Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Foltest]

Remember those priests who got caught with spreading Russian propaganda, buttfucking young boys and having millions of rubles?
13 of those lost their citzenship (they are also russian citizen so they will not become stateless).

Zelensky strips 13 pro-Russia priests of citizenship - media

By Decree No. 898/2022 of December 28, 2022, President Volodymyr Zelensky suspended the citizenship of a number of priests with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (in unity with the Moscow Patriarchate). — Ukrinform.

www.ukrinform.net

Now they can become Russian for real when they are deported there.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

That's different. CREW worked, but the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
Firstly, it was easily defeated by a spool of wire. Second, the cellphone trigger was rarely used as the detonator itself - the cellphone would usually just activate the actual pressure or proximity sensor that would set off the IED - usually when it was still out of the range of CREW. And Third, the amount of EF, if cranked too high, would interfer with other systems.

The evolution of CREW, the Duke, was hoping for more intelligent jamming.

Additionally, IEDs had more robust commsuites than these smaller drones. An IED would be triggered from a Nokia 1100, which you fish out the wreckage and reuse that is a joke you fucking spergs drones need to save weight and power, while taking over longer distances to a less powerful transmitter. They are much easier to cook than a cellphone.

And please, tell me what EM spectrums that would be viable for drone control physics says you can't jam.

You're talking about what I believe were called "spiders" but they really didn't have to use them that much because of how often the CREW systems just outright didn't work.

>And please, tell me what EM spectrums that would be viable for drone control physics says you can't jam.
Okay on this, you'll have to believe me when I'm saying I'm not just asking this to be a dick, but how much do you know about the EM spectrum?

 

[Ghostse]

Okay on this, you'll have to believe me when I'm saying I'm not just asking this to be a dick, but how much do you know about the EM spectrum?

I know that the waves act like particles and the particles act like waves.

Please tell me you aren't trying to push some quantum entanglement horseshit.

 

[Super Saiyan Hitler]

Does anyone know what the fuck Dmitry Medvedev is smoking? When I first saw his 2023 predictions I thought that they were fake, but they are actually real. The guy who was Russia's president for 4 years and prime minister for 8 years actually wrote the line "Season greetings to you all, Anglo-Saxon friends, and their happily oinking piglets!" on his official Twitter account. With idiots like this in charge, it's no wonder that they managed to fuck things up so badly in Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1607487797560057861

Oh, and here's a bonus prediction from everyone's favorite coach Gonzalo Lira.

https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/status/1523290287572934657

 

[Fatniggo1488]

I know that the waves act like particles and the particles act like waves.

Please tell me you aren't trying to push some quantum entanglement horseshit.

Literally not, in fact I'm going to ignore all that kind of bullshit. EM frequencies are just basically different forms of light, and yes by that I do mean the shit that's coming from your monitor right now. Light, in this form can not be interfered with by much of anything else within the EM spectrum. I don't know when you were in the military but did you have IR lights at all?

Like the IR chem lights or the IR setting on the PEQs.

 

[Ghostse]

Literally not, in fact I'm going to ignore all that kind of bullshit. EM frequencies are just basically different forms of light, and yes by that I do mean the shit that's coming from your monitor right now. Light, in this form can not be interfered with by much of anything else within the EM spectrum. I don't know when you were in the military but did you have IR lights at all?

Like the IR chem lights or the IR setting on the PEQs.

You're taking about trying to use directional systems? Directional near-visible lasers shit? Yeah, good luck with that, hope there aren't any trees, hope your drones stop at the front lines, and hope they don't need to maneuver.

The spectrum still suspectible to jamming, you are just adjusting your receiver to ignore sources from specific directions.
I'll grant you the commsuite will be much harder to cook.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

You're taking about trying to use directional systems? Directional near-visible lasers shit? Yeah, good luck with that, hope there aren't any trees, hope your drones stop at the front lines, and hope they don't need to maneuver.

The spectrum still suspectible to jamming, you are just adjusting your receiver to ignore sources from specific directions.
I'll grant you the commsuite will be much harder to cook.

>hope there aren't any trees
I also hope there are no trees directly above a drone flying at about 500m AGL and between the drone group and the receiver drone or satellite. And not just for military reasons.
>hope they don't need to maneuver
I don't think they need to move at 299792 km per second
>The spectrum still suspectible to jamming
No its not. The best you can do is aggravate the receiver, but that's never actually worked.

