Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

Antarctic came to Zack because of Brett R. Smith, who seems to have convinced them that conservative crowdfunders were the solution to their low sales problems. They also made an offer to publish CYBERFROG.

I'm pretty sure I remember Lim being involved, but so many deleted videos. regardless....

Antarctic wasn't selling very well back then, and if the Trump books were their best sellers, it isn't saying much.

It was in the court documents, I believe. I remember....Dunn? One of the Dunn bros had commented on it.

They offered to sell their whole business to Richard C. Meyer after Jawbreakers raised $400K.

I don't remember that happening.

In other words, Zack's half of the profits after publishing and fulfilling Lost Souls was more than enough for Antarctic Press to hand over their whole empire.

Is this like your mysterious bully cabal, or was this an actual offer?

Also, did Richard hit 400K before or after Waid canceled the deal and he got allot of sympathy backers?

You can go back and look at the Timothy Lim IGG campaigns from back then. Your memory doesn't have to recall.

Unlike you and Richard's books, Tim Lim's books were sold on the direct market by antarctic in comic shops. It wasn't a 25 dollar comic book solicited solely on indiegogo, it was sold for I think five or six bucks? The problem is it went through allot of reprinting and I'm not sure how to count all that/don't really care. I do know it sold really well for them based on what they said.

Personally, I think Jawbreakers would have been big for them. Richard would have likely moved six or seven thousand units, making it a splashy indie title and it would have made Antarctic a top ten publisher. The company would have made a bank for standing up to Waid and gained nothing from anyone by bending over.
 
If I'm remembering right, Lim's book was, in fact, the reason Antarctic was willing to take a leap on Richard because Trump books at Antarctic was their number 1 seller.
Absolutely cucking was Antarctic's pathetic failure. What the fuck was wrong with those worms that they caved and cucked to people who would never have even bought their products anyway?
 
Just watched the first 28 minutes of a @FROG Cope Stream. Instead of saying anything more, maybe frog can listen to his own chat, or are they haters too?


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GuyFromRedBank - Even I'm convinced that I'm losing faith in you, EVS.
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Isildurs bane - Will the next book take this long. I really like Comicsgate but refuse to back anymore books until I get Rekt Planet
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Pay King - these campaigns would do much better if they didn't take 1-2 years to deliver...
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GERONIMO - I just was Brute to be finished ASAP and not pushed aside because of CF.
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I Got News For You - Snowman update?
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Pay King - these campaigns would be much more successful if they didn't take 2-3 years to deliver... figure this shit out...
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BLUBOY - Comicsgate making everything except comic books lately.
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Maybe Human - I love ya pie man, but one thing the critics got right is one book every 2.5 years is not sustainable. Gotta streamline this more.
 
I am not surprised people are being pissed at CG, as they just don't deliver. Congrats to all the artists that actually do their work on time, but some of these guys are just lazy fucks. Just look at the comments under the REIGNBOW THE BRUTE campaign. And instead of finishing this project finally, nope, lets rather stream about pointless shit... And then he has balls to shit talk manga, guys that sometimes sleep for 2 hours per day, just to finish their work on time.

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It all parallels the circumstances that led to CG’s creation so closely you have to laugh.

  • Creators fail to produce product customers want
  • Some YouTube spergs call them out on it and great operatic battles are waged between the creators who can’t deliver and the weirdo YouTuber consumer advocate
  • Weirdo YouTubers sputter out because at the end of the day they were maladjusted weirdos all along
  • Creator side declares victory…. Only to watch their own sales figures dwindle further and further into irrelevance. Public stops caring.
Why? Because at the end of the day, it wasn’t Ya Boi or Vikkiverse spearheading some great attack against the mainstream, or against CG. Customers were unhappy and YBZ/VV were weird and crazy enough to volunteer as spokespeople for that dissatisfaction. The animus existed without them and continues without them.

TL:DR, @FROG, you’ve made the same mistakes as Heather Antos. How’s it feel?
 
