Thunderf00t / Phil Mason - Single manbaby, angry atheist/anti-feminist Youtuber, attention whore

[KittyGremlin]

I used to really hate Musk when he was the darling of green energy, but then I learned more about him and thought he was funny even if he's a bit of a tard. Though even when I disliked Musk because I thought he was an NPC shill instead of just a wacky conman I couldn't imagine being as butthurt about the guy as Phil is. Though Phil has always been a bit of a sperg when it comes to anything he believes in, the guy just can't accept that sometimes, things don't matter.

That's because Phil wishes he was as relevant and recognized as Elon.

 

[Retink Retunk]

Can't tell if it's a recent phenomenon or not but it seems like some people are just really prone to ____ Derangement Syndrome these days. Whether it's Trump, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Musk, certain personality types seem to be dependent on always having a consensus-approved #currentthing boogie man to seethe about nonstop. Feels like a corollary to mass formation where they need an external person to focus all of their internal anxiety/anger on.

It's not new, because before now these same people were doing the same thing with Anita who at least deserved it but they still made her out to be far more important than she really was. I know the thing that made me not like ThunderF00t back in the day was seeing a video of him talking to some random Christians in a park somewhere. They were having a debate at some gathering and he's standing there grabbing his head in over emotes and going "Oh my god! That is a malformed argument, bwahahahaha!" over and over while the random Christian dude is just waiting for him to finish being a tard.

I was a fan of the atheist thing back then but videos like that always bothered me as it wasn't about having a discussion, it was about acting like a smug fuck up.

The scale and homogeny of who they go after is much more uniformed now though, as the media stokes that flame on a specific target which causes more people to attack and feel justified in being bigger dickheads about it.

 

[Fancy_Robot]

I was a fan of the atheist thing back then but videos like that always bothered me as it wasn't about having a discussion, it was about acting like a smug fuck up.

Christopher Hitchens carried a lot of the atheist community at the time online, guys like thunderf00t, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Sargon, Armored Skeptic were largely charmless buffoons who used what little social graces they had to entice people into their autistic rants about some Christian fossil that most of the public doesn't take seriously already. Hitchens was bloated, blotchy, drunk but also very charming and had the gift of gab and was able to make most arguments palatable to some degree to anyone. Bill Maher doesn't really talk about religion that much anymore, plus he never has new guests on and keeps recycling the same oldies over and over again and his show' is insanely boring. Penn Jillette more or less same thing, irrelevant, not a big topic anymore.

Of course there was the disaster that was r/atheism and Atheism+ was social justice warriors driving a stake in the heart of what was left of the community. What a sad pathetic ending to one of the strongest original online movements.

 

[Retink Retunk]

Penn Jillette more or less same thing, irrelevant, not a big topic anymore.

Penn Jillette is a faggot. He's a libertarian that supports Gavin Newsom, so he can go fuck himself with his retarded shit.

I actually still like Bill Maher though, because even if I don't agree with him and he's a smug prick, but he never claimed to be anything else and still at least tries to keep free speech as a thing. That and he called Milo a fag on television when he was a guest.

 

[Fancy_Robot]

Penn Jillette is a faggot. He's a libertarian that supports Gavin Newsom, so he can go fuck himself with his retarded shit.

He supported Hilldog no less! It's one thing to not be in on Trump but HILLARY?!? Mommy dearest herself? He was for every COVID restriction, Joe Biden and all. This is a literal quote from him

"I don't care if Joe raises taxes. I don't care if Joe helps add stupid, counterproductive regulations. I don't care about anything except love and kindness."

This is coming from rugged cowboy Penn Jillette who thought government programs were evil and should be done away with. You know even ones llike food stamps or Medicare... shit that actually keeps people alive.

 

[Retink Retunk]

I don't care about anything except love and kindness.

I really fucking hate people who say this kind of shit, they're always full of shit and just use it to justify their retarded takes. I forgot what I was watching recently, but some dude was talking about how he stopped liking Musk because of how cruel it was to fire a bunch of Twitter people and make a show of marching them out the building publicly, and then in the next sentence he's praising TikTok which is a Chinese Communist Party asset that has literal concentration camps for ethnics and oppresses it's people on a massive scale. The dude was some tech millionaire if not billionaire too, so it wasn't like he wasn't aware of it.