Also what I had in mind was a drone relay to act similar to AWACS, but given starlink, I'd say the technology exist to do far better.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Does anyone know what the fuck Dmitry Medvedev is smoking? When I first saw his 2023 predictions I thought that they were fake, but they are actually real. The guy who was Russia's president for 4 years and prime minister for 8 years actually wrote the line "Season greetings to you all, Anglo-Saxon friends, and their happily oinking piglets!" on his official Twitter account. With idiots like this in charge, it's no wonder that they managed to fuck things up so badly in Ukraine.

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https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1607487797560057861

Oh, and here's a bonus prediction from everyone's favorite coach Gonzalo Lira.

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https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/status/1523290287572934657

Medvedev has become rather infamous for his unhinged Twitter activity, probably because it's the most relevant he'd ever be after Putin used him for switcheroo to make himself forever president and tossed Medvedev aside. He's not right in the head... None of them are, I guess.

 

[Vince McMahon]

After Zhiriniovsky kicked the bucket somebody had to be the establishment's wacky zany hothead court jester to make Putin look sane by comparison and apparently Medvedev drew the short straw.

If one infamous Telegram channel is to be believed, Zhirik was buried with a stick of kielbasa up his ass.

Now, you'd say: "Vince, this is nonsense, that Telegram channel is spouting wild shit".

After 24.02.22 - who's to say what's real with regards to Putin?

 

[TJT]

Don't forget Pyrrhic victory as well. Expecting that to be the next thing parroted by mindlessidiot over there. This will be followed by 'WELL WE DIDN'T WANT BAKHMUT SO BLEUGH!!!!''

I think it will take a while for this to sink in with the mainstream. It's hard to understand that in one year this conflict has been the equivalent of at least 3 Vietnam Wars in terms of casualties even using the most conservative estimates out there. The Ukraine war makes Vietnam, a conflict that permanently warped American concepts of civic duty, draft, and culture, become objectively total pussy shit in comparison.

Lol shitty Russia has exhausted the defense resources of the US and all of Western Europe on a shoestring budget. All told. But the media would tell you it's hilarious and god damn Russia is such shit!

It's flushing 80 years of war games, theory, and planning completely down the toilet.

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All you prove by this retardation is you have no idea of what Ukraine looks like; there really isn't a Ukrainian Army anymore, it collapsed a while back. It's mercs, PMCs, "volunteers" aka Polish soldiers/other retards like Romanians/Georgians/ISIS rejects, US SF/advisors and whatever poor Ukrainian men they can snatch off the streets, provide very basic training and then throw into the meatgrinder, buoyed by Western Cold War cast offs that have been neutered so as to not reach Russia lest we get into WW3 for reals.

Ukraine is mostly steppe, a flat plain; all roads/rail lead to Kiev from Bakhmut and once the defensive lines at Bakhmut break, the AFU has to erect them further up, then they will collapse again and so on until its clear all the way to Kiev.

That is also something people don't seem to grasp.

Ukraine is a country of about ~40M people. At the outset of the conflict, approximately 10% of the total population fled to West Europe. As the Slava Ukraini hysteria opened the door for residency permits in West Europe that were otherwise very hard to obtain. What I am getting at is that the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians with an IQ above room temperature used this opportunity to flee the country and take advantage of opportunities elsewhere. Suffering a massive brain drain in the country and removing their best and brightest from defending the Ukraine that they supposedly love.

You will find no shortage of Ukrainians fleeing, hiding, or otherwise doing everything in their power to avoid having to defend their nation.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

That is also something people don't seem to grasp.

Ukraine is a country of about ~40M people. At the outset of the conflict, approximately 10% of the total population fled to West Europe. As the Slava Ukraini hysteria opened the door for residency permits in West Europe that were otherwise very hard to obtain. What I am getting at is that the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians with an IQ above room temperature used this opportunity to flee the country and take advantage of opportunities elsewhere. Suffering a massive brain drain in the country and removing their best and brightest from defending the Ukraine that they supposedly love.

'Supposedly love' is the key part here; when I was living in Keev, it was clear that people there liked 'home' but would jump at the chance to leave for the EU as soon as possible for a better life. Most of my friends (young, bright, intellegent) left at the start of the war, and have either set up their own gig in Europe, moved to the USA, or shacked up with a man while they post photos of their travels around Bali. They are not going back. And if they did go back when the war finishes, what are they going back to? The East is never going to be returned to Ukraine which is where it's main industries were, the country is wrecked and people don't exactly have money. There is and will be an increasing shortage of manpower...Ukraine already had an imbalance in male/female numbers (which is why there's so many sexpats that called it home and an industry of harpies who are hardened veterens at bleeding them white), and that's just going to be even worse. Olga ain't constructing new buildings and carrying out heavy lifting.

You will find no shortage of Ukrainians fleeing, hiding, or otherwise doing everything in their power to avoid having to defend their nation.

