Off-Topic Detransitioner/Desister Stories - People you know or heard about deciding to return to their original gender/sex

This is one thing that I always wondered about lesbianism and lesbians. What are they getting out of it exactly?

At least with gay men it makes sense, men have higher libido and lower sexual inhibitions, so at least they get sex whenever, wherever and however with whomever they want. Sure they'll die at 40 from a mix of a cocktail of venerial diseases and collapsed veins, but at least they're getting something out of it.

Meanwhile, for the inverse reason, lesbians don't get sex, they don't get better/easier mate selection because women are naturally picky due to how male/female reproductive investment works, any mate they pick can't really protect them in any meaningful way (if anything the opposite seeing as lesbians beat the shit out of one another at a disproportional rate), women on the whole earn less than men so they can't get a sugarmommy either, and worth noting, lesbians use dildos, gay men don't use fleshlights. Just saying.

And this isn't even mentioning the biological clock/desire to have start a family/have babies thing.

Being a lesbian seems like a downgrade in every conceivable way.

It's simple I think, they get the promise of eternal, star-crossed fated romance (without any rude man breaking the spell with his crude maleness) which is something almost all women want more than raw sex (hence why erotica for women is very different than porn for men on average). When lesbian attraction happens, it can happen very fast and hard, as if it was a fated romance of two souls joining into one, and the merging happens. Then usually months or some years later reality kicks in, at least one partner is disilluded, finds another soul-merging romantic partner while being still technically in a relationship, and dyke drama ensues.
And you don't wanna be there.
 
Part of that is the biological pull, both in the strict sexual sense and for the fact women can form families with men that women alone can't create, and surprise, most women are family oriented (gasp!! I can't believe the sex that bears babies tends to love babies and the idea of having a family of their own. I guess the patriarchy put that idea in their mind).
This is what they truly believe though. Insane though it may be. Trying to reason with them about it is like that fucking spongebob meme.

"So you ever notice how humans are mammals?"
"yes"
"And how literally every species of mammal, along with most birds and reptiles and even some fish, will form male female pairs to mate?"
"yes"
"And the maternal instinct for mammals is so strong, we have received wisdom like don't get between a mother bear and her cub?"
"yes"
"So then it makes logical sense that the majority of human women would have a maternal instinct and desire to mate to have babies."
"NO!!!!"

This is one thing that I always wondered about lesbianism and lesbians. What are they getting out of it exactly?

At least with gay men it makes sense, men have higher libido and lower sexual inhibitions, so at least they get sex whenever, wherever and however with whomever they want. Sure they'll die at 40 from a mix of a cocktail of venerial diseases and collapsed veins, but at least they're getting something out of it.

Meanwhile, for the inverse reason, lesbians don't get sex, they don't get better/easier mate selection because women are naturally picky due to how male/female reproductive investment works, any mate they pick can't really protect them in any meaningful way (if anything the opposite seeing as lesbians beat the shit out of one another at a disproportional rate), women on the whole earn less than men so they can't get a sugarmommy either, and worth noting, lesbians use dildos, gay men don't use fleshlights. Just saying.

And this isn't even mentioning the biological clock/desire to have start a family/have babies thing.

Being a lesbian seems like a downgrade in every conceivable way.
The most sane gals I have known who id'ed as lez were pretty much all asexual autistic types. They had their special interests, they liked collecting plushies and pets. But they'd get lonely. And the male/female dating scene is terrifying for a shy retiring autist of any sex. So the idea that they could just live with their BFF and collect cats and action figures doesn't sound so bad to them. They don't even mind the "bed death" because they aren't really into sex (with others) in the first place.
 
It's even funnier because the high they are chasing is purely psychological. The hormones, in and of themselves, don't give any pleasure.
Testosterone is an anti-depressant and also increases your energy level. It's not hard to comprehend that once a woman starts it she wouldn't want to quit because of the high it gives.
 
Not exactly a detransitioner as I've never been on hormones (god fucking bless) but for a long time I was neck deep into the Gender Ideology. Specifically on Tumblr. Sure, I never bought into the more extreme ideas of the ideology like how you don't actually need dysphoria to be trans and how questioning the ideology is x-phobic by default, but I thought I was doing the right thing. Letting people be whoever they want is fine, and if they're suffering at the hands of society fighting for them seemed an honorable cause.

