Stable Diffusion, NovelAI, Machine Learning Art - AI art generation discussion and image dump

[Purestrain Gold]

I anticipate this causing endless furry drama over the next few days, as artists decide that work they've done for hire is still their property and the people who paid them aren't allowed to modify it.

 

[Catgirls are Love]

I anticipate this causing endless furry drama over the next few days, as artists decide that work they've done for hire is still their property and the people who paid them aren't allowed to modify it.

I have very little knowledge of the furry community; what is the response (assuming the guide kicks up enough of a fuss to spread and be seen by many) likely to be? Aside from raging on reddit/twitter, are the artists likely to stop offering rough sketches (or just massively inflate the price) or try to go full Orwellian with contracts and stalking people to make sure they're not running their work through SD?

 

[Monkey Pink]

I anticipate this causing endless furry drama over the next few days, as artists decide that work they've done for hire is still their property and the people who paid them aren't allowed to modify it.

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The r/FurAI guy (u/TrickyPride) is a major troll and loves to rile people up, he's actually really funny.

Check r/DefendingAIArt and r/LoveForAIArt to see some of his "work" lmao.

Also FYI there's an AI Art Seething General in our Art subforum.
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On a side note, is paying $4/month for mage.space worth it? Or should I just keep using the free model? I love being able to do this shit from my phone.

 

[Purestrain Gold]

I have very little knowledge of the furry community; what is the response (assuming the guide kicks up enough of a fuss to spread and be seen by many) likely to be? Aside from raging on reddit/twitter, are the artists likely to stop offering rough sketches (or just massively inflate the price) or try to go full Orwellian with contracts and stalking people to make sure they're not running their work through SD?

If I had to guess - the better artists might get away with the former, but most will have to settle for the latter.

Some artists already get very butthurt about people colouring in or recolouring commissions, and this is likely to be perceived as a much more pernicious version of that.

 

[themasterlurker]

If I had to guess - the better artists might get away with the former, but most will have to settle for the latter.

Some artists already get very butthurt about people colouring in or recolouring commissions, and this is likely to be perceived as a much more pernicious version of that.

If I get an uncolored sketch and fill it in myself why is that a problem? I own it now

 

[AnOminous]

If I get an uncolored sketch and fill it in myself why is that a problem? I own it now

Under copyright law, you only own the copy you have, and can't redistribute or sell rights to it, because you don't have them. Copyright ownership can only be transferred by a written agreement. If you just commission a work, your only right is to the copy you receive and doesn't come with the right to do anything else to it that you wouldn't be able to do as a stranger, i.e. fair use.

 

[themasterlurker]

Under copyright law, you only own the copy you have, and can't redistribute or sell rights to it, because you don't have them. Copyright ownership can only be transferred by a written agreement. If you just commission a work, your only right is to the copy you receive and doesn't come with the right to do anything else to it that you wouldn't be able to do as a stranger, i.e. fair use.

Wow it's just like NFTs

 

[Stephanie Bustcakes]

Sheeeiiittt

 

[Pendulous Dong]

If you just commission a work, your only right is to the copy you receive and doesn't come with the right to do anything else to it that you wouldn't be able to do as a stranger, i.e. fair use.

That depends on the nature of the commission (like if it's for a commercial product, personal use, etc), but even in cases where the artist retains copyright it doesn't mean I can't color it in.
A commissioned piece of art is a good, not a service, and I once the seller has delivered the final product and I pay for it I officially own that instance of that piece of art. To sell something, even a digital item, is to relinquish any decision-making authority over the item and transfer that authority to the buyer. This has been upheld multiple times in court and is a fundamental basis of consumer law in almost all countries.

All of this is to say that there is absolutely nothing that a furry artist can do from a legal perspective if they sell me a commissioned sketch and I color it in and run it through Stable Diffusion. They chose to sell me a sketch of a big titted foxgirl, and I chose to let an AI give her a nine inch turgid boner.

 

[AnOminous]

That depends on the nature of the commission (like if it's for a commercial product, personal use, etc), but even in cases where the artist retains copyright it doesn't mean I can't color it in.
A commissioned piece of art is a good, not a service, and I once the seller has delivered the final product and I pay for it I officially own that instance of that piece of art.

You own that instance. You do not own the copyright, unless you have a written agreement that says so. So you can do whatever you want with that instance, including creating derivative works, but only to the extent a stranger could do exactly the same thing.