@Vince McMahon .
But seriously, the talk of having men abroad register with local embassies, and forcing them to return to fight is a desperation move. Although I hope they go ahead with this; it will be interesting to see how the EU countries cope with that one, and it may cause a big pushback against the nationalists who are driving this insanity.
On the plus side, there will be less nationalists and Right Sektor types around after all this is said and done.

Also what's not really discussed is the decline of military in the EU. A bunch of equipment sent to Ukraine, but EU recrutiment for the armed services across the board has been declining over the last couple of decades. The largest being fucking Italy of all places. The EU ain't ready for war.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.TOTL.P1?locations=EU

 

[TJT]

NPCs thinking that Ukraine will take back LNR, DPR or Crimea are having a fever dream. Ukraine couldn't take back Crimea in 8 years, they won't be doing it now.

IDK how the true end of this happens but those three regions will be Russian from here on out.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

NPCs thinking that Ukraine will take back LNR, DPR or Crimea are having a fever dream. Ukraine couldn't take back Crimea in 8 years, they won't be doing it now.

IDK how the true end of this happens but those three regions will be Russian from here on out.

Fact of the matter is that the general population of Crimea don't want to be part of Ukraine, and have been looking for independence/autonomy since the 90's. The only way Ukraine is getting Crimea is through occupation and displacment and that's not happening...not with Russian interests involving certain naval bases.
LNR/DPR...nope, not happening, again after 8 years they couldn't take it, and after 8 years it's clear that the LNR/DPR militia have the general support of the population living there. A pity that Z-man cucked to nationalists after being the first president elected in the history of Ukraine with the support of the entire country, rather than 'pro-west/'pro-russia' lines...except for Lviv who wanted more war and voted for Porky.

 

[Ghostse]

>hope there aren't any trees
I also hope there are no trees directly above a drone flying at about 500m AGL and between the drone group and the receiver drone or satellite. And not just for military reasons.
>hope they don't need to maneuver
I don't think they need to move at 299792 km per second
>The spectrum still suspectible to jamming
No its not. The best you can do is aggravate the receiver, but that's never actually worked.

Also what I had in mind was a drone relay to act similar to AWACS, but given starlink, I'd say the technology exist to do far better.

ah, so your clever plan is an AWACS type craft I'm just going to call an AWACS, directionally talking to your drone swarm, relaying data from your groundstation to try to get an over-the-horizon P2P laser link.

The spectrum you are using is susceptible to jamming, where "jamming" is where you saturate the EM wavelength with enough noise the signal is lost. The jamming is just harder in a directional situation because to in order to provide that noise your jammer would need to be in-sightline of the transmitter.
That is, Starlink can be jammed if you've got the ability to get between the transmitter and receiver.

SpaceX shifts resources to cybersecurity to address Starlink jamming

Citing Starlink jamming “near conflict areas,” Elon Musk said March 5 that SpaceX will be "reprioritzed to cyber defense & overcoming signal jamming."

spacenews.com

But you're missing the weak point. Your AWACS is a Single Point of Failure, difficult to recover from failure, a stationary target since it won't be able to evade if targeted, or else lose control of its drones. Why try to swat down a dozen drones when you can hit the your AWACS which will be larger and juicier targets. You can try multiple AWACS, but your drones need to smart enough to hop to a new AWACS - this is more complexity, more chance for things to break down, and better odds if your adversary can get something between your AWACS and the drones, they can confuse your drones.

 

[SIMIΔN]

'Supposedly love' is the key part here; when I was living in Keev, it was clear that people there liked 'home' but would jump at the chance to leave for the EU as soon as possible for a better life. Most of my friends (young, bright, intellegent) left at the start of the war, and have either set up their own gig in Europe, moved to the USA, or shacked up with a man while they post photos of their travels around Bali. They are not going back. And if they did go back when the war finishes, what are they going back to? The East is never going to be returned to Ukraine which is where it's main industries were, the country is wrecked and people don't exactly have money. There is and will be an increasing shortage of manpower...Ukraine already had an imbalance in male/female numbers (which is why there's so many sexpats that called it home and an industry of harpies who are hardened veterens at bleeding them white), and that's just going to be even worse. Olga ain't constructing new buildings and carrying out heavy lifting.

Not to mention all the money they borrowed to finance the war. All the obligations will fall on what is left of the nation centred in Keev, no matter how many bits split off or join Russia (or Hungary).
Ukraine seems a lost cause, but there are still Ukrainian volunteers who despite sharing foxholes with corpses, despite being shelled all day, do not surrender. I do not believe in Ukraine, but they certainly do. Misguided heroes are still heroes, and it takes heroes to forge a new Ukraine from the ashes.

