The Sacred Cow of Homosexuality - lmao i'm gonna get so much shit for this

Was After The Ball the gay playbook from the 1980s that the majority of gays followed to nearly the letter until gay marriage was passed? I remember a youtube video talked about this old gay playbook that sounded almost exactly like how it all seemed to went down.
Late 80s, early 90s, sounds about right.
 
In hindsight I think that not treating gender deviations as a mental illness (like it was done until the 70's) was a huuuuuuuge mistake because the way mental meds are now we might actually have found the gay equivalent of antibiotics. Furthermore there were several studies where they found that most trans tendencies could be stopped with antipsychotics, and of course when you search for that now the first results are paid-for articles boosted by paid-for SEO from lgbt orgs/rackets saying "Its not because.......its not! okay?!".

When the whole gay marriage thing was going on I was too busy dealing with real problems in my real life to worry what a bunch of rich fags and crazy fundies were bickering about, and after it happened the first thing I thought was "at least they will all STFU about this".

Turns out those lgbt orgs/rackets like money, A LOT, so they needed a new cause to keep donations coming.

Enter trans, the ugly cousin of the lgb, the one that always got the least support even from the lgb themselves. Thing is if they are so unlikable that means the lgbt orgs/rackets will have to work for years and spend billions to prop trannies up, and they need to get those billions to do so and you're going to donate because you don't want them to call you a transphobe bigot do you?

See what I mean?
 
Queers can't enjoy themselves if a single person isn't simping for them, sounds about right.
Not true. There are a subset of edgy gays who don’t care for globohomo. Or think that it shouldn’t be pushed into the mainstream.
Personally, I don’t care for pride parades.

The only type of queers that can’t enjoy themselves are the ones that they think they’re rebelling against mommy and daddy.

Lmao, intolerance of those who disapproved of homosexual activity on moral or religious grounds was rearing its ugly head as early as 2008, and it wasn't even unheard of in the early 00s or even the 90s.

After The Ball by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen actually describe in detail on how to push propaganda to make the fag community out to be innocent victims, and their opponents, no matter how well meaning or moderate, to be ignorant bigots and barbarians. Even the authors admitted that such propaganda was complete horseshit, but said it needed to be pushed because it was for an "ethically good" reason.

The fact is, homosexuality is an alternative lifestyle, an aberration, a disordered sexual behavior, whether gay marriage is recognized or not.

And most people who practice an alternative lifestyle are infamously insecure about it to the point that they lash out against anyone who has problems with it, even if said people do not impose their morality on others. Homosexuality may not be as blatant a denial of reality as transgenderism, but it's a rebellion against nature regardless.

The fact that faggots and troons have only gotten even more intolerable and entitled after 2015, when they were given everything they could have ever wanted on a silver platter, speaks volumes.

As it turns out, the same sort of propaganda pushed by the likes of Marshal Kirk and Hunter Madsen was so successful at eroding opposition to gay marriage, the only thing left to do is to simply give the faggots what they wanted. Figuratively speaking, give them enough rope to hang themselves. Allow them to turn themselves into case studies on why most human societies throughout history criminalized or at least restricted homosexual behavior.



TL;DR, there was always an undercurrent of heterophobia and intolerance towards those who consider homosexual behavior to be sinful. They are also extremely jealous and angry at heterosexuals who can reproduce naturally and have a better chance at raising children who don't turn out to be absolute speds or delinquents. It doesn't matter if you refrain from imposing your morality onto them, they feel oppressed by your mere existence regardless.

How do you explain Camille Pagilia? She is okay with religion and accepts that homosexuality is “unnatural”. There are some homosexual men that are okay with those facts.

Not everyone is sensitive about people’s moral sanctions against homosexuality. For every drama you hear about homosexuals making a fuss about someone being “intolerant” there are plenty of others that just shrug. Not everyone wants to pretend to be an oppressed victim.
 
There are outliers, the odd right-wing fag who preferred the closet and hates rainbows, the occasional lesbian who sees her place as noodling on the margins of society with fellow eccentrics rather than getting in people's faces, but mainstream LGBT has gone from the love that dare not speak its name to the love that will not SHUT THE FUCK UP THIS IS A WENDY'S.
 
After The Ball by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen actually describe in detail on how to push propaganda to make the fag community out to be innocent victims, and their opponents, no matter how well meaning or moderate, to be ignorant bigots and barbarians. Even the authors admitted that such propaganda was complete horseshit, but said it needed to be pushed because it was for an "ethically good" reason.
Got more about that book and the alleged lies? the wiki entry is suspiciously short.
 