Fuck all of these "love and kindness" people, all they care about are mean tweets and completely overlook anything that actual fucks people. It's the most shallow and gay shit in the world and it makes me MATI.

If someone preaches to you about how all that matters is love and kindness, they're probably a child rapist, don't trust them.

 

[Toolbox]

Seeing this thread made me think back to an idea about a thread for the general community of scientist or scientist larpers wasting their time constantly "debating" mostly popular crackpot conspiracies like flat earth. Well, mostly flat earth. So many of these people are essentially a-logs of the conspiracists and make their life entirely revolve around getting in fights with them to make themselves easily appear intelligent by facing a weaker opponent at all times.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

popular crackpot conspiracies like flat earth. Well, mostly flat earth.

Flat earthers are Retards, people who are obsessed with Flat Earthers are Annoying Retards

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Also his videos where he shits on impossible obviously money grabbing kickstarter projects, are always amusing. Especially the ones where the ''company'' tunes in to say he's wrong and they're a step away from mass production.

I remember a video he did debonking the idea that NASA was going to send a helicopter to Mars and that it would actually fly in that atmosphere. I think that was the only "correction/retraction" video I've ever seen him do but it was more of an explanation of how he wasn't actually wrong since he just did some math wrong or some shit. It's been a while and I'm not going to look it up but that's how I remember it.

My favorite example of this is Thunderf00t's debonk of SpinLaunch, an obviously shady money-grab pretending to launch rockets into orbit with a centrifuge. If they even attempted their idea everybody within a half-mile of the thing could die!:

Spoiler

Except that shit is not only plausible but they built the thing and are well into successful launch tests. NASA has even partnered with them.

Also: https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...est-Innovative-Mass-Accelerator-Launch-System

 

[byuu]

I remember a video he did debonking the idea that NASA was going to send a helicopter to Mars and that it would actually fly in that atmosphere. I think that was the only "correction" video I've ever seen him do but it was more of an explanation of how he wasn't actually wrong since he just did some math wrong or some shit. It's been a while and I'm not going to look it up but that's how I remember it.

My favorite example of this is Thunderf00t's debonk of SpinLaunch, an obviously shady money-grab pretending to launch rockets into orbit with a centrifuge. If they even attempted their idea everybody within a half-mile of the thing could die!:

Spoiler

Except that shit is not only plausible but they built the thing and are well into successful launch tests. NASA even contracted with them.

Also: https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...est-Innovative-Mass-Accelerator-Launch-System

These "new" tests look identical to the one in Thunderf00t's video.
And the NASA contract is just for a test.

Here's a recent critical article of Spinlaunch: https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/physics-spinlaunch/
tl;dr It's very impractical and better ballistic launch systems have existed for decades.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

These "new" tests look identical to the one in Thunderf00t's video.
And the NASA contract is just for a test.

Here's a recent critical article of Spinlaunch: https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/physics-spinlaunch/
tl;dr It's very impractical and better ballistic launch systems have existed for decades.

I'm not arguing whether it's a good idea or not, just how TF put out the Busted video in the same league with his others that are clearly scams. The videos I posted are more recent than his as was the NASA agreement. The point is it exists, "works" (in as much as a payload can be sent into space with their contraption) and given the scale of what they've spent/built it doesn't seem to me like all the other get-rich-quick schemes from his other vids.

TL;DR: At least real science is being done there. Good or bad something scientifically useful is being learned with it. If TF had integrity he would at least acknowledge that.

TF is a very jealous man. His hate-boner for Musk is (justifiably IMO) rooted in the misallocation of resources to his various frauds that could've gone to real science and people like him. Preferably him, in fact. His beef with Brexit is that he could never find a job in the UK and instead has to travel to/from eastern Europe for work which is now "more difficult" - like an extra line at Customs and needing a passport. Boo hoo. Same thing with his Ukraine war support.

 

[byuu]

I'm not arguing whether it's a good idea or not, just how TF put out the Busted video in the same league with his others that are clearly scams. The videos I posted are more recent than his as was the NASA agreement. The point is it exists, "works" (in as much as a payload can be sent into space with their contraption) and given the scale of what they've spent/built it doesn't seem to me like all the other get-rich-quick schemes from his other vids.

They haven't sent anything into space. Their payloads reached only up to 10km, that's around the altitude of normal commercial flight.
Solar Roadways exist too and "work". They're still a dumb idea that exist only to burn through investor money.

