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[Smellee Cat]

Here's a write up by a disappointed TiF u/One_Heron1455 on a Dr. Morrison in Seattle, WA
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This is in regards to Dr. Morrison in Seattle, WA


Hi y’all! It’s been a pretty emotional ride and I have wanted to take some time before posting this, but I think I’m ready. This is in regards to the new plastic surgeon Dr. Morrison at Harborview medical center...

I want to warn folks before going to this program for phalloplasty or just give people the information they need to make an informed decision before opting for surgery with this team.

As trans people sometimes we don’t believe we deserve a lot when it comes to the medical system. We know how history has treated us and sometimes we just need to get things done in order to feel right in our bodies. BUT we do deserve better, and there are actually a lot of surgeons around the country that believe this or have heard us and have changed the way they provided care for us.

The only things I have to say about Dr. Morrison and his team is that he chose to put me through a very traumatic experience after I came out of surgery and what feels like to only get his first surgery under his belt. The three main things I have to say about him is…

1. He did not tell me I was going to be his first patient ever under his current team as well as the hospital. He was given ample opportunity, and chose to not disclose that information to me. As far as I know, I am now the first documented trans person to have phalloplasty in the state of Washington. Not because I consented to that, but because he withheld that information. He was the only surgeon out of him, the urologist, and the micro surgeon to have touched a trans masc body for bottom surgery. I am now thankful I chose to not have UL.
2. None of the nursing staff was trained whatsoever before I came into the hospital. No one knew what was going on with my body, or knew what phalloplasty was, and what it entailed. Because it was a learning experience that I was unaware of. They were people oogling at me all week as well as wanting to see my dick to the point where we had to tell them if it wasn’t medically necessary, they had to go away. My friend, who is an experienced phalloplasty caregiver saved my life in this entire situation, because he was able to stay with me every night and advocate for me when I was on drugs.
3. Lastly, a lot of people do not think that we deserve private rooms because of hospital capacities, etc. but we do and in most cases most surgeons around the country definitely offer private rooms because this is such a private and sensitive surgery. My first four days I was put in a shared room with a random stranger that was withdrawing from heroin and had night terrors. He also was blasting his music, combative with nurses, and was caught vaping at one point in the room with me. It wasn’t until my friend and me demanded they put me in a private room that the nurses tried their best to change my situation. They were just as upset as we were that we had been put in the situation. The nurses felt like they had been cornered because they were not given the opportunity to learn about my situation beforehand. On the second to last day, they finally fought for me to get a private room because they knew how traumatizing and important it was.

And in the end we have still had to fight for postop appointments to be scheduled. My surgeon has yet to actually schedule a postop with me in the system so right now we just have word of mouth that I might have an appointment with him on 2/3. My surgery was on 1/9. I currently do not have skin on my arm because they chose to wait 2 weeks after surgery to do my skin graft. I don’t have a wound VAC on my arm because they did not submit it to my insurance in time. Currently they are making me and my friend change my dressings twice a day for an advanced wound care situation..

There’s so much more I could say about the situation and a mountain more things they did wrong but for right now, this is my shortest version of what I have gone through with this hospital. If you have a consultation with them coming up or you have questions about how this program feel free to shoot me a private message and we can talk more about how to protect yourself, or give you the information you need to make an informed decision.

Shane Douglas Morrison, MD, MS
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The 3-4 based nurses coming away from this is *chefs kiss*

 

[Kiislova]

The 3-4 based nurses coming away from this is *chefs kiss*
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>Friend
>Experienced Phalloplasty caregiver

Nice euphemism for oral sex I guess?

 

[Fapcop]

Are there any reports of t4t trying to penetrate an amhole with a rotdog? It sure would show them that nature shall not be mocked.

As a firm believer in the Simulation theory, I’m pretty sure the horror you’re describing would just break the simulation, and we’d all wake up inside whatever pods were stored in, Matrix style.

(The ultimate proof that troons in fact DO ruin everything.)

Aside from that, rotdog in amhole would be near impossible.

You can put a rotdog into a hard plastic shell and put it inside a vagina, because the vagina is flexible and can stretch as needed.

Amholes otoh got none of that flexibility and are literally just a cavity.

Rotdogs tend to be fucking THICK and have more girth than actual penises, so chances are it would never go in. And forcing it in could lead to some horrific damage.


EDIT: MORE PROOF THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE FUCKING LUNATICS!



Who’s this butcher Inglefield you may ask?

Well…

 

[sperginity]

it’s not a minor inconvenience. This bitch’s hubris has me MATI.

they are going to be the one ultimately paying the price, no need to get mad. Many people like to shrug off medical complications at first because the alternative is freaking out about it. Freaking out means having to admit a mistake, which no one likes to do. Rest assured that after the grind of dealing w/this for several years they will know exactly how badly they fucked up.