There are outliers, the odd right-wing fag who preferred the closet and hates rainbows, the occasional lesbian who sees her place as noodling on the margins of society with fellow eccentrics rather than getting in people's faces, but mainstream LGBT has gone from the love that dare not speak its name to the love that will not SHUT THE FUCK UP THIS IS A WENDY'S.
Being a 'right-wing' homosexual is like pushing a man off of a building and ordering that he should stop halfway down.
 
Got more about that book and the alleged lies? the wiki entry is suspiciously short.

The entire book is archived here:


A fairly good video on it is here:


Here's a few quotes from the book I've picked up here and there:

There's a naive notion among folks in general—especially among gays—that you can argue a person out of a prejudice (such as homohatred) by overwhelming him with facts and logic about the group he hates. This is untrue....

Logically speaking, nothing whatever is either disgusting or sinful, except as one feels it to be so...

...if we're going to enter into arguments with [those who disagree with us] we'd better have a strong emotional appeal in our back pocket.

...it gets a little tiresome to keep seeing and hearing [gays who]... damn all proposals as politically incorrect to precisely the degree that they rely upon cunning manipulation rather than pugnacity....

...thus, propagandistic advertising can depict homophobic and homohating bigots as crude loudmouths...who are 'not Christian.' It can show them being criticized, hated, shunned. It can depict gays experiencing horrific suffering as the direct result of homohatred—suffering of which even most bigots would be ashamed to be the cause....

Note that the bigot need not actually be made to believe that he is such a heinous creature, that others will now despise him, and that he has been the immoral agent of suffering....Rather, our effect is achieved without reference to facts, logic, or proof....

...The objection will be raised...that we would 'Uncle Tommify' the gay community; that we are exchanging one false sterotype for another equally false; that our ads are lies; that that is not how all gays actually look; that gays know it, and bigots know it. Yes of course—we know it, too. But it makes no difference that the ads are lies; not to us, because we're using them to ethically good effect, to counter negative stereotypes that are every bit as much lies, and far more wicked ones....

....The trick is to get the bigot into the position of feeling a conflicting twinge of shame, along with his reward, whenever his homohatred surfaces, so that his reward will be diluted or spoiled. This can be accomplished in a variety of ways, all making use of repeated exposure to pictorial images or verbal statements that are incompatible with his self-image as a well-liked person, one who fits in with the rest of the crowd....When he sees someone like himself being disapproved of and disliked by ordinary Joes, Direct Emotional Modeling ensures that he will feel just what they feel—and transfer it to himself. This wrinkle effectively elicits shame and doubt...our effect is achieved without reference to facts, logic, or proof. In short, Jamming succeeds insofar as it inserts even a slight frisson of doubt and shame into the previously unalloyed, self- righteous pleasure. The approach can be quite useful and effective—if our message can get the massive exposure upon which all else depends.

Quite frankly, I think the book deserves its own thread somewhere.
 
The entire book is archived here:


A fairly good video on it is here:


Here's a few quotes from the book I've picked up here and there:



Quite frankly, I think the book deserves its own thread somewhere.
I love Mike Winger (except for his Sacramentology). Thanks for sharing, I didn't know he made a lecture about this topic.
His series on women's Ordination was very good, also his Mormon/JW apologetics.
 
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Note that the bigot need not actually be made to believe that he is such a heinous creature, that others will now despise him, and that he has been the immoral agent of suffering....Rather, our effect is achieved without reference to facts, logic, or proof....
This reads like a totalitarian propaganda manual.

Funny how the only thing the very short wiki article says about that book is that the gay community totally ignored this book and didn't apply any of it, no sir!
Quite frankly, I think the book deserves its own thread somewhere.
Go for it.
 
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There are outliers, the odd right-wing fag who preferred the closet and hates rainbows, the occasional lesbian who sees her place as noodling on the margins of society with fellow eccentrics rather than getting in people's faces, but mainstream LGBT has gone from the love that dare not speak its name to the love that will not SHUT THE FUCK UP THIS IS A WENDY'S.
Being a 'right-wing' homosexual is like pushing a man off of a building and ordering that he should stop halfway down.

Can we stop with this narrative. For one thing, the modern LGBT community is full of straight people who want to rebel against their parents or virtue signal. It turns out that there were gay Republicans before the whole rainbow parade.
 
I'm just in shock that gay men in first world countries are still getting HIV and even full blow AIDS. I follow a lot of left leaning blogs and even there, people are still shocked despite with advances like ''prep'' (a medication to prevent HIV) and years of education on AIDS prevention that they're still getting infected and not listening to advice over safe sex. They still don't give a fuck, do they?
 
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