TL;DR: At least real science is being done there. Good or bad something scientifically useful is being learned with it. If TF had integrity he would at least acknowledge that.

What real science? What peer-reviewed studies did Spinlaunch publish?

His beef with Brexit is that he could never find a job in the UK and instead has to travel to/from eastern Europe for work which is now "more difficult" - like an extra line at Customs and needing a passport. Boo hoo. Same thing with his Ukraine support.

So Spinlaunch is great because Thunderf00t was pro-Brexit and you don't like him?

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

They haven't sent anything into space. Their payloads reached only up to 10km, that's around the altitude of normal commercial flight.
Solar Roadways exist too and "work". They're still a dumb idea that exist only to burn through investor money.


What real science? What peer-reviewed studies did Spinlaunch publish?


So Spinlaunch is great because Thunderf00t was pro-Brexit and you don't like him?

Solar roadways are a middle-aged couple in their garage apeing for tax-dollars with a bunch of crooked politicians glamming on for the ride. Same with Musk. As far as I can tell the centrifuge thing is privately-funded. That's a pretty big difference. Who cares where people decide to invest their own money?

 

[byuu]

Solar roadways are a middle-aged couple in their garage apeing for tax-dollars with a bunch of crooked politicians glamming on for the ride. Same with Musk. As far as I can tell the centrifuge thing is privately-funded. That's a pretty big difference. Who cares where people decide to invest their own money?

You were the one going on about the NASA contract. But I'm not even American. So I don't care what private investors and the American government wastes their money on.
It's still a retarded impractical idea. I don't understand what's wrong about pointing that out.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

You were the one going on about the NASA contract. But I'm not even American. So I don't care what private investors and the American government wastes their money on.
It's still a retarded impractical idea. I don't understand what's wrong about pointing that out.

I think NASA just agreed to provide them a test payload to try launching with their contraption to see how things go. To collect data. You know, science? I have no problem with that minimal risk of taxdollars considering the other party is assuming all capital risk for everything else.

This is already far off-topic and I never intended on trying to defend them. IMO there's nothing to support or defend other than their right to try (without me paying for it).

 

[byuu]

I think NASA just agreed to provide them a test payload to try launching with their contraption to see how things go. To collect data. You know, science? I have no problem with that minimal risk of taxdollars considering the other party is assuming all capital risk for everything else.

So you're saying the NASA contract is a nothingburger?
Finally we agree.

 

[Retink Retunk]

You know, what I realized about ThunderF00t, is he reminds me a lot of The Amazing Atheist back in the day when he was making anti-feminist videos. You might agree with him that solar roadways are retarded and impractical, but unless you already hate the idea he's criticizing you won't watch it because of his smugness and jealousy, and when you like some things but dislike others on a topic, such as Musk, he's unbearable.

Flat earthers are Retards, people who are obsessed with Flat Earthers are Annoying Retards

Ok, but who cares? They're completely irrelevant and a joke. I get making fun of them on here, but if you're debunking scams and trying to show real science it's a waste of time talking about a handful of retards, half of which are doing it as a joke.

Did he ever go after the troon menace which pushes pseudo science, pills, and mutilation on children? They actually have power and impact on people's lives, especially the most vulnerable of which because they're targeting children.

 

[Toolbox]

Did he ever go after the troon menace which pushes pseudo science, pills, and mutilation on children? They actually have power and impact on people's lives, especially the most vulnerable of which because they're targeting children.

No, he'd rather go after easy targets that'd never risk him getting deplatformed or losing any percentage of his precious audience.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Ok, but who cares? They're completely irrelevant and a joke.

They are an easy target for "SCIENCE" lovers to target.

 

[FuckMeGentlyWithAChainsaw]

Seeing this thread made me think back to an idea about a thread for the general community of scientist or scientist larpers wasting their time constantly "debating" mostly popular crackpot conspiracies like flat earth. Well, mostly flat earth.

I've listened to a shitton of flat earth debates as background noise and I can say conclusively that the debunkers, as spergy as they often are, are not particulary funny. Flat earthers are funny, but their community is dying and their material is so heavily censored it gets hard to find.
For example there was this funny clip of Nathan Thompson yelling at school children about the flat earth, but they deleted his channel and the only clip I can find is embedded by this neckbeard complaining about it: