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I give him a break on Witcher because low iq fanboys deny the obviously not accidental similarities and an Elric show was cancelled for being too similar to the Witcher.
Razörfist / The Rageoholic / xRazorfistx / Daniel Paul Harris - Hipster Metalfag. Game Journo-Doesn't Play Games He Reviews. Thief Fanfic Author. COOMER AND GROOMER.
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Meanwhile in the real world admitting where you stole your ideas from makes it MORE likely that you get sued
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I used to do that back in the day, and I used to believe Razorfist on the Elric/Witcher plagiarism thing, until I took a closer look at Elric. Elric is a royal who is fighting against the Empire he used to be a part of, who is a master wizard with an evil sword named Stormbringer that hungers for blood and souls. Meanwhile, Geralt is a supernatural pest control agent who runs around killing supernatural freaks for money, who uses garbage spells and at most, serves as a mentor for a child of great power named Ciri, who has a great destiny ahead of her and who is far from being similar to Stormbringer. (Danny-boy basically compared Stormbringer to Ciri in his plagiarism video, which is one of the stupidest comparisons I've ever seen.) They may have similar ideas and looks, but the two are nothing alike. It's like comparing a gender-swapped Princess Leia to Boba Fett. Or comparing a gender-swapped Luke Skywalker to fucking Soul Edge or Frostmourne.
That really is such a narrow definition for plagiarism. And ideas get shared enough in fiction that sometimes, someone might accidentally create something that "rips off" another work without having the intent to do so.
I argue that even if you cite your sources, it's still technically plagiarism unless you make it as a tribute or you add in something that makes it unique. And that plagiarism isn't necessarily that egregious a crime in a world like ours, where truly original ideas are in short supply, and so many authors are inspired by something else. After all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. If someone's ripping you off, it means you're doing a good job.
Depends on your pocketbook. Before Marvel was bought by Disney, Disney made the Incredibles, which were somewhat similar to the Fantastic Four. Disney was wealthy enough to hire lawyers that could argue otherwise. If it was a smaller studio that made such a work, Marvel would've sued them and might've even won.
If you're wealthy enough, even an obvious act of plagiarism will pass through the radar. That's why Marvel got away with making Thanos even though he's a blatant ripoff of DC's Darkseid.
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Well, I've suffered through the entirety of Danny's latest literary excrement, and boy this one was a doozy. I don't think I need to go too in depth because the same problems plague it throughout, the same ones as with the previous book only now seemingly in triplicate: ridiculous "notice me" word choices straight out of creative writing class, clunky sentence structure, a protagonist we're meant to think is always the smartest guy in the room yet constantly blunders into obvious traps and setups, two double cross scenes involving the same character, constant stupid alliteration that destroys the "dark fantasy" tone he's going for, and the adverbs, good God. I'm not a total anti-adverb zealot like Elmore Leonard, but maybe limit them to once a paragraph at most?
And above all else, it's boring. I'd easily put it in the same class as other infamous works like The Eye of Argon or Sean Penn's Bob Honey Who Just Do Stuff.
Here's a selection of passages I picked out as being particularly egregious as I went along:
^the guy giving all this exposition just had his kneecap shattered and is dying of blood loss in the sand btw
"It lacked the slovenly briar of fact" is one of those what-the-fuck sentences in league with TekWar's "The robot pimp said, disdainfully"
one of the dozens of notes at the end of every chapter to explain all the stupid made-up words. Wow, just like in the pulps!
here we get the "we live in a society" edgelord monologue
Here's where our femme fatale double crosses our hero for the second time in thirty pages, only to get double crossed herself, but then man who double crossed her immediately pulls another double cross, and so they all kill each other anyway. Brilliant.
I could pretty much post every page, but you get the idea. This book was exhausting.
There's also has an appendix section that takes up like half the length, but I didn't even bother with it. From what I gleaned it's just some pointless, masturbatory "world-building" that has no bearing on anything.
And above all else, it's boring. I'd easily put it in the same class as other infamous works like The Eye of Argon or Sean Penn's Bob Honey Who Just Do Stuff.
Here's a selection of passages I picked out as being particularly egregious as I went along:
^the guy giving all this exposition just had his kneecap shattered and is dying of blood loss in the sand btw
"It lacked the slovenly briar of fact" is one of those what-the-fuck sentences in league with TekWar's "The robot pimp said, disdainfully"
one of the dozens of notes at the end of every chapter to explain all the stupid made-up words. Wow, just like in the pulps!
here we get the "we live in a society" edgelord monologue
Here's where our femme fatale double crosses our hero for the second time in thirty pages, only to get double crossed herself, but then man who double crossed her immediately pulls another double cross, and so they all kill each other anyway. Brilliant.
I could pretty much post every page, but you get the idea. This book was exhausting.
