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I gotta ask, was that Drawn Together Movie as bad as animation spergs say it is? I remember Enter having an autistic meltdown over this movie back in his hayday, and ever since then a lot of animation spergs have parroted his opinion since. So is it pretty bad or just not really that good?
 
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Colon capital V said:
I gotta ask, was that Drawn Together Movie as bad as animation spergs say it is? I remember Enter having an autistic meltdown over this movie back in his hayday, and ever since then a lot of animation spergs have parroted his opinion since. So is it pretty bad or just not really that good?
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It’s not really good. Made on the cheap in a different animation style than the show, so it really stands out.

Oh dear lord…
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Colon capital V said:
I gotta ask, was that Drawn Together Movie as bad as animation spergs say it is? I remember Enter having an autistic meltdown over this movie back in his hayday, and ever since then a lot of animation spergs have parroted his opinion since. So is it pretty bad or just not really that good?
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I enjoyed it. The Israel jokes were fairly clever and it had quite a bit of good raunch.

I would say that it is very a kin with season 3 of the show though. It is not as clever or funny as the first two seasons. In saying this, the general message of the film has aged like a fine wine. The film attacked South Park and went after the idea that adult comedies need to have a deeper message to them and be preachy. What was once a bitter take on South Park being more successful is now pretty accurate to adult animation and it’s audience as a whole.
 
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Fucking CHRIST.
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Why is Daphne in a onesie?
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
Fucking CHRIST.
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Why is Daphne in a onesie?
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Hey its against the law to market directly to children. Marketing to retarded manchildren though? A ok nothing in the rules against it.
Rome's rightful successor said:
Everything looks the same, everything sounds the same, and most importantly everything feels the same.
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Oh get off the cross we need the wood. This isn't the first time that's been a problem in animation history. In the 2000s every flash cartoon looked and sounded the same, in the 90s every dic cartoon looked and sounded the same, in the 80s every filmation cartoon looked and sounded the same in the 70s every Hannah barbera cartoon looked and sounded the same.


Time is just a never ending loop that always circles back around in on itself, just with different variables (in this case animation art styles ) everytime it does.
 
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Trashtaur said:
Dunno where else to put this, but about a week ago I decided to check out that new animated Christmas Carol film that released on Netflix a month ago. If anyone‘s curious, the title is “Scrooge: A Christmas Carol.”

So I watched it and honestly I found myself really enjoying it overall. It’s no groundbreaking masterpiece, but for what it is, I consider it a solid film/adaption of the book. It’s also based on the 70s musical film (which apparently the songwriter for came back to specifically work on this film before he passed. There’s a tribute to him at the end which I thought was nice.)

If you’re not a musical person, then this movie probably isn’t for you. I know many might not like this movie because it’s not the most book-accurate adaption, but coming from someone who loves the original book, I still loved this film regardless.

Honestly, my favorite aspect of the film is its visuals.

The character designs were hands down some of the best I’ve seen in a long while. My personal favorites were Jacob Marley and The Ghost of Christmas Past. Marley has the best design in the film imo. He shows up like a fucking badass and his whole ice/frost-theme really seals the deal for me. His firey coin-eyes were also a clever touch.

Marley was always my favorite character in the book and I’m really happy that he got some of the most badass scenes in the movie.

As for Past, I found her/their design to be very unique and creative. She’s basically a shapeshifter made of candle wax that can take the form of whoever she wants. She’s also one of the funniest characters in the film imo.

As for the main character himself, aka Scrooge, I thought he was great. I thought the music was also great and most of the songs have more or less grown on me.

I don’t want to go overboard so I’ll just leave it at this. Overall, I personally found this movie to be a solid 8.5/10. It’s certainly not for everyone and I can see why some people wouldn’t like it; it definitely lacks in a few places and imo would’ve benefitted from having a slightly longer runtime. As for me though, its earned it’s spot as one of my top 5 christmas films and I’ll definitely be watching it next time the holiday comes around.

(tbh though the funniest aspect of this movie for me is the absolutely batshit insane attention it’s gotten over on Tumblr. There’s a whole wave of fangirls on there completely simping over Scrooge’s design - it’s the Tumblr sexyman Onceler shit all over again. Between that and a few choice people on YouTube seething over this movie because “waahh it has black people in Victorian London wahhh”, I can’t decide which is funnier.)
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The art design was gorgeous in that film. It could have been done in such a pedestrian way, but they went above and beyond. Great music too. I don't blame Tumblr for finding Scrooge sexy, he's voiced by Luke Evans and is sharp and handsome!

 
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Trianon said:
The art design was gorgeous in that film. It could have been done in such a pedestrian way, but they went above and beyond. Great music too. I don't blame Tumblr for finding Scrooge sexy, he's voiced by Luke Evans and is sharp and handsome!

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Oh yeah, definitely.

