the Sterdust character is) I don't think he's capable of playing second fiddle like that; not after being the lead in his own echo chamber for a decade.
 
I also know fuck all about wrestling, so I don't know how accurate this comparison is, but I could have seen old Jim as a Paul Bearer-type wrestling character, where he doesn't actually wrestle but is the hype man or whatever for someone much more popular who actually knows what they're doing.

The main problem I foresee with that path is a performer like that needs to be able to live with being the butt of the joke, and given Jim's recent 'I deserve to be recognised' rant (not to mention how fucking grating the Sterdust character is) I don't think he's capable of playing second fiddle like that; not after being the lead in his own echo chamber for a decade.
That character is a "manager", as I already mentioned, and he started as one.
 
People pay money to watch this?
Not really, no.

Not a lot of people and not a lot of money, which is why the promotions don't make money, frequently operate at a loss, and wrestlers don't get paid shit. It's not uncommon for an indie wrestling show to charge $5-10 for admission and get like a few hundred people - totaling like $3,000 which sounds good until you factor in how many people you need to put on a wrestling show (like 15-30 wrestlers, 2-4 announcers, a live stream staff, bookers, promoters, security) on top of renting out a big enough venue (which is typically a VFW Hall or High School Gym) for a long enough time - that money does not stretch far.

I also know fuck all about wrestling, so I don't know how accurate this comparison is, but I could have seen old Jim as a Paul Bearer-type wrestling character, where he doesn't actually wrestle but is the hype man or whatever for someone much more popular who actually knows what they're doing.

The main problem I foresee with that path is a performer like that needs to be able to live with being the butt of the joke, and given Jim's recent 'I deserve to be recognised' rant (not to mention how fucking grating the Sterdust character is) I don't think he's capable of playing second fiddle like that; not after being the lead in his own echo chamber for a decade.
Not many people are "pure" managers - they're typically expected to have other roles in the company. Writers, bookers, promoters, executives and so on. They can also be people who are on payroll but can't do their "main" job (wrestlers who are injured, builders/roadies who are bored, etc) or people that will work for free (Friends and Family of people who work there).
 
Not really, no.

Not a lot of people and not a lot of money, which is why the promotions don't make money, frequently operate at a loss, and wrestlers don't get paid shit. It's not uncommon for an indie wrestling show to charge $5-10 for admission and get like a few hundred people - totaling like $3,000 which sounds good until you factor in how many people you need to put on a wrestling show (like 15-30 wrestlers, 2-4 announcers, a live stream staff, bookers, promoters, security) on top of renting out a big enough venue (which is typically a VFW Hall or High School Gym) for a long enough time - that money does not stretch far.


Not many people are "pure" managers - they're typically expected to have other roles in the company. Writers, bookers, promoters, executives and so on. They can also be people who are on payroll but can't do their "main" job (wrestlers who are injured, builders/roadies who are bored, etc) or people that will work for free (Friends and Family of people who work there).
This guy knows his hit about wrestling. Solid info.
 
That's why I said kind of before impressive and noted that it was kind of impressive for a morbidly obese man.

You're comparing his abilities to a non morbidly obese man. And before you nitpick this elaboration, please note that I said morbidly obese and not just obese.
There's an old tradition of morbid obesity in British wrestling, such as Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks, as seen here:
(jump back in the clip for context if you prefer)
Both were above a 40 BMI, at least according to their billed weights and heights, so were morbidly obese by that measure.
 
Not really, no.

Not a lot of people and not a lot of money, which is why the promotions don't make money, frequently operate at a loss, and wrestlers don't get paid shit. It's not uncommon for an indie wrestling show to charge $5-10 for admission and get like a few hundred people

I would have to go through my post history, and I can't be arsed, but at some point in this discussion many months ago I realised that Jim was wrestling just a couple of miles at my house and I think it was £25 entrance fee (I quoted the exact fee in my comment regarding way back then but I don't remember off the top of my head). At the same time, it was in a brewery and many other people were performing that night, too, so I am sure a lot of people went for the beer with a bit of shitty background entertainment, or they thought one or two of the other wrestlers were worth watching. Nobody was paying £25 to see Jim (though I nearly did just to post my findings, photos and videos here - turns out, I am not that masochistic).
 
I would have to go through my post history, and I can't be arsed, but at some point in this discussion many months ago I realised that Jim was wrestling just a couple of miles at my house and I think it was £25 entrance fee (I quoted the exact fee in my comment regarding way back then but I don't remember off the top of my head). At the same time, it was in a brewery and many other people were performing that night, too, so I am sure a lot of people went for the beer with a bit of shitty background entertainment, or they thought one or two of the other wrestlers were worth watching. Nobody was paying £25 to see Jim (though I nearly did just to post my findings, photos and videos here - turns out, I am not that masochistic).
If I remember correctly that was his debut for North Wrestling up in Newcastle and it was £25 though Jim wasn't the main event, he actually broadcast a recording of it on his Twitch some months ago and I posted an archive of it on here if anyone wants to try find it.
 
If I remember correctly that was his debut for North Wrestling up in Newcastle and it was £25 though Jim wasn't the main event, he actually broadcast a recording of it on his Twitch some months ago and I posted an archive of it on here if anyone wants to try find it.
It was Newcastle but it was around his 4th match there. Funnily enough the owners of the brewery it was held at had flared up on Twitter a year or so before the match for "homophobic remarks" but I guess Jim only cares about that sort of thing if he's not receiving money.
 
