Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Free the Pedos]

She will not find sex either, because men like women to look like women, gay women like women to look like women, and gay men like men.

I'm always confused by troons who think bi people will be in to them. Bi people like both men who look like men and women who look like women, not men mutilated by surgery and exogenous hormones to attempt to look like women and vice versa.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I'm always confused by troons who think bi people will be in to them. Bi people like both men who look like men and women who look like women, not men mutilated by surgery and exogenous hormones to attempt to look like women and vice versa.

they chop off their dicks or get an arm sausage they loose their only appeal for the main group of people who'd be willing to sleep with them which is fetishists, a.k.a the chasers. Thats why tranny pornstars never do get it chopped off, coomers can fap to a shemale, no one faps to a neo-vagina.

Ftms get laid when they don't pass, the more they pass the more they'll fail, being treated like a dude is the worst thing that could happen to a ftm, the passing ones mostly look like manlet soyboys so they really fuck themselves over even if they win the troon game.

 

[Orca Friend]

Lost myself and my boobs to this. Luckily I still pass as a woman even with testosterone, so all I need to do is stop taking it and change my name to a female one. (Ive always hated the one given to me at birth.)

 

[Vingle]

I'm always confused by troons who think bi people will be in to them. Bi people like both men who look like men and women who look like women, not men mutilated by surgery and exogenous hormones to attempt to look like women and vice versa.

In most cases, bi dudes at least. Have a tendency to be more conservative than faggots and lesbians.

Ftms get laid when they don't pass, the more they pass the more they'll fail

I have seen curious fags wanting to do it with a FTM, but I guess they just have bi-tendencies. It's kinda like a twink with a vagoomba, if they don't have the rotten sausage. So yea, I don't think they're sought after sewing shut the vagoomba.

 

[FinnSven]

they chop off their dicks or get an arm sausage they loose their only appeal for the main group of people who'd be willing to sleep with them which is fetishists, a.k.a the chasers. Thats why tranny pornstars never do get it chopped off, coomers can fap to a shemale, no one faps to a neo-vagina.

Ftms get laid when they don't pass, the more they pass the more they'll fail, being treated like a dude is the worst thing that could happen to a ftm, the passing ones mostly look like manlet soyboys so they really fuck themselves over even if they win the troon game.

A lot of the passing ones look like thirteen year old boys trying to look like men.

Pedos might be interested in them?

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

I'm always confused by troons who think bi people will be in to them. Bi people like both men who look like men and women who look like women, not men mutilated by surgery and exogenous hormones to attempt to look like women and vice versa.

Your can find even more confusing, like the ones who are furious at bisexuals who actually flirt with them because they suspect they don't see them as their desired gender (source, an old post in the sideshow thread where an mtf is rejecting a guy for being bi)

 

[Anti-Social Social Club]

I know way too many people considering where I'm from. I was debating posting here since my life isn't in shambles (yet) but the list just keeps getting longer. I'm not going to list every single Gender Person I know but I'll just list the ones I care about.

Spoiler: boyfriend

My boyfriend is an enbie and has been for a while, he's also the catalyst to me peaking despite at the time being part of the "NATALIE DARK MOTHER" crowd and I remember telling people to use they/them pronouns for a gay male enbie in one of my classes. I was supportive of enbies but I didn't get it, not like it mattered since it wasn't in my immediate social circle at the time. My bf was close to a few very very politically correct queer artsy students. When he came out I had a hard time understanding why he's identifying as non-binary because he's comfortable with his body since I understood trans shit through the truscum pov. I know that he somewhat struggled to fit in with his political friends because they would fling around insults and jokes towards him because he didn't think much of his identity and in fact was confident in his masculinity (rip golden days).
In a gaming session that included me, him, and two other friends (one of which is very progressive) my bf said a pretty misogynistic joke and our progressive friend honestly reacted with a lot of restraint since she just went "ugh men" while me and the other friend were awkwardly silent.

Anyway if someone is planning to come out as Not A Man the worst way to do so is referencing a series of female violence and your friends calling you out on gross sexist jokes. Maybe had he phrased it differently I would have been supportive. I was angry and horrified at his reasoning while he was angry I wasn't supportive because I'm bi therefore I must support everything and all things lgbtq+.