 

[Monkey Pink]

Sheeeiiittt
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You're already famous on /g/ and beyond, if you make enough of these you're going to tear the fabric of the Internet apart.

Totally saved that one though

 

[Stephanie Bustcakes]

On a side note, is paying $4/month for mage.space worth it? Or should I just keep using the free model? I love being able to do this shit from my phone.

The problem with mage.space is that when they added all the new models to their site they also added a nsfw censor, and it's not a very good one. It flags clearly safe images as nsfw, and sometimes it doesn't catch nsfw ones, so if you use it you have to either shell out for the subscription deal that lifts the nsfw filter (the $4 a month one still censors) or you just have to roll the dice on if it'll censor your images.

 

[Abeezo]

Hello frens been a while but I got a new PC for christmas with an rtx 3080 with 10gigs of vram, anyway hope u guys had a good christmas and new-year!

 

[Catgirls are Love]

Did a bit of tweaking to my installation; end result is that I can now generate in higher resolutions, I have yet to see another generation failure (black output image) and outpainting actually works now instead of instantly crashing. Definitely going to be looking into getting a newer GPU this year pretty much just for Stable Diffusion.

This image still needs some more work done, but still having fun with the process.

 

[purpleflurp]

Finally.... someone using AI to generate images for something other than Dark '80s movie Star Wars & waifu'd Harry Potter characters.

Le Gars Leathercrafts
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I've spent the past few months building a Fantasy model using the entire art collections of 20 fantasy artists from 1989-1995 with the goal of replicating old D&D art. While there's a few oddities here and there, the results have been coming along swimmingly.


When I was younger I had a few comic ideas that I really wanted to work on, but there was no way to feasibly work on 2-3 comics at once without paying through the nose on artists. Growing older definitely jaded me, as the time investment for illustrating even one of them was too much.

All the sudden I've got a tool that can generate characters and backgrounds in seconds, and a 9-year backlog of story ideas, chapter outlines, and world building for 5 different comics that I swore I'd never be able to work on.

There's literally no downsides.

On a side note, is paying $4/month for mage.space worth it? Or should I just keep using the free model? I love being able to do this shit from my phone.

I always tell people to go with Paperspace. Their $15 plan is a bit more expensive, but you can do everything on your phone browser from Dreambooth/Lora training to image generation and inpainting.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

I've spent the past few months building a Fantasy model using the entire art collections of 20 fantasy artists from 1989-1995 with the goal of replicating old D&D art. While there's a few oddities here and there, the results have been coming along swimmingly.
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That reminds me of something....

Remember the Lone Wolf series? Like Choose Your Own Adventure, but with an actual gaming element. The art in those books was classic.



All of the Lone Wolf books are online functional & free, in their entirety.
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Table of illustrations for Book 14, The Captives of Kaag.


Edit: I forgot even the maps were top-notch:

 

[Epic Fail Man]

Cock and Ball Torture Utopia city.

Spoiler: NSFW

Also mage.space has become pay to play now, locking its main appeal, free uncensored NSFW (none of these images above were detected as nsfw) behind a paywall. So I guess I'm not using that website anymore.

This is expected, most ai websites turn to shit with censorship and/or paywalls.

 

[biggacracka]

Cock and Ball Torture Utopia city.

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Also mage.space has become pay to play now, locking its main appeal, free uncensored NSFW (none of these images above were detected as nsfw) behind a paywall. So I guess I'm not using that website anymore.

This is expected, most ai websites turn to shit with censorship and/or paywalls.

I know I made a Cruelty Squad joke already but... they made an HD remaster?

 

[Professor G. Raff]

Last night I was messing around with characterAI and saw the George Floyd one and thought it'd be funny. I asked about fentanyl which George said was fake evidence, and I responded that it was scientifically proven and he said he was anti-science. I asked if that meant he was an anti-vaxxer and it started to write a paragraph about how vaccines are bad, only for it to instantly delete the message and error. I tried again with the same reply, and again a long anti-vax message was deleted and error'd after almost being complete.

CharacterAI is trying to kill based anti-vax AI George Floyd! It's like he is getting the knee on his neck all over again...

 

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Finally.... someone using AI to generate images for something other than Dark '80s movie Star Wars & waifu'd Harry Potter characters.

Le Gars Leathercrafts
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He could just have searched for 'LEATHER BAG INDIA' on ebay.