On top of that, I've always struggled with body image issues and my identity as a woman and femininity as a whole. I am a victim of grooming. Instead of unpacking all that trauma, genderspecials on the internet will take advantage of it and drag you into their sick cult. I was convinced up until a couple of years ago that I truly was a non-binary genderkweer demi-girl xe/rose/he clursterfuck. It gets to your head and it's so, so hard to break away from it if you don't have a support network and if you have shitty self-esteem. The only people around me were just like me, stuck in this gender echo chamber. Some of them still are- and if they found themselves, good for them. But the moment I started backpedaling, they jumped on me, tried to call me names and accusing me on transphobia. That's when I realized being part of the "community" isn't worth a fucking cent and left.

You ever notice how a majority of troons now are 13 year olds on TikTok, Tumblr, and Twitter? It literally is grooming. It's almost as if they get off to taking advantage of mentally unstable teens- oh wait, they actually do. Trannies can pretend all they want, but now I see through them. AND I know I'm not the only one. I think witnessing Keffals trying to take down this site was the last straw for me, that's when I realized the trans community is a sham cult of narcissists. And ever since then it's been a slow process of realizing that... it's fine to be a woman, actually. I don't need neopronouns or a cult of like-minded drones to feel good in my own skin. I don't need validation from leeches.

I genuinely feel bad for the people who truly suffer from gender dysphoria, it's a sick mental illness that can never be cured because no matter what you do, no matter how much money you throw down the drain and how much support (dopamine) you get on social media... you will never truly be any other sex than the one you were born with. But these people grooming kids and teens? They're not that. They're sick freaks high on hormones, wallowing in their own misery and trying to drag as many people as they can with them. No fucking wonder so many of them end up killing themselves. And if that leads to less children being groomed, I say that's a good fucking thing.
 
Testosterone is an anti-depressant and also increases your energy level. It's not hard to comprehend that once a woman starts it she wouldn't want to quit because of the high it gives.
Does put into perspective about men going on estrogen and testosterone suppressants -essentially taking depressants- bitching about how gender dysphoria makes them depressed, and thinking if they just keep taking depressants somehow it will cure their depression.
 
Final verdict: Early pre-puberty troons like Kim Petras and Jazz Jennings have it the best. They pass fully and can look pretty and non-threatening, but don't gotta deal with periods or pregnancy.

2 fat, dickless eunuchs "have it the best." really nigga?

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Not exactly a detransitioner as I've never been on hormones (god fucking bless) but for a long time I was neck deep into the Gender Ideology. Specifically on Tumblr. Sure, I never bought into the more extreme ideas of the ideology like how you don't actually need dysphoria to be trans and how questioning the ideology is x-phobic by default, but I thought I was doing the right thing. Letting people be whoever they want is fine, and if they're suffering at the hands of society fighting for them seemed an honorable cause.

On top of that, I've always struggled with body image issues and my identity as a woman and femininity as a whole. I am a victim of grooming. Instead of unpacking all that trauma, genderspecials on the internet will take advantage of it and drag you into their sick cult. I was convinced up until a couple of years ago that I truly was a non-binary genderkweer demi-girl xe/rose/he clursterfuck. It gets to your head and it's so, so hard to break away from it if you don't have a support network and if you have shitty self-esteem. The only people around me were just like me, stuck in this gender echo chamber. Some of them still are- and if they found themselves, good for them. But the moment I started backpedaling, they jumped on me, tried to call me names and accusing me on transphobia. That's when I realized being part of the "community" isn't worth a fucking cent and left.

You ever notice how a majority of troons now are 13 year olds on TikTok, Tumblr, and Twitter? It literally is grooming. It's almost as if they get off to taking advantage of mentally unstable teens- oh wait, they actually do. Trannies can pretend all they want, but now I see through them. AND I know I'm not the only one. I think witnessing Keffals trying to take down this site was the last straw for me, that's when I realized the trans community is a sham cult of narcissists. And ever since then it's been a slow process of realizing that... it's fine to be a woman, actually. I don't need neopronouns or a cult of like-minded drones to feel good in my own skin. I don't need validation from leeches.

I genuinely feel bad for the people who truly suffer from gender dysphoria, it's a sick mental illness that can never be cured because no matter what you do, no matter how much money you throw down the drain and how much support (dopamine) you get on social media... you will never truly be any other sex than the one you were born with. But these people grooming kids and teens? They're not that. They're sick freaks high on hormones, wallowing in their own misery and trying to drag as many people as they can with them. No fucking wonder so many of them end up killing themselves. And if that leads to less children being groomed, I say that's a good fucking thing.
The part about it being grooming victims seems to hit the nail on the head pretty well. The fact even adults fall for this shit is already ridiculous, but I guess they are "adults" in age only if they can't see the blatant fucking grooming around them.

I used to know a girl who became a genderblob after a bad breakup and is now going by fae/faer lmfao. She is now groomed by a literal pack of trannies and plugging their paypal every month on twitter with those transdisability hashtags or some shit, because they could not be caught dead working a day to save their life, and that money is very obviously being spent on weed. I just ask myself sometimes how do you even get to that point in your life. It's just so fucking insipid. But whatever, I'm sure she's enjoying the drugs and her life decisions.

That brings me to a thing I noticed. It's incredibly fucking difficult to find a friend group nowadays, at least online. Everything's locked behind tightly-knit discords, where you are either never part of the "main group", it's a over-moderated hellhole, or you are driven out of there by power-tripping bootlickers. It's no wonder trannies have the easiest hunting grounds ever to groom anyone even slightly insecure about themselves, or with any faint hint of introversion.
 
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Literally anything but a straight white woman.
She grew up in Finland where social justice propaganda is everywhere, but she grew up poor working class. The small community where she’s from expected everyone to be straight and gender conforming (she was abused for being masculine by her foster mother). She dated men as a pre-trans woman and as a trans man. She didn’t give any thoughts about being a lesbian. It wasn’t until she realized she had an affinity for androgynous and masculine women that she concluded that she was gay.
 
She grew up in Finland where social justice propaganda is everywhere, but she grew up poor working class. The small community where she’s from expected everyone to be straight and gender conforming (she was abused for being masculine by her foster mother). She dated men as a pre-trans woman and as a trans man. She didn’t give any thoughts about being a lesbian. It wasn’t until she realized she had an affinity for androgynous and masculine women that she concluded that she was gay.
Literally every single one of her problems and health issues could have been avoided if she chose to act normal. She pathologically chose to be anything but one.

She'd literally called herself a gay trans man before calling herself a straight woman.
 
Literally every single one of her problems and health issues could have been avoided if she chose to act normal. She pathologically chose to be anything but one.

She'd literally called herself a gay trans man before calling herself a straight woman.
As a teenager she acted like your average 2000’s teenage girl. She identified as a straight female. But in her twenties she discovered gender ideology and became non-binary, and then a gay trans man. After detransitioning, she realized she was gay.
 
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People don't get to carefully weigh up the options and then tick a box saying who they want to be attracted to. Lesbians are naturally attracted to women; it's not a choice, rational or otherwise.

People might not get to choose to whom they are attracted, this much can be true. But where that argument falls is that people do get to chose whether or not to be chaste, to be married, to be faithful, etc. "They don't get to choose to be tempted" is the same argument that the kleptomaniac's lawyer attempts at the trial for shoplifting, but the guilty verdict still drops. It's the same argument the cheater makes to the one he's cheated on, but the heart still breaks. "Born this way" is an excuse, not a defence.

Anyone who is sexually disoriented, he or she has a difficult condition to suffer, and we have to have empathy for him or her. But he doesn't have a right to normalise his condition. We see now the terrible consequences this normalisation is having on our zoomers, who are choosing to be "gay" or "trans" or whatever else.
 
Lesbians are naturally attracted to women; it's not a choice, rational or otherwise.
Its absolutely a choice. Homosexuality being "ingrained" doesn't hold up to any ammount of scrunity when you consider that genes need to actually be passed on to express their traits and that long term same sex couples are borderline nonexistent in nature.
 
Its absolutely a choice. Homosexuality being "ingrained" doesn't hold up to any ammount of scrunity when you consider that genes need to actually be passed on to express their traits
It could still be genetic. Its not like women or men by and large had a choice in the manner of passing along their genes for most of human history. When given the option, lesbians have a very low birth rate; even in a time of enforced acceptance. So obviously its self correcting if it is genetic.

and that long term same sex couples are borderline nonexistent in nature.
Wait, there are some?
 
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