Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Tasty Tatty]

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I don't know what the real story is about Jazz, because I don't trust any of these people as far as I can throw them when they offer their narratives. Imo homo attraction is one thing (that's why animals will suck each other's dicks or whatever) but being intractably "gay" is just as much of a culture-bound illness as being a troon.

Anyway, that's neither here nor there. What I really wanted to point out is that there's a subtly different version of preferring a trans kid over a gay one. It isn't "wahh I'm so homophobic!! I'd rather cut my kids dick off than have a gay kid!!" (That's a great narrative for self-pitying homos to prove how oppressed they are, but it's not always the case.)
The other version, most often seen in idiot liberal boomers, goes more like this: "Being gay is going to ruin my kids life because he's going to end up struggling. He'll be seen as a pervert or someone who chose it, he won't be taken seriously in his marriage, etc. If he's trans though, people will understand that's a serious medical condition. They won't think he's a deviant or pick on him. And he'll be able to marry a nice man and have a normal life."
Now obviously that's dumb to think and it doesn't work that way (troons are even crazier and don't pass, etc), but that's what boomers were taught. That's what everybody was taught up until 5 minutes ago. Maybe you faggots think "hey, that's all 'homophobic' too!" or whatever, and maybe you're right. But it isn't always as cut and dried as "his mom decided gay is gross and hated him so much she wanted to chop his DICK off!!!" Like most idiots who mutilate their kids, they actually think they're doing a good job. Plus, they get special attention and ass-pats, too. Even a whole TV show.
God, just bring us another flood, tbh

You're into something here. I think the issue is that the word "homophobia" has also been misused into retardation and people don't get what it's really supposed to mean.

"-phobia" is an irrational fear or disgust that would make you act equally irrational at the object of your fear and limites your own life because of it. It's not homophobia if you've never interacted with gay people before and you're worried if they will pass it to you if you touch them. You know what else is not homophobia? Religious reservations about homosexuality. As wrong as they can be, these reservations are based in a set of conclusions and the fact that many religious people think they can be cured is misguided compassion rather than fear. It's not irrational to think that God will punish your son for being gay. It's only irrational if you don't believe in God.

In fact, I'd say the word only exists to shame people who, when the first gay rights movements came out, knew nothing about homosexuality and had valid questions and criticisms: "No, I'm not a degenerate, you're irrational and mentally ill!"

Gonna say what I previously said: anybody is an ally until the gay kid is your kid. Also, anybody can believe gender doesn't matter until it's your ass the one about to be pounded by a black abominable "woman". Jeanette is young enough to have grown up knowing that boys playing with dolls doesn't mean they're gay, but until it was her own child doing it, one can't know how you will react, ally or not.

 

[Dylan]

@Tasty Tatty You're insufferable, I would even say sometimes your input is detrimental to the discussion.
We have documented and archived information to know the motives behind Jeanette's decisions, there is no more room for speculation.
I'm starting to think the forum gets astroturfed.

 

[Fapcop]

Jeanette is young enough to have grown up knowing that boys playing with dolls doesn't mean they're gay, but until it was her own child doing it, one can't know how you will react, ally or not.

And again: There’s no reason to believe that the Jennings’ trooned out their son because they thought he was gay, aside from a theoretical “Maaaybe it happened like this!”


And yeah, sure… There’s a slightly larger than zero chance of them trooning Jazz because homo.

Just like there’s a slightly larger than zero chance of them doing it because Papa Jennings is a irredeemable pedofork and knew he couldn’t resist his sweet young boy ass.

I still say that the ACTUAL reason is a combination of Jennifer’s narcissism and listening to VERY bad advice/near trans-grooming behavior from her fucked cousin.

 

[all4mom2]

Not to defend any of them, but I believe Jeanette was sincerely convinced Jazz would off himself if not allowed to troon out. She, in turn, convinced Greg and the siblings. They honestly believed they were saving his life. Heck, maybe Debbie believed it, too; a chapter of the dissertation was dedicated to those (we now know bogus) suicide statistics. The tragedy occurred when their own selfish agendas took over (Debbie with her doctorate, and Jeanette with her new career as a media star) and precluded the course set in motion from ever reversing itself because by then, being made a public spectacle, it was a fait accompli. The push for him to transition physically was "the sunk cost fallacy." They couldn't, having invested everything, afford to be wrong. By that time, they couldn't even afford to admit to themselves that it was a mistake.