They could’ve just gone full kiddy movie with this flick, and honestly that’s what I initially expected when I first decided to check it out, and yet I was pleasantly surprised to find this wasn’t the case. Don’t get me wrong, it’s definitely a much more lighthearted adaptation than most, but it still had its dark moments.

I mean, Scrooge is literally dragged down to Hell via chains at the end of the future segment through what I can only assume are the actual rings of Hell while his life literally flashes through his eyes around him. There’s also the incorporation of the segment from the 70s musical where the town is celebrating his death while one guy literally dances on his coffin.

My only real critiques for the film story wise is that I wish some of the classic lines from the book had been incorporated, and the present segment felt a bit lacking in comparison to the rest of the movie. Also wish some more scenes from the book that are often left out in other adaptions had been incorporated, such as Ignorance and Want, the Ghost Hearse, the Bakery scene, etc.

Tim’s death still hit like a fucking truck though. Shit always hits me right in the feels.

I’ve seen some criticize the ending because it feels too rushed, but imo I didn’t mind it. I think it makes more sense to me that Scrooge starts smaller by reaching out to his friends and family rather than just immediately running out into the streets and winning over the town.

Also, call me optimistic, but a part of me hopes that Marley was able to earn some level of peace/redemption after helping his friend. Dude may have been a shitty guy in life, but despite that he proved himself to be a genuinely good friend in the end.
 
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.Basic Blonde Boy said:
@Vyse Inglebard is right.
This show is Seth Rogan humor.
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Which is sad considering when he was in stuff like superbad, knocked up, and forty year old virgin Rogan was actually funny. He was this generations John belushi, or Chris Farley. At least those funny fatmen had the decency to die before their material nose dived. Hell as much as people bash him in that green hornet movie I think he was probably one of the few high points of it. At the very least it showed he had potential to move beyond stoner fat guy humor and into something more.

But along came sausage party, 2016 in general, the tds that pretty much plauged comedy for the rest of time even when he was out of office.

After Sausage party the man went full retard and went from Seth Rogan to Seth MacFarlane. He may have lost the fat I. His gut but clearly it went right to his fat head.

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Nothing but weed, sex and alcohol = funny. It doesn’t have the balls to actually make jokes against anything not corporately approved. The only ‘scathing humor’ will just be pot shots at Republicans, white men, corporations (which go unnamed of course), Christians, or some enemy of the DNC. There is no balls unless you considered making The Quartering mad an epic win.
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Daniel Kibblesmith: capitalism and corporations suck...except when you buy this limited edition sdcc exclusive inside job funko pop figurine set.
 
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On Velma, it's been a while since I've sat down for a nice cringe session with the 'Everybody wants to fuck my self-insert' fanfiction. It's almost nostalgic. Though the nostalgia is broken by how almost every line Velma utters is a basic-bitch quip about how cliché everything is or really awkwardly going on about her Mystery-triggered hallucinations (like, even for a shitty comedy show, the characters spouting off about 'Oh no, you are having your hallucinations triggered by mystery solving' is awkwardly written and delivered as all hell). No wonder Scooby isn't in this show, HBO probably didn't want to risk the self-insert getting her bestiality on.
 
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Sniperwoof said:
Why are the mystery gang in Velma 14-15 year old high school freshman? In pretty much every other adaptation excluding a pup named Scooby-Doo they are generally portrayed as being early to mid 20s.

This makes all the sex jokes and graphic nudity so much creepier.

They're fucking children.
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Wait, I thought they were teenagers from the very beginning?
Originally, in Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!, they were teens, with Velma being 15, Daphne being 16, and Fred & Shaggy being 17 (as well as high school seniors).
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Edit: It seems to vary from incarnation to incarnation.
Some of the earlier subsequent series hint toward the gang being legal adults, such as The New Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo Show episode "The Crazy Carnival Teacher" having Shaggy quip to a former teacher of his and Daphne's that he can't expel them because they already graduated and the premiere episode of The New Scooby-Doo Mysteries "Happy Birthday, Scooby-Doo" revealing that Fred has become a mystery writer and that Velma now works for NASA.
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Mystery Incorporated also had them as teens, too.
 
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Vyse Inglebard said:
Wait, I thought they were teenagers from the very beginning?

Edit: It seems to vary from incarnation to incarnation.

Mystery Incorporated also had them as teens, too.
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Maybe things were different in the late 60s but Fred was old enough to own and drive the mystery machine without any limits a learners permit or beginner's license would have. (Only 2 blood related passengers for ex) and they did mention "shaggys the best gymnast in school." But the show seemed to always be set during the summer or holiday from school.

They probably kept the gang out of actually being in school in order to avoid being compared to say..Archie which had its own show a year prior and would get a Sabrina the teenage witch show a year later.


The point is yes it's varied from version to but with the exception of the live action movies the gangs never been no older than at least 23 or 22.
 
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