TL:biggrin:R, @FROG, you’ve made the same mistakes as Heather Antos. How’s it feel?
I'm with you on the hypocrite angle.. but I'm sure he feels great making more money and doing less or easier no deadline work. It was all an us vs them for donations and sympathy buys. Heather Antos still has a job in the industry with extra experience on her resume of dealing with obsessive scrutiny over her social media. Not a whole lot has changed except a whole bunch of miffed potential buyers are now super wary of crowdfunding (as they should be). He had a history of not delivering commissions for years. Caveat emptor
 
It all parallels the circumstances that led to CG’s creation so closely you have to laugh.

  • Creators fail to produce product customers want
  • Some YouTube spergs call them out on it and great operatic battles are waged between the creators who can’t deliver and the weirdo YouTuber consumer advocate
  • Weirdo YouTubers sputter out because at the end of the day they were maladjusted weirdos all along
  • Creator side declares victory…. Only to watch their own sales figures dwindle further and further into irrelevance. Public stops caring.
Why? Because at the end of the day, it wasn’t Ya Boi or Vikkiverse spearheading some great attack against the mainstream, or against CG. Customers were unhappy and YBZ/VV were weird and crazy enough to volunteer as spokespeople for that dissatisfaction. The animus existed without them and continues without them.

TL:biggrin:R, @FROG, you’ve made the same mistakes as Heather Antos. How’s it feel?

Ethan Klein Ethan Ralph Ethan Van Sciver
Ethan is name cursed by the internet gods

A formula exists (WA + IM =E'2)
Woke Agenda + Internet Movement = Ethan Squared
 
I'm with you on the hypocrite angle.. but I'm sure he feels great making more money and doing less or easier no deadline work.
He does now, sure. But those numbers are trending in the wrong direction. He’s still got a six figure book in him, maybe even two or three more yet. Let’s be generous. Plenty more trips to Ruth’s Criss Steakhouse can be had, for a little while anyhow.

But what signs can you see on the horizon that offer promise of a second wind for EVS?

1. There’s not likely to be a second Fandom Menace any time soon. No unwoke nerd franchise with a sizable fandom is left. Even if there were, crappy new adaptations have become the rule and not the exception. You can’t harvest clicks and superchats from viewers who don’t care/aren’t there.

2. How many people born after 1995 are in the habit of buying, reading, enjoying, or even just collecting floppy comics? Just the western comics pamphlet formula represents a pretty big, weird ask for about two generations now. Shouldn’t surprise you, really. Remember how awful the kids books were during the era of Ethan’s patron saint Dan diDio? The fields were salted and the new growth never grew! Many a reader of manga associates floppies with insultingly watered-down adaptations of kids shows. They view this stuff as quaint at best.

3. All attempts to bring CG to non-nerds or comics readers have failed so far. Granted all I’ve seen on that front seems to be Yellow Flash and SimpCast personalities, so maybe it’s one of those who/whom situations. If anyone wants to start inviting on lets players, mukbangers, or friendly country old people who make rustic how-to videos, maybe that’ll change. Who knows. But I doubt it. Dropping $50+ on a bagged and slabbed holofoil floppy is a comic dweeb’s game, and non-comic dweebs aren’t interested in this crap.

So EVS needs to deeply ingratiate himself to the following he’s got. Except he isn’t. And their numbers are dropping. And as for the ones he’s still got, all he can do is hope the economy treats them well in the coming years. He’s relying on them buying in hard on collectibles.
But hey… collectibles.
How well do collectibles hold their value when nobody is excited to invest in them anymore? And once they drop, who buys in on new ones?
I vaguely recall an EVS video prognosticating doom for Star Wars toy collectors based on the modern apathy towards the brand in the wake of the sequels. Oof.

It’s all so shortsighted and dismal it makes me actually pity his dependent family. But then again, look at him! What kind of dependable breadwinner allows himself to get that dangerously big and fat?
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He does now, sure. But those numbers are trending in the wrong direction. He’s still got a six figure book in him, maybe even two or three more yet. Let’s be generous. Plenty more trips to Ruth’s Criss Steakhouse can be had, for a little while anyhow.