I was hoping he would wise up and detrans because he's smart but I guess complaining about men instead of being the butt end of the jokes is fun and gives him a sense of superiority, our friends obviously support him I remember coming into a vc recently where he was just venting about men and how much he hates men for some reason. I blame some of his more artsy friends for this shit. 2022 made me seriously reevaluate whether this relationship is sustainable or not. He jokes about me being a terf and "literally like JKR" so it's a bit of a weird relationship.

We were on a date and he would correct me when I referred to my own friend which made me a bit sour. I remember when he found out she became trans he was just so smug about it because he knew it would annoy me, he was also smug back when she started dating a genderfluid woman for the same reason**.

Spoiler: tiktok victim

A friend with a similar personality/humor/media consumption as me fell hard into tiktok during 2020 and is now a genderfluid Person but uses she/her for some reason? I asked her for reasons which were very embarrassing. Basically she feels uncomfortable being called mommy but is ok with being called daddy, I tried explaining to her that the former is usually said in a gross manner while the latter has power to it. Obviously there's also clothes. I sometimes get her posts on my insta discovery page and it's a lot of "omg so queer!" posts.

When she came out I tried my best to calmly explain my views on gender and shit since she asked for my preferred pronouns. I don't mean to be rude but i'm not sure she understood. She's been nothing but kind and considerate to me. I love her dearly.

This one hurts the most.

Spoiler: Friend

I've known this girl for years (Emma), she was one of the very few friends I had before going to university. I wish I was a better friend but I get so awkward around her and I struggle to talk to her but I still deeply care about her. We had a few "friend dates" that made me question why am I with my boyfriend when she treats me more like a gf than he ever did. I remember ranting to her about my boyfriend and explaining why he is now a theymlet to which she said it was a load of bullshit. Emma has always been a bit masculine and is very much the opposite of a terminally online person.

Poor girl got outed to her mother by her sibling and was dragged to see a conversion therapis. According to Emma the therapist was confused because she didn't practice conversion therapy. Emma was forced to stop talking to a number of friends associated with her ex at the time, which I am one of them. Her mum also kept sending her Matt Walsh videos to convince her that being a homo is just made up.

Fast forward a few months later things are a bit better and she's dating a genderfluid woman (lets call her Sam) who honestly seems ok **. My tiktok obsessed friend was planning an event, when I looked at the list I saw a number of names I didn't recognize and was somewhat intimidated. I was just trying to start small talk with her while killing time stuck in traffic, I was also planning on seeing Emma because she was nearby. Tiktok friend assured me how I know "Sam and Mike" I kept rereading the text because I have no idea who this "Mike" person is. My friend was very confused "Sam and Mike are dating" I had assumed the genderfluid gf was dating a new guy until my friend broke out the news to me "Emma is now Mike and goes by he/him pronouns you didn't know?". I don't see Emma frequently because we live far apart and her mum forbade her from seeing me because I'm a bad influence now. I ended up running into Emma and her gf neither of whom mentioned the whole name and pronoun change at all. Until now Emma never mentioned it to me while a handful of friends care about it. I'm not even sure she cares about it because I remember when she was introducing her gf to me I asked her to stick with one pronoun because 3 was very confusing, I even referred to her gf with enby pronouns because I care about my friend but she just defaulted to female pronouns and said it was no big deal.

Ironically when I did see her we talked about lesbian webcomics to which she said something along the lines of "you're such a lesbian why are you still with a man!" which was pretty hilarious and ironic. I let my bf know since I couldn't stand him being so smug about her using male pronouns which left him bitter and angry for a bit because "I'm not a man! Why are T H E Y such a hypocrite!" . He was a little upset with me because I didn't correct her but I'm confused as to why he thinks I will since he calls me a terf and JKR. I really don't know how to tell him that most of his friends don't see him as Not A Man, he gets upset when someone groups him with "the guys"

I wan to ask Emma about it but at the same time I'm really scared to hear her pov, I want to keep convincing myself that she's still a based lesbian who didn't fold under this shit.

 

[Free the Pedos]

I knew a troon lolcow who actually has a thread on here. Needless to say I was shocked to see that the shy but nice young man I had known had abandoned his family and was making a spectacle of mutilating himself online. I felt strangely humiliated that I ever knew such a creature, and confused by how someone who had seemed basically sound could have turned out this way. (For the record, I blame autism.)

 

[Vingle]

I hope you break things off with your boyfriend @Anti-Social Social Club. He seems very abusive towards you, and you deserve better.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I hope you break things off with your boyfriend @Anti-Social Social Club. He seems very abusive towards you, and you deserve better.