Are there any reports of t4t trying to penetrate an amhole with a rotdog? It sure would show them that nature shall not be mocked.

Anyway,
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Imagine a virgin kid thinking he can consent to having stunted genitals for life, nothing to penetrate with or be penetrated with. Good on these parents (both autistic and trans, by the way) for not blindly affirming this kid's wish like they did everything else up to this point.

these parents are retards. maybe a special educator should explain that you shouldn't give things to children just because they want it really badly.

It is fucking stupid to agree to puberty blockers w a plan to do genital surgery and then let the kid veto any exams of those organs. The parents should be there for all the exams for safety reasons of course, but someone needs to explain to this kid that getting surgery means some doctor or nurse examining your genitals every couple of hours for several days and then at regular intervals afterwards until it is no longer deemed necessary. Also, those exams will hurt, unlike the exams that are done in childhood. The parents need to be told that they have stunted their child's brain development so they will never get a more mature understanding of what genital surgery means for their life.

I used to work at a hospital that did bariatric surgery (late 1990s). Then as now, the biggest stumbling block in getting insurance to pay for it was the psychiatric evaluation, and even if insurance did approve, the surgeon rejected clients all the time because he didn't think they were good candidates.

I'm definitely glad "Aspire Assist", which was a method that gained some foothold in Europe, never caught on here in the States. That no American insurance carrier agreed to pay for it to me spoke volumes. Look it up only at your own risk.

I remember aspire! Its the surgical bulimia device (that doesn't rot your teeth).

what really floors me is that the FDA approved this piece of shit. I am inclined to believe that insurance companies wisely saw how death fats would become worse rather than better if given a purge-valve that they can use without having to bend over.

I swear to God TiFs are some of THE MOST feminine and sensitive women I have ever seen. Not a good look at all if you are trying to pass for a man.

imo this is part of why so many of them troon out in the first place. many of these women were not nearly so emotional until they hit puberty. then they are faced with being powerfully swayed by things as dumb as tv commericals, they are mocked in media and in their personal lives for being this way. being able to switch teams seems like a magic solution. None of them are ever told that a trait like this only evolves because its purposeful for the species. from a modern perspective it looks like needless suffering. I would imagine that in less civilized times and places, a sensitive woman is more likely to do a good job of keeping her kids alive and well.

 

[Wikipedia]

Have you guys noticed how rotdogs look like Twinkies. Or one of those bags that the bank gives you when taking out a bunch of quarters

 

[AfghanBlue]

Are there any reports of t4t trying to penetrate an amhole with a rotdog? It sure would show them that nature shall not be mocked.

Anyway,
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Imagine a virgin kid thinking he can consent to having stunted genitals for life, nothing to penetrate with or be penetrated with. Good on these parents (both autistic and trans, by the way) for not blindly affirming this kid's wish like they did everything else up to this point.

Good on them?
They are troons who have trooned their kid and plan to chop its dick off, their only worry is how DEEP HE CAN BE FUCKED

 

[Fapcop]

Good on them?
They are troons who have trooned their kid and plan to chop its dick off, their only worry is how DEEP HE CAN BE FUCKED

There’s is nothing even mildly ameliorating about that post.

Everything: From letting the kid troon out, to treating a dumb teenager like he’s an adult competent to make difficult decisions with lifelong consequences, and letting him “decide” that he doesn’t want his body inspected by a doctor is deeply fucked.

These people need to have their child taken away from them, and have a court order in place against ever breeding again.

Why the hell social services let two autistic trannies have a child in the first place is a travesty and wouldn’t have happened in a sane world.

 

[Det. Frank Washington Esq]

Haven't been here in a while or frequently as I'd like (because, life) so I'll spare you all with serially replying to old post, even if the mods are gracious enough to create a greatest hits text wall of my sperging. However, I will say this. You can have the most profound, intellectually bulletproof, morally neutral take on why GRS, puberty blockers, and hormone therapy is not only a physically zero-sum game, but the absolute wrong way of attacking one’s dysphoria, from a source that literally has no skin in the game (whether that’s a: an AI learning algorithm that’s been downloaded the results of all surgeries and medical history in the whole of humanity, and therefore the ability to project our ability to reach the absolute extent of medical and surgical innovations in the future; b: an alien whose watched about 1000 years of globe spinning and figured us out; or c: GOD HIMSELF) presented in the most elementary and emotionally sensitive conveyance that even a 5-year-old would say, “Yep, makes sense…” and there would still be troons ready to hop on the table. Therefore, I am grabbing popcorn and enjoying the circus rather than staring with mouth agape at the spectacle.