But what signs can you see on the horizon that offer promise of a second wind for EVS?

1. There’s not likely to be a second Fandom Menace any time soon. No unwoke nerd franchise with a sizable fandom is left. Even if there were, crappy new adaptations have become the rule and not the exception. You can’t harvest clicks and superchats from viewers who don’t care/aren’t there.

2. How many people born after 1995 are in the habit of buying, reading, enjoying, or even just collecting floppy comics? Just the western comics pamphlet formula represents a pretty big, weird ask for about two generations now. Shouldn’t surprise you, really. Remember how awful the kids books were during the era of Ethan’s patron saint Dan diDio? The fields were salted and the new growth never grew! Many a reader of manga associates floppies with insultingly watered-down adaptations of kids shows. They view this stuff as quaint at best.

3. All attempts to bring CG to non-nerds or comics readers have failed so far. Granted all I’ve seen on that front seems to be Yellow Flash and SimpCast personalities, so maybe it’s one of those who/whom situations. If anyone wants to start inviting on lets players, mukbangers, or friendly country old people who make rustic how-to videos, maybe that’ll change. Who knows. But I doubt it. Dropping $50+ on a bagged and slabbed holofoil floppy is a comic dweeb’s game, and non-comic dweebs aren’t interested in this crap.

So EVS needs to deeply ingratiate himself to the following he’s got. Except he isn’t. And their numbers are dropping. And as for the ones he’s still got, all he can do is hope the economy treats them well in the coming years. He’s relying on them buying in hard on collectibles.
But hey… collectibles.
How well do collectibles hold their value when nobody is excited to invest in them anymore? And once they drop, who buys in on new ones?
I vaguely recall an EVS video prognosticating doom for Star Wars toy collectors based on the modern apathy towards the brand in the wake of the sequels. Oof.

It’s all so shortsighted and dismal it makes me actually pity his dependent family. But then again, look at him! What kind of dependable breadwinner allows himself to get that dangerously big and fat?
:(
As long as these incredibly stupid people still give Frog money he is obligated to steal it from them. I think thats in the Bible.
 
I make great stuff and I’m fantastic on YouTube.

You fags should just join me instead of praying for my death of obesity.

Instead of coping and seething on Kiwifarms do you not have a rainbow book to draw?
Listen to your fans and your critics, Fulfill your promises/ campaigns humble yourself to criticism you dish out to others apply it to yourself. you can turn this all around.

soon there will be no one left to blame, even your circle will walk away because you have no ability to self reflect. even your alogs walked away cause you aint worth the clout .....
 
Instead of coping and seething on Kiwifarms do you not have a rainbow book to draw?
Listen to your fans and your critics, Fulfill your promises/ campaigns humble yourself to criticism you dish out to others apply it to yourself. you can turn this all around.

soon there will be no one left to blame, even your circle will walk away because you have no ability to self reflect. even your alogs walked away cause you aint worth the clout .....
Sweet!
 
I’m giving all your posts rainbows to remind you to deliver my Brute
YES! Perfect. I'm working on REIGNBOW THE BRUTE now. Thanks for backing me.

The alogs would probably come back if this thread didn't devolve into anal-fisting gangbang enthusiasts scanning the backgrounds of their Pornhub videos for Zack.

I DO listen to my critics and fans. That's why I'm still here. I'm in the weeds because I launched RTB too soon and extended REKT PLANET's length, but it's coming along and it's going to be great.

Stop fighting me. Fuck.
 
YES! Perfect. I'm working on REIGNBOW THE BRUTE now. Thanks for backing me.

The alogs would probably come back if this thread didn't devolve into anal-fisting gangbang enthusiasts scanning the backgrounds of their Pornhub videos for Zack.

I DO listen to my critics and fans. That's why I'm still here. I'm in the weeds because I launched RTB too soon and extended REKT PLANET's length, but it's coming along and it's going to be great.

Stop fighting me. Fuck.
You extended that books length as an apology for it already being so late. At least be honest.
 
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