At this point you could call it "religious differences."

It seems pretty obvious that he went the male feminist-->accusations of misbehavior-->troon route, except he got off at enby.

 

[Spiny Rumples]

Being treated like a dude is the worst thing that could happen to a ftm, the passing ones mostly look like manlet soyboys so they really fuck themselves over even if they win the troon game.

I'm tempted to agree, somewhat. The best-passing one I met seemed shy, polite, and not gentle so much as delicate. I thought he really needed some rough workouts or other challenges like that, because he looked like he'd be disrespected by women he interacts with and targeted by narcissists pretty quick.
I found out about the trans thing a few weeks later.

All other trans guys I know have bad facial hair. The kind that flags a guy as depressed or dangerous.

I guess it took me a long time to learn this stuff from trial-and-error, but they should know that, much like most guys (idk how it is for women), nobody will catch them when they fall. They get applause for being great initially or being great after a long time, but not until then.
A cool part of this is the ability to go down your own path and make something of yourself, but they should expect life to beat them down a few times along the way.

 

[Big Bobs Beepers]

Longtime lurker, first time poster

One of my oldest friends trooned out about 5 years ago after meeting some Tindr skank, and it wasn't a short process, it happened pretty soon after they got together. Since both of our moms worked at the same office around the time when we were born, they decided to introduce us to each other when me and the troon's brother were around 5, and he was 4. We were best friends for most of our lives after that. We would go on vacations to Chicago every year for the longest time together, and those were some of the happiest memories of my life. But when this green haired Genderspecial walked into his life, he was very quick to throw all of us under the bus. Around this time, I was more accepting of trannies, but you could say I was always kinda skeptical since it was really starting to take off when I was getting close to leaving high school. At first I tried to not think about it too much, but I should've known it was over when he started to look like a Metrosexual Joker, and I would've saved myself a lot of pain if I'd have. Anyway, so as time goes on, he starts to get really nasty, and I recall a time when he stormed out of his brother's graduation party because he got angry about how he and I used to say the word 'Fag', when were both 12 fucking years old, and he promptly blocks both me and his brother out of the blue later on, later he blocked his parents as well, only ever making contact with his dad again when he needed money to fix a broken toilet. After that, it was radio silence for a while

So in about August of 2022, the family's grandma, who's been suffering from dementia for a long time, was very clearly on her deathbed. And since I had moved to NYC in that time, I flew out to go and see my friend and his family since I could only imagine how painful the whole situation was, and I wanted to help out in anyway I could. So when I get to the small town the grandma lived in and unpack, she died about a day after I showed up surrounded by her family, all except the troon. Later on, I decided to take my friend out for a beer to try and make things a little better, and he tells me that he and his family tried to contact the brother multiple times when it was very clear the grandma was not going to be around much longer. So I decided to take a look at the troon's Facebook page and see what was going on. And wouldn't you know it, the whole time his grandma was slowly dying with a brain that had turned to oatmeal, he was complaining about getting fired from his dishwashing job in a nearby larger town, claiming the staff was transphobic for firing him because he put up a few trans pride stickers on the front window the restaurant, which they had told him not to do several times, even going as far as allowing him to put some up inside the restaurant. He even went as far as to organize a whole harassment campaign against the restaurant online, which lead to both bad reviews and even a few threatening phone calls to the staff from fellow troons who he rallied

And did he mention the passing of his grandma even once? Nope, just an endless thread of tranny bullshit

I ended up flying back a week later so I could attend the funeral. I know I can't replace the son they lost, but I try to keep in touch with them as much as I can. The whole thing makes my heart hurt, but even back then, it showed us all the truth about trannies, and there's no going back now. I know I have to take the good with the bad in life, but when the troon's dad told me that he still mourns him despite the fact he's not even dead, I felt it. Sorry if I rambled like the newfag I am, but this is the only place I really feel like I can get it off my chest online

Edit: grammer

 

[SIMIΔN]

And did he mention the passing of his grandma even once? Nope, just an endless thread of tranny bullshit

Thank you for sharing such a tragic story and thank you for joining the farms.
I was about to compare trooning out to heroin addiction, but it is much worse.
Whilst both chase-the-dragon of their initial lovebombed high, it is worse for the families, as an intervention by loved ones can save a heroin addict, but a troon has permanently removed their ability to have a full family life. Your neutered friend doesn't exist anymore, you are a better man than I am for being there for his family.