There's also has an appendix section that takes up like half the length, but I didn't even bother with it. From what I gleaned it's just some pointless, masturbatory "world-building" that has no bearing on anything.
Oh definitely. its human nature after all.
I was just saying that in asia the gay shit stuck around whilst in europe it was more or less stamped out with the christian cultural revolution. The Renaissance brought it back big time, largely because it was a re-emergence of ancient roman and greek culture.
To be fair to the lad that wrote The Eye of Argon, he was just a teenager when he wrote it. Razor's excuse for trying to woo people with fancy words and drawn out sentences/paragraphs is less excusable.
I wonder if Razor ever had anyone test-read his stuff before publishing, to give feedback and critique. IF they did, they would have told him to cut the fat and get to the point. This reeks of someone who fell in love with their own writing to the point where they never considered what it looks like to an outsider reading it for the first time.
The only review i could find for the book on goodreads basically mirrored your complaints, except also pointing out weak characters and weak plots, and a failure to interweave lore and story, thus making the lore unimportant.
I think its perfectly fine to explain the made up words. its a good and optional way for people to understand the setting a bit better.
Though "treedog" is a bit obvious.
"treenegro is a racial slur"
"oh really?"
"aimed at people who live in trees"
"i am shocked."
My issue would be moreso with the naming conventions.
Feras-Sun sounds welsh-britonnic, Alcaire is clearly french inspired, and Tiax sounds Incan.
I dont want to tell others how to worldbuild, But maybe someone should tell Danny to stick to a single linguistic structure when worldbuilding for a specific region.
"the Lythfwaera tribes of the Wissenhoofstadt forest, who live in Zhang-cao trees, who live off of eating Nazambi berries".
Unless of course there is some sort of context im missing.
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The biggest problem with Razorfist is that he's using these novels to flaunt his vocabulary and writing skills instead of actually coming up with something new or genuinely enjoyable. That, and he's not a good a writer as he thinks he is. It's the same problem with Carl Benjamin where Richard Spencer rightfully pointed out that he wasn't as smart as he thought he was. That's why Danny-boy's writing is grating to people who read it, because he's not writing to get ideas across, he's writing to flaunt his skills as a writer, which isn't as good as he thinks.
For example, that bit with the tip of the arrow shown here:
That could easily be rewritten as:
"Tian glowered as an arrow was nocked onto a bow. The tip of the arrow was set aflame before it was loosed. As it flew in a straight line, it slammed into the wraith's other shoulder, causing it to react with a ghastly cry."
It's beginning to dawn on me that Danny-boy read through some dictionaries, but he didn't actually go to a proper writing class. This kind of shit would get him ratio'd by teachers who grade high school essays, much less teachers who read college-level papers.
For example, that bit with the tip of the arrow shown here:
That could easily be rewritten as:
"Tian glowered as an arrow was nocked onto a bow. The tip of the arrow was set aflame before it was loosed. As it flew in a straight line, it slammed into the wraith's other shoulder, causing it to react with a ghastly cry."
It's beginning to dawn on me that Danny-boy read through some dictionaries, but he didn't actually go to a proper writing class. This kind of shit would get him ratio'd by teachers who grade high school essays, much less teachers who read college-level papers.
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Holy purple prose, Batman!
What he is, is a fast-talker. By memorizing whole expressions instead of individual word meanings, he can string together fairly long blocks of spoken word without having to pause all that much. That's how he does those long takes on his video essays without using a full script. He's got bulletpoints, and he goes from one to the other without actually thinking much. He's got one or two sentences with substance, but everything around them is essentially just filler or premade sentences to give him time to think through the next "meaningful" sentence without having dead air or going "ahh" and "umm".
It's a fairly common strategy among lecturers and radio hosts, actually. It makes him sound smart, but every now and then he gets things mixed up and uses the wrong word without realizing it. One that stuck with me for a while was from one of his more serious videos where he said "fiduciary" when he clearly meant to say "financial". But since he didn't know the difference between those words because he clearly read the expression on some kind of technically-worded report, it wasn't caught on recording or when Gell edited the video.
Where am I going with this? Just pointing out that Danny operates very much like a redditor: pretend to know what you're talking about, and try to sound smarter than you actually are.
Razor has a fairly extensive vocabulary, but he's very bad at using it. It's pretty clear if you watch a few of his videos back to back that he leans very hard on a handful of expressions that he cycles through as time goes on. So yeah, he's not a good writer, because that's not where his linguistic technique is.
What he is, is a fast-talker. By memorizing whole expressions instead of individual word meanings, he can string together fairly long blocks of spoken word without having to pause all that much. That's how he does those long takes on his video essays without using a full script. He's got bulletpoints, and he goes from one to the other without actually thinking much. He's got one or two sentences with substance, but everything around them is essentially just filler or premade sentences to give him time to think through the next "meaningful" sentence without having dead air or going "ahh" and "umm".