 

[Fapcop]

Not to defend any of them, but I believe Jeanette was sincerely convinced Jazz would off himself if not allowed to troon out.

It certainly sounds laudable.

Except for the part where JAZZ WASN’T EVEN EIGHT.

But otherwise I agree.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

We have documented and archived information to know the motives behind Jeanette's decisions, there is no more room for speculation.

No, we don't. This is a falsehood.

We have the official version, not the real one. The motivations behind Jeanette is that Jazz decided he was a girl when he was one year old and they all agreed that they needed to help him to transition so he wouldn't die.

There is no way that a kid that young would be aware of his own gender. The one behavior that caused it all, Jazz being sure of being a girl when he was a toddler, is a lie because it's impossible that this happened. The Vagina Fairy, Jazz drawing vaginas, and all those things, those things they have made up or exaggerated to explain Jazz' behavior, which could have been real or not. We will never know if Jazz started this behavior on his own (whatever reason) or if it was planted.

Sure, the speculations are gonna take us nowhere because there are so many different scenarios that could have happened, but that's not the same as accepting that the version the Jennings are giving us are real and it really happened as they claimed. They are lying. Even if Jeanette acted because she honestly feared her kid would kill himself, she's still lying if she claims Jazz was so aware of himself when he couldn't even properly talk.

 

[Fapcop]

Pretty fucking shameful that a group of random spergs like us could apparently do a better job at taking care of Jazz than her “oh so understanding and supportive” family.

Like when Jazz wanted to go to some gay little art college, but her parents were pushing her to go to Harvard.

And it ended exactly like folks in here predicted.

No, we don't. This is a falsehood.

We have the official version, not the real one. The motivations behind Jeanette is that Jazz decided he was a girl when he was one year old and they all agreed that they needed to help him to transition so he wouldn't die.

There is no way that a kid that young would be aware of his own gender. The one behavior that caused it all, Jazz being sure of being a girl when he was a toddler, is a lie because it's impossible that this happened. The Vagina Fairy, Jazz drawing vaginas, and all those things, those things they have made up or exaggerated to explain Jazz' behavior, which could have been real or not. We will never know if Jazz started this behavior on his own (whatever reason) or if it was planted.

Sure, the speculations are gonna take us nowhere because there are so many different scenarios that could have happened, but that's not the same as accepting that the version the Jennings are giving us are real and it really happened as they claimed. They are lying. Even if Jeanette acted because she honestly feared her kid would kill himself, she's still lying if she claims Jazz was so aware of himself when he couldn't even properly talk.

I’m sure Jazz said some things like “I want to be a girl mom!”

But only a garbage tier parent confused by her gender well poisoning shrink relative, would understand that as an objective wish instead of as a little boy idolizing his busy parent and trying to get her attention.

 

[Julius Rosa]

Victoria was not "for the show." Amir was "for the show." Even pre-pubescent children develop crushes, as we all know, and so can Jazz.

Of course Victoria was "for the show." The Victoria storyline followed a familiar pattern - the "friend" (also a creation of "the show") suggested a "fixup", Victoria got together with Jazz a small number of times and then disappeared, the show dragged her back years later for some manufactured and completely forgettable "ex drama" in which Victoria was sent to a show-manufactured "mixer" and said hi to Jazz.

I never sensed any kind of chemistry between them. Victoria was incredibly cool, Victoria was very beautiful. Like every other "romantic interest" on the show, Victoria had a role to play, and in Victoria's case, she played it very well. But there was no genuine flirting or sparkle from either one. What I did sense was that, not only did Jazz admire Victoria, Jazz wanted to BE Victoria. But not in any kind of romantic or sexual sense, just envy and admiration.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

But only a garbage tier parent confused by her gender well poisoning shrink relative, would understand that as an objective wish instead of as a little boy idolizing his busy parent and trying to get her attention.

That and... most kids that small don't even know how sex works. That is, what differentiates boys and girls besides hair and clothes. If Jazz never say, had a bath with his older sister, which he might well not have, there's a bit of an age gap, he might not even have known girls didn't have penises.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Like when Jazz wanted to go to some gay little art college, but her parents were pushing her to go to Harvard.

Pomona's actually a really good school. It's one of the Claremont colleges, which include Pomona College, Scripps College, Claremont McKenna College, Harvey Mudd College, and Pitzer College.

Per Wikipedia: "Pomona has the lowest acceptance rate of any U.S. liberal arts college as of 2021 and is considered the most prestigious liberal arts college in the American West and one of the most prestigious in the country."