As for me, I've been lucky enough not to lose anyone; so this thread is just a reminder to value real life connection, and avoid webporn.
Unusually, it also made me far less sexist/queerphobic. As a queer or gender-non-confirming person is in real danger of falling into the 'trap' trap if you don't treat them as a full individual.

 

[Souji Tendou]

Lost myself and my boobs to this. Luckily I still pass as a woman even with testosterone, so all I need to do is stop taking it and change my name to a female one. (Ive always hated the one given to me at birth.)

Despite my detransitioning, I kept the troon name. Fuck the one given to me at birth.

 

[Ann Berlin]

Former butch lesbian, long-time-ago crush longtime friend is FTM now and getting teats yeeted next month. She already has male pattern baldness that's a striking contrast to her former thick full head of hair. I'm both glad and sad we never got together, I couldn't imagine dating a cute masc gal only to have her turn into a frog-voiced balding gender blob.,

So it's done now. I haven't seen her yet but we talked. Her voice is kind of lower but not really. It still feels like what you whittled some organs off now you changed your sex?
I have male friends and I have female friends I don't really give a shit how you come from the factory. But this person spent thousands of dollars and her youth to this cause and I don't believe she will find any happiness from it. Even spending it on scratchers or substances would have been more productive.

 

[Fapcop]

So it's done now. I haven't seen her yet but we talked. Her voice is kind of lower but not really. It still feels like what you whittled some organs off now you changed your sex?
I have male friends and I have female friends I don't really give a shit how you come from the factory. But this person spent thousands of dollars and her youth to this cause and I don't believe she will find any happiness from it. Even spending it on scratchers or substances would have been more productive.

Oof that fucking sucks! She got her zippertits?

Feels, man!

Thank you for sharing such a tragic story and thank you for joining the farms.
I was about to compare trooning out to heroin addiction, but it is much worse.

No doubt.

If you can avoid nasty pathogens like hepatitis (which is hardly rocket science), a heroin addiction is remarkably mild on the body.

You don’t have see the kind of permanent organ damage that alcohol or cocaine can wreck on the body.

Compare a couple of years of heroin with a couple of years of trooning out, and there’s no doubt what’s worse.

And not only do the heroin addict get their opiate induced blissful high, they also walk away without mutilations, missing organs or permanently fucked up endocrine systems.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

I know I can't replace the son they lost, but I try to keep in touch with them as much as I can.

I flew out to go and see my friend and his family since I could only imagine how painful the whole situation was, and I wanted to help out in anyway I could.

There have been similar stories in the thread. You're a good person and those other kiwis were too. It's sad when a friend becomes a better son/relative than a blood relative, but it really do be like that sometimes.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

and ever since then I've had to keep multiple locks on my door because this motherfucker still tries to come over every now and then to screech at me.

Provided this isn't embellished, consider getting a restraining order. I suppose alternatively, getting one of those stupid surveillance cameras just to have visual evidence of his being there in the event you need to file a mundane police report - chances are he'd be carrying his phone on his ventures, the geolocation of which can be used to track a person's movement for the purposes of verifying such claims. From your description he's probably harmless, but the point of this is moreso to ensure he gets the message that he's not welcome back.

After all, the only possible gain to be had from screaming at you is to try to guilt you into essentially supporting him again, so that looks like his end-goal. Man sounds too lazy to provide for himself otherwise. See, I've heard that "I had a traumatic upbringing" line quite a lot when it comes to people who refuse to support themselves and have to be led by the hand to everything - like getting a job. Man's plan was to move away from home... but not get a job? Like, nevermind college, how do you pay rent without income? Ah! A partner's purse-strings?

Once upon a time, these people learned to grit and bear and overcome their various burdens, however unfair the world was, and try to eke out an imperfect living. Unfortunately far more common today is that they just leech off of people, to the point where ludicrously hair-brained schemes -- like, "I should harass the woman who dumped me so she'll make me tendies again" -- are chosen over figuring out how to support yourself with that background in mind. IE, it's a crutch they won't give up. Louts prey on peoples' pity, to the chagrin of people who genuinely need it.

 

[Fapcop]

, consider getting a restraining order.

That’s a weird way to spell “Shotgun”?!

 

[NerdShamer]

That’s a weird way to spell “Shotgun”?!

Well it takes an lot of restraint not to use it on an retarded ex.