It's a fairly common strategy among lecturers and radio hosts, actually. It makes him sound smart, but every now and then he gets things mixed up and uses the wrong word without realizing it. One that stuck with me for a while was from one of his more serious videos where he said "fiduciary" when he clearly meant to say "financial". But since he didn't know the difference between those words because he clearly read the expression on some kind of technically-worded report, it wasn't caught on recording or when Gell edited the video.
Where am I going with this? Just pointing out that Danny operates very much like a redditor: pretend to know what you're talking about, and try to sound smarter than you actually are.
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Those tricks work well when you're blabbing on Youtube, but it's harder to use when you're writing a book, because you'll be dealing with people who can and will take a second glance at what you wrote. That's why some people write better than they speak; when on the spot and asked to say something about a certain topic, they might freeze, but when they're behind a keyboard or a typewriter, they can pretty much type out an essay and second-guess every single word so that it fits the context of what they're writing. This is why Razorfist on Youtube can garner a decent following who are easily awed by his vocabulary, but when it comes to books, people can take the time to read what he wrote, see the flaws in his writing, and they can take him to task for it.
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Probably copes like "Look! The 90s American Box Art portrays it like Conan the Barbarian! Its 80s style action pulp!"
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What is and isn't weeb cringe, in Razorfist's eyes, is decided in the same way he decides whether or not something is plagiarism: it's plagiarism unless I like it. He rips off Thief for his novel and still loves Marvel superheroes like Daredevil despite Marvel ripping off DC characters like Darkseid and Deathstroke to make Thanos and Deadpool.
If he finds an anime or a Japanese video game he likes enough, he'll add it to his exclusion of his near-universal hate of all things weeb. It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't hate JRPGs and weeb stuff so much, because that just makes his "exceptions" towards things like Breath of Fire seem hypocritical. He's going to shit on JRPGs and their fans as a whole and call their formula stale, but this one game, he's all for it. People who promote cancel culture are bad, unless it's Michael Moorcock. Never trust milktoast conservatives, unless it's Trump. Anti-woke/non-woke media is good, unless it's weeb stuff. It's why Danny-boy winds up pissing off people who used to like him. He condemns entire segments of the entertainment business or entire genres as bad, and his fans follow suit, but then they see him make arbitrary exceptions based on his tastes, and the hypocrisy becomes too much.
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Mage Leader is right; Danny is a fucking sped.
>"You're a tiresome cur" she ejaculated
Someone was binging tranny porn as he was writing... weren't you Razoure?
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I really commend you guys who manage to read his books. I gave up on Long Moonlight after I read something about some bald guy who shaved his head to compensate for the fact he was balding but no one was fooled by it. I also tried listening to the audiobook but couldn't look past Danny's Stephen Russell impersonation.
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Here's the Japanese cover. Nowadays, you are a fool if you solely rely on the box cover.
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Ah, so *that's* why he hates the weeb shit: latent homosexuality and self-loathing.
And maybe I'm just tired, but I couldn't make heads or tails of what is going on in Danny's prose. Is anyone else having that problem?
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In case anyone wanted to read his second book or listen to him drone on in the audio book:
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One wonders just what Eve saw him flogging his meat to. One would expect it not to have been anything outright illegal, otherwise she would have likely sicced the cops on him, but I'm definitely betting on hypocritical.
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Something gay, something weeby.....or something that's both.
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If we need to litigate Elric again it was agreed at the time that the issue was a rare W for Danny-boy.
Elric and Geralt have the same nickname earned for the same reasons. It’s too similar and the excuse of coincidental tropes doesn’t wash.
This does not mean Elric and Geralt are carbon-copies or that the two franchises produce the same experience when you consume them. But Sapkowski and Witcher fans should eat their humble pie. Which is probably where Danny stumbles in his position.
Danny’s hatred of anime is overblown because all of his opinions are overblown and he doesn’t have a sense of humor about himself.
And as a racist myself I do think people need to have some healthy skepticism of Asians.
Granted, it’s mostly the non-japanese ones that suck.
Elric and Geralt have the same nickname earned for the same reasons. It’s too similar and the excuse of coincidental tropes doesn’t wash.
This does not mean Elric and Geralt are carbon-copies or that the two franchises produce the same experience when you consume them. But Sapkowski and Witcher fans should eat their humble pie. Which is probably where Danny stumbles in his position.
Danny’s hatred of anime is overblown because all of his opinions are overblown and he doesn’t have a sense of humor about himself.
And as a racist myself I do think people need to have some healthy skepticism of Asians.
Granted, it’s mostly the non-japanese ones that suck.
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The dad (as far as I can tell) of Historytube has responded to Danny's revisionism