 

[AfghanBlue]

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Who’s this butcher Inglefield you may ask?

Well…

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No-one else in the UK who can do 'bbl/body feminisation surgery', or no-one in the uk who will do it?
that aspire assist thing is FUCKED . imagine..imgaining that into existence, instead of just like, telling deathfats to drink a pint of water with thier meal

 

[Otterly]

that aspire assist thing is FUCKED . imagine..imgaining that into existence

It’s what every bulimic and Ana Chan has dreamt of and imagined since the start of time.

 

[LimeRikki]

What do deathfats and troons have in common?

Both believe that making healthy choices is oppression.

Counting calories, realistic excerise goals and food portions/choices?

"Fataphobic bigot! You want everyone who has to endure the struggle of inhabiting a larger body to suffer and die!!!"

Taking therapy seriously, addressing any underlying trauma, exploring all other avenues of treatment first, addressing any other comorbid mental illnesses, and taking a time to do the research and give serious thought to whether or not any surgeries or medical interventions are worth it before undergoing them?

"Transphobic bigot! You want everyone who has to endure the struggle of living in a cis normative heropatrophinic expalidociois* society to suffer and die!!!"

*With the exception of actual gender dysphoria, reasons for IDing as trans /medically transistioning cannot be contained by the binary; or words that make sense.

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[Fapcop]

What do deathfats and troons have in common?

Both believe that making healthy choices is oppression.

Counting calories, realistic excerise goals and food portions/choices?

"Fataphobic bigot! You want everyone who has to endure the struggle of inhabiting a larger body to suffer and die!!!"

Taking therapy seriously, addressing any underlying trauma, exploring all other avenues of treatment first, addressing any other comorbid mental illnesses, and taking a time to do the research and give serious thought to whether or not any surgeries or medical interventions are worth it before undergoing them?

"Transphobic bigot! You want everyone who has to endure the struggle of living in a cis normative heropatrophinic expalidociois* society to suffer and die!!!"

*With the exception of actual gender dysphoria, reasons for IDing as trans /medically transistioning cannot be contained by the binary; or words that make sense.

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What is ACTUAL gender dysphoria?

Because the more I look, the more I see that it’s a bunch of BS.

I used to believe that there were some ACKSUAL gender dysphoric people, but so far all I see are folks who have managed to convince themselves that they have this issue.

A psychological condition just like being anorexic.

And just like we don’t treat anorexia with liposuction, you can’t treat “dysphoria” with surgery.

 

[JPG]

There’s is nothing even mildly ameliorating about that post.

Everything: From letting the kid troon out, to treating a dumb teenager like he’s an adult competent to make difficult decisions with lifelong consequences, and letting him “decide” that he doesn’t want his body inspected by a doctor is deeply fucked.

These people need to have their child taken away from them, and have a court order in place against ever breeding again.

Why the hell social services let two autistic trannies have a child in the first place is a travesty and wouldn’t have happened in a sane world.

It's more sinister than the parents 'letting' the kid troon out. They made it happen, they have used the kid as a fashion accessory. To try and give their own worthless lives some semblance of meaning. I quote:

"my 'daughter' is still too young for bottom surgery. However she's been vocal about wanting it for several years now."

Who has filled their childs head with SRS surgery? Obviously the nutjob parents who make crazy posts like that on reddit.

 

[LimeRikki]

It's more sinister than the parents 'letting' the kid troon out. They made it happen, they have used the kid as a fashion accessory. To try and give their own worthless lives some semblance of meaning. I quote:

"my 'daughter' is still too young for bottom surgery. However she's been vocal about wanting it for several years now."

Who has filled their childs head with SRS surgery? Obviously the nutjob parents who make crazy posts like that on reddit.

I view GD as under the same umbrella as Body Identity Integrity Disorder, but instead of feeling like they need to cut off their arms or legs they cut off their dicks.

This is a gross oversimplification of my belief here but I think you get the idea lol

But this means that actual GD is super rare, and thus massively over diagnosed. TIFs have their trauma swept under the rug and are told they must really be men. TIMs get a boner when wearing a skirt but not jeans, so they tell themselves they must be women.

Still an oversimplification but whatever.

 

[(The REAL) Jack Torrance]

She's made some unrelated comments on Reddit but no updates about her surgery. Makes we wonder if it was postponed or something.
Last real update we had was her saying she went to the preparatory appointment on the 3rd.

Elephant Dick posted an update on Instagram, she did indeed get the next stage of surgery but no other info

 

[femme oddjob 2.0]

Oh here's something we've never seen before. u/mphoenixx is in the process of getting a tattoo to cover up her arm scar.
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Peonies and a 2 headed snake, outline only so far. Shading in a month.

Over the graft site there was no real pain, just felt the buzz of the tattoo machine. I swear there was a split second where she went over a spot on the graft and I felt a zap in my burial like a fragment of a nerve or something in my arm tried to connect to my shaft but sent the sensation to my burial bc of nerve hookup. Idk it was too weird to process lol.

No extreme swelling or anything. She said she saw no issues with the graft taking the ink. Soaked it right up just fine.

I know he’s saying that doesn’t hurt but (not to PL) as someone with a fair few tattoos that makes me cringe so fucking much.

I wonder if removing such a large amount of skin deadens the nerves? I would have thought it would be the other way round for some reason. I guess after having so many major surgeries this is a walk in the park but this really bothered me - everything else is such an alien concept in terms of just how much recovery it is.

 

[Bluefeet]

What is ACTUAL gender dysphoria?

Because the more I look, the more I see that it’s a bunch of BS.

I used to believe that there were some ACKSUAL gender dysphoric people, but so far all I see are folks who have managed to convince themselves that they have this issue.

A psychological condition just like being anorexic.

And just like we don’t treat anorexia with liposuction, you can’t treat “dysphoria” with surgery.

I'm more and more convinced every day that 'gender dysphoria' is a social contagen, ironically similar to anorexia. Essentially it exists because mentally ill people latch onto the idea as an explanation for their misery.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

I’m horrified at how little the likely permanent facial nerve damage she has seems to bother her, or dissuade her from continuing with her delusions. It appears that she has trigeminal nerve, specifically branch three aka the mandibular nerve, damage to me, which is a lot more serious then “biting into an apple” lols. She could have permanent difficulty with chewing, facial expressions, speech, etc etc…the list goes on and on. The drooling, abnormality of the orbicularis oris (which connects to a ton of other important facial muscles) are all very worrying signs that something is wrong.

The fact that her surgeon hasn’t referred her to a specialist who can diagnose/treat what is clear nerve damage is mind boggling to me. Pardon the power level, but during mandatory clinical observations in grad school I saw many patients with facial nerve damage and language disorders, and the degree to which their lives were affected left a significant impact on me. People who had to deal with strangers judging them harshly because they assumed they were drunk due to slurred speech, or retarded because they couldn’t express themselves anymore, inability to swallow and being terrified of aspirating…it’s not a minor inconvenience. This bitch’s hubris has me MATI.

Trigeminal nerve damage? Phew, I thought you were going to suggest that it was something seriously detrimental to quality of li-

Oh wait. That trigeminal nerve. "The pain can be so intense that it’s difficult to bear physically and mentally." Sounds like a life saving surgery to me! I'm sure it'll all work out.

 

[Meiwaku]

What is ACTUAL gender dysphoria?

So dysphoria is something that people can feel regardless of gender like a lot of times women will feel dysphoric towards their breasts because maybe they don't think that they are attractive or perhaps they started puberty early and have DDs in the 5th grade. They also could have gotten pregnant and now hated their uterus. Some girls even really freak out over being "too tall" or conversely guys try to cope for being manlets. Stuff that doesn't make them question their womanhood, but instead a part of them that makes them extremely uncomfortable that they want gone. Same to people who want to chop their leg off for no reason or become blind.

It's very hard to get a grasp on gender dysphoria because I do believe that it has some existence in that for whatever reason your parts feel wrong.

However, I do not believe in treating it with transition or surgery as too often you get the people who clearly were raped, groomed, people who are fetishists, homosexual etc. Etc.... The funny part is the brain studies that they've done on self-identified trans men and Butch lesbians come out as literally the fucking same. Basically meaning that you are not fucking trans you're just a woman coping.

Blanchard did a very good typology for TiMs. It's the one that pisses off troons the most and where terms like HSTS (homosexual transexual) and AGP come from.

I've never met a transgendered person who did not have some sort of sexual trauma (though I have heard of them) and definitely none that haven't had another mental disorder ('tism included) that naturally is never fucking treated before they transition or even during/after! The comorbidity is basically 100% I'm just from my personal experience I've seen much higher rates of cluster B personality disorders in trannies then even in our other lol cows or in people who are homosexual.

I've talked with trans people before professionally and the way that they explained their gender dysphoria a lot of times was that it was something that they cannot ignore but at the same time if they change it they are unsure if that would do them any better as nothing that they have tried before has squashed these thoughts and living as a the sex they were born as makes them extremely unhappy, however they also find themselves unhappy living as the opposite sex although this unhappiness is speckled with bits of joy inbetween. To what effect that this is varies.

 

[Fapcop]

Elephant Dick posted an update on Instagram, she did indeed get the next stage of surgery but no other info

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To absolutely nobody’s surprise, she’s the most dainty, feminine little thing ever.

This is as funny as it is tragic!