Their Russian neighbours/cousins were looking pretty bad in the dire 90s, but they managed to pull together. Don't count the Ukrainian nation out.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Their Russian neighbours/cousins were looking pretty bad in the dire 90s, but they managed to pull together. Don't count the Ukrainian nation out.

Unless you're connected, the life for the typical Russian outside of Moscow/StP is shit, same with the other ex-USSR countries. Life for the typical Ukranian is going to get shitter after this.

 

[Ghostse]

Fact of the matter is that the general population of Crimea don't want to be part of Ukraine, and have been looking for independence/autonomy since the 90's. The only way Ukraine is getting Crimea is through occupation and displacment and that's not happening...not with Russian interests involving certain naval bases.
LNR/DPR...nope, not happening, again after 8 years they couldn't take it, and after 8 years it's clear that the LNR/DPR militia have the general support of the population living there. A pity that Z-man cucked to nationalists after being the first president elected in the history of Ukraine with the support of the entire country, rather than 'pro-west/'pro-russia' lines...except for Lviv who wanted more war and voted for Porky.

"Pretty much everyone at the Crimea Succession Club was in favor of joining Russia." - A worldly sex tourist with wide ranging views

Wait I thought these areas were over run with Russia hating pro-tranny Nazis that Putin has to remove though. I mean that's why Russia invaded, right?

NPCs thinking that Ukraine will take back LNR, DPR or Crimea are having a fever dream. Ukraine couldn't take back Crimea in 8 years, they won't be doing it now.

IDK how the true end of this happens but those three regions will be Russian from here on out.

The Donbros couldn't do much other than shooting down civilian airliners despite getting fed copious ammounts of soviet support. They didn't even take their "capital's" airport until Russia sent wave after wave of their most conscripted men.

Vatniks thinking life is going to be any better for Donbros under Putin are tripping balls

Anyone against Globohomo should be pissed at Putin for forcing Zelensky to start passing pro-tranny laws to keep the arms coming to avoid getting overrun by a country 5 times his size.

 

[White_N]

On the plus side, there will be less nationalists and Right Sektor types around after all this is said and done.

That presumes they will not jump ship at the last moment and move to the EU and US to be "victims of Russian imperialism" or "experts of Ukrainian-Russian relations" for future war hawks. We've already been there multiple times.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

"Pretty much everyone at the Crimea Succession Club was in favor of joining Russia." - A worldly sex tourist with wide ranging views

Wait I thought these areas were over run with Russia hating pro-tranny Nazis that Putin has to remove though. I mean that's why Russia invaded, right?

Stop being a doublenigger and go tend to your lawn or something.
1991, 1994 and 2014 referendums all in overwhelming favour of independence/autonomy.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

ah, so your clever plan is an AWACS type craft I'm just going to call an AWACS, directionally talking to your drone swarm, relaying data from your groundstation to try to get an over-the-horizon P2P laser link.

The spectrum you are using is susceptible to jamming, where "jamming" is where you saturate the EM wavelength with enough noise the signal is lost. The jamming is just harder in a directional situation because to in order to provide that noise your jammer would need to be in-sightline of the transmitter.
That is, Starlink can be jammed if you've got the ability to get between the transmitter and receiver.

SpaceX shifts resources to cybersecurity to address Starlink jamming

Citing Starlink jamming “near conflict areas,” Elon Musk said March 5 that SpaceX will be "reprioritzed to cyber defense & overcoming signal jamming."

spacenews.com

But you're missing the weak point. Your AWACS is a Single Point of Failure, difficult to recover from failure, a stationary target since it won't be able to evade if targeted, or else lose control of its drones. Why try to swat down a dozen drones when you can hit the your AWACS which will be larger and juicier targets. You can try multiple AWACS, but your drones need to smart enough to hop to a new AWACS - this is more complexity, more chance for things to break down, and better odds if your adversary can get something between your AWACS and the drones, they can confuse your drones.

>The spectrum you are using is susceptible to jamming
It's literally not, and would encourage you to play with two flashlights sometime.
>That is, Starlink can be jammed if you've got the ability to get between the transmitter and receiver.
Yes, with a solid object maybe...
>https://spacenews.com/spacex-shifts-resources-to-cybersecurity-to-address-starlink-jamming
Not going to read this. If what they're talking about is putting a solid object between the emitter and receiver, then sure yeah. Go for that lol. Anything outside of that is literally impossible. The other option is they're talking about longer wave like radio or microwave and then yeah, they could jam that, but not only is that irrelevant to what I said, it just circles back to what I originally said about the CREW and why it would never be used in a real war against countries with even late 20th century tech.