I would love to see polling data of who still watches Jim and why.
please note that I said morbidly obese and not just obese.
These kinds of clinical demarcations are important. A LOT of shitty journos will lump overweight and obese into the same category. Some will lump overweight, obese and morbidly obese in the same category. These demarcations exist for a reason and they are clinically significant.
 
I am posting anonymously here as a professional wrestler. I've been wrestling in Europe on the indie circuit and have had the immense chance of not wrestling this thing.
This is a terrible promo reel for your moves and 50% of those clips in there are absolute red flags for any decent promoter worth his salt. This is the kind of shit you would maybe send to a promoter after wrestling 10-15 matches, filled with your moveset and some filler spots; until you can get better material.
The move at 0:52 makes no sense. Nothing happens after.
The childish spot at 1:04 KILLS my fucking job, when I have to go after you and actually convince people i'm not just pretending to fight and sincerely doing it.
but perhaps the biggest red flag out of all of this, is the WEAK and limp clotheline with the arm at a negative angle from the shoulder. (1:23)
The fact that there's a fucking part in there when he's not WEARING HIS FUCKING MASK, FUCK ME MAN YOU HAD ONE JOB.
The fucking fact he can't lift his feet high enough on the leg lariat.
There is no speed, no danger, no energy, no inertia.... for a 300kg bastard, he's terrifying to go in the ring with, but not for the kayfabe reasons.
I'd rather do a fucking death match for a sandwich and a handshake than be booked with this piece of trash.

The one thing you'll notice that is NOT in the reel, is him taking a bump. That's like 50% of your job, and we all know why you're not showing it. Cause you fucking suck.
I don't know much about wrestling other than "It's fake." And "Do you know how hard it is to sell this shit to an audience? Really fucking hard!" So I thank you for some extra niche knowledge input. Just do me a favour in the future, can you toss in some links to the jargon? Half of us are going to google it anyhow, but it helps us get the right definition. Niche knowledge is best knowledge!
 
I would love to see polling data of who still watches Jim and why.
I personally know at least one person who still watches Jim for his rants about the evil triple AAA industry and know this because he's said basically the exact same shit Jim spouts to me. The Jimquisition for a long time hasn't been funny or informative but unlike a lot of it's competitors it does regularly and aggressively shit on big companies and the scuzzy people in said companies.
 
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On the topic of Sterling's wrestling, he's bragging on twitter about his "sheer physical strength" according to a totally real fan after two years of troon pills. (Archive)
"The Commander" (Is that really the name of his wrestling persona? It's so lame.) must have felt really strong slamming that real woman to the ground!

Jim actually divulged some information on his back on twitter as well. (Have the same archive as above, since it's in here.)
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In other news, Jim is also playing with a Tamagotchi (Archive), because that's extremely relevant and hip with the kids! If he's going to waste his time on Tamagotchis, he should at least try to turn them into videos or something. I dunno, better than whining about the same shit over and over.
 
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On the topic of Sterling's wrestling, he's bragging on twitter about his "sheer physical strength" according to a totally real fan after two years of troon pills. (Archive)
"The Commander" (Is that really the name of his wrestling persona? It's so lame.) must have felt really strong slamming that real woman to the ground!
Nothing says gender equality quite like choke slamming a woman onto the mat incorrectly, and irreversibly paralyzing her. Trans-tastic.
 
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On the topic of Sterling's wrestling, he's bragging on twitter about his "sheer physical strength" according to a totally real fan after two years of troon pills. (Archive)
"The Commander" (Is that really the name of his wrestling persona? It's so lame.) must have felt really strong slamming that real woman to the ground!

Jim actually divulged some information on his back on twitter as well. (Have the same archive as above, since it's in here.)
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The what the FUCK is he doing in one of the most PHYSICALLY DEMANDING sports in the world if his back is fucked?! Does Streling realize that alone makes him a liability for not only himself, but also his opponent, as wrestling requires for you to know what the fuck are you doing, or else you can be a danger to everyone in the ring.

Did he actually gave it some thought before entering, or was his ego too big to ignore the warnings?! No wonder Scotty 2 Hotty refused to train him.
 
The what the FUCK is he doing in one of the most PHYSICALLY DEMANDING sports in the world if his back is fucked?! Does Streling realize that alone makes him a liability for not only himself, but also his opponent, as wrestling requires for you to know what the fuck are you doing, or else you can be a danger to everyone in the ring.

Did he actually gave it some thought before entering, or was his ego too big to ignore the warnings?! No wonder Scotty 2 Hotty refused to train him.
Why follow the basic standards of professional conduct for the safety of yourself and others when you can just call people bigots instead?
 
I personally know at least one person who still watches Jim for his rants about the evil triple AAA industry and know this because he's said basically the exact same shit Jim spouts to me. The Jimquisition for a long time hasn't been funny or informative but unlike a lot of it's competitors it does regularly and aggressively shit on big companies and the scuzzy people in said companies.
Could easily be watching Yongyeah or Arlo, they really picked up Jim's formula/complaints and ran with it.
 
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