It just doesn't have the name recognition of Harvard.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

Hey, nothing wrong with being gay and little. I imagine Jazz would be much happier if he was basically the dwarf from Fantasy Island.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

Hey, nothing wrong with being gay and little. I imagine Jazz would be much happier if he was basically the dwarf from Fantasy Island.

 

[Fapcop]

Pomona's actually a really good school. It's one of the Claremont colleges, which include Pomona College, Scripps College, Claremont McKenna College, Harvey Mudd College, and Pitzer College.

Per Wikipedia: "Pomona has the lowest acceptance rate of any U.S. liberal arts college as of 2021 and is considered the most prestigious liberal arts college in the American West and one of the most prestigious in the country."

It just doesn't have the name recognition of Harvard.

Pomona would be perfect for a weird little asexual failure like Jazz.

He’d get to sit and paint and socialize sleep his 12 hours a day. When he’s on SSDI years from now, it would be one of his fondest memories.

But his parents wanted to BRAG about their little Jazz and be able to say that their kid goes to Harvard.

(Despite the fact that at some level they MUST know that Jazz will be living with them forever. The dude is in his 20ies, can’t get up by himself, never had a job and gets his dilating and medicine regime controlled by his mother. Harvard? Come the fuck on!)


A shame.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Pretty fucking shameful that a group of random spergs like us could apparently do a better job at taking care of Jazz than her “oh so understanding and supportive” family.

Yep. As much as we make fun of these people, I want Jazz to be happy. Or as happy as he can be given his situation.

When we say that he could end up like David Reimer, it's not wishful thinking, it's sadly an statistic. He was 30 and seemed to have accepted what he was and tried to live the best he could. He still killed himself.

 

[Unabomber Eleven]

More family vacation stupidity (seriously, did any of the Jennings children ever get off the tit?)



Too bad they don’t hit you back….



Jazz giving up on physical activities? Shocking!

Jazz’s smile looks….forced….

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

More family vacation stupidity (seriously, did any of the Jennings children ever get off the tit?)

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Too bad they don’t hit you back….


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Jazz’s smile looks….forced….

Christ, Zander can't even go skiing without putting on a PRIDE sweatshirt (nevermind that sweats are a poor choice for skiing).

 

[Fapcop]

More family vacation stupidity (seriously, did any of the Jennings children ever get off the tit?)

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Jazz’s smile looks….forced….

Wowza… Looks like Jazz lost a little weight, which makes his fridge like upper body even more noticeable.

Look at him next to his mom.

They’re about the same height, but Jazz is built like a brick shithouse, and is about as wide as his brothers, next to his (comparatively tiny) mother.

Also note that big fucking skull.

Hormones have really fucked up his body.


And Sanders?

He really is a pathetic, not too bright Jon Lovitz looking fucker, isn’t he?





I expect the similarity to increase and get funnier as he gets older and keeps losing his hair.

 

[all4mom2]

"First day of skiing"? Do they mean "this trip"?? Didn't Greg propose to Jeanette on a ski lift??? I find it hard to believe the siblings have never been taken skiing by their parents before, and I KNOW the parents have been skiing. Must be some BS lie for an episode of the show to make Jazz's physical awkwardness the butt of another joke.

 

[General Disarray]

"First day of skiing"? Do they mean "this trip"?? Didn't Greg propose to Jeanette on a ski lift??? I find it hard to believe the siblings have never been taken skiing by their parents before, and I KNOW the parents have been skiing. Must be some BS lie for an episode of the show to make Jazz's physical awkwardness the butt of another joke.

Yes they did go skiing before and that's when Jazz did the faceplant. I thought I remembered something like that so I did a VERy quick search and here's the most relevant post that came up for "skiing" ... sorry for not going the extra mile to link that vid, dinner is just coming out of the oven.

*snip*
The rest of the episode was overwhelmingly meh. Jazz shaving his legs and needing his mother's help was funny, especially when Jazz said he hadn't done so in over two years. Then Jazz's gay friend saying that Jazz should bring his mother to Harvard was baffling, on top of Jazz asserting that Harvard was a difficult school in terms of the actual difficulty of the classes, rather than just being a difficult school to get into. Since there was no scene of Jazz falling on his face like in the skiing episode, I give this one a 6/10.

 

[all4mom2]

That was fake indoor ski "practice" in Florida.