Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[mindlessobserver]

The US Army has seriously neglected its ammunition stockpiles for decades. Especially ground pounder ammo. One of the lasting legacies of the Ukraine War will be how its served as the biggest live fire exercise in decades. Akin to the Spanish Civil War.

Entire TMs and FMs are being rewritten in real time.

 

[Mav52ri]

Edit: Ha, and here's Poland already asking for compensation. Didn't take long.

Russia-Ukraine war live: Germany to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine, reports say — as it happened

Media reports say German chancellor Olaf Scholz has decided to send the vehicles and allow other countries to send their German-made tanks

www.theguardian.com

The Poles really have gotten the whole nickel n' dimeing practice down to an artform.

Also I'm hearing that only a company's worth of Leopards will be sent (though maybe more, idk if anyone want's to correct me on that), if I'm getting this right that's only around 15 tanks, just like with the Challenger's from earlier, against hundreds of Russian T-72/T-80/T-90's, it's not gonna make a blind fucking difference, and that's not even mentioning the training, maintenance or logistic issues.

 

[PrimeRadiant]

Rumours are that the new units will not be formed in Ukraine, but in some locations in NATO, mostly from ukrainian soldiers trained already in NATO centres. Also it will be continuation to servcie ukrainian gears in NATO countries like PzH 2000.

So probably they will have new large unit with full logistics. And it will cross broder as a whole.

If I will guess, it will be ready around march-april. I bet we will see a new counteroffensive with this force shortly after that. I'm keeping my thumbs on Belgorod direction, but probably it is too optimistic - the fast way to force ruzzia to stop war is to take war into their land.

Its the fast way for russia to decide to mobilise another half million men.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Neocons on suicide watch

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The MAGApede lowIQtards are nearly all anti-Ukraine. Also most of the Amerifat right is brainwashed into being pro-Russian, with minor exceptions.
People on the right that are pro-Ukraine are mostly East Europeans, rest are lunatic shitlibs that think Ukraine is some democratic paradise.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/24/us/politics/pentagon-ukraine-ammunition.html

Pentagon Will Increase Artillery Production Sixfold for Ukraine - The New York Times | Ghostarchive

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Surely this has no chance to go wrong..

It's a new world. Gotta keep up. Let's be realistic here, we won't have 2019 back. That era has passed.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The Poles really have gotten the whole nickel n' dimeing practice down to an artform.

Also I'm hearing that only a company's worth of Leopards will be sent (though maybe more, idk if anyone want's to correct me on that), if I'm getting this right that's only around 15 tanks, just like with the Challenger's from earlier, against hundreds of Russian T-72/T-80/T-90's, it's not gonna make a blind fucking difference, and that's not even mentioning the training, maintenance or logistic issues.

The Leapord II is largely a proof of concept design. Europe does not have alot of them. The big story is the Abrams. While the Bradley was designed to fight Russian BMPs and their dismounted infantry, the Abrams is designed for armored spearheads. In Eastern Europe. The Abrams outclasses the T62 and the T72 in every metric. Speed, distance, accuracy, range and rate of fire. It's the modern day equivalent of a magazine fed semi auto from vietnam going up against a breach loading rifle from the US civil war.

Only the Russian T90 could, on paper, go toe to toe with an Abrams and not get wrecked. But I won't hold my breath on the front. For one thing the T90 has performed miserably in Ukraine, losing to even Ukrainian Dismounted infantry and T72s.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

The MAGApede lowIQtards are nearly all anti-Ukraine. Also most of the Amerifat right is brainwashed into being pro-Russian, with minor exceptions.
People on the right that are pro-Ukraine are mostly East Europeans, rest are lunatic shitlibs that think Ukraine is some democratic paradise.

Good lord, talk about letting the mask slip there.

Edit:
lol I mean seriously, you niggers keep arguing how the US supporting Ukraine is a good thing for the US, but then you post shit like this.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Good lord, talk about letting the mask slip there.

Edit:
lol I mean seriously, you niggers keep arguing how the US supporting Ukraine is a good thing for the US, but then you post shit like this.

Wait, what "mask"?
People accused me of a lot of things in this topic, but lying is not one. I was quite forthcoming with my opinions, so I'm rather curious what you felt was a mask and what were supposed to be my real opinions I was hiding.
It's no secret I despise shitlibs, and that includes cuckservatards, which are at best 90s shitlibs. Not even - Clinton had more right wing politics than Republicucks in 2023.
I always acknowledged the uneasy temporary "alliance" with people I heavily despise and dislike, for this one instance alone. Once the war is over, it's back to bullying these people.
Or you thought I love/like Ukraine, or that I am some sort of liberal democracy enjoyer? lmao.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Wait, what "mask"?
People accused me of a lot of things in this topic, but lying is not one. I was quite forthcoming with my opinions, so I'm rather curious what you felt was a mask and what were supposed to be my real opinions I was hiding.
It's no secret I despise shitlibs, and that includes cuckservatards, which are at best 90s shitlibs. Not even - Clinton had more right wing politics than Republicucks in 2023.
I always acknowledged the uneasy temporary "alliance" with people I heavily despise and dislike, for this one instance alone. Once the war is over, it's back to bullying these people.
Or you thought I love/like Ukraine, or that I am some sort of liberal democracy enjoyer? lmao.

Lol okay. I'm going to just simplify your kvetching down to one simple question. Is there a good reason why the US should be supporting Ukraine? By this I do mean the common man in the US.

 

[nukelol]

Also @nukelol please spell better and write out entire words.

wUt rU taKin vout/ mE sPell fIneee11!11!!!

 

[AgendaPoster]

Lol okay. I'm going to just simplify your kvetching down to one simple question. Is there a good reason why the US should be supporting Ukraine? By this I do mean the common man in the US.

The common man is not relevant at a geopolitical stage. The common man does not represent the US. Common man in the US is a 60% white polarized mutt with an IQ in rapid collapse and dependent on multiple psychotropic drugs while eating shit food and having 30BMI. Sorry to say but this average person, often seen riding some fatmobile in a store or MAGA rally, is a lost cause.
Now for what actually matters, Geopolitics and POWER.
From an idealistic perspective that should work for shitlib biomass, the US is fighting against an authoritarian Russian regime that's dangerous to democracies nearby.
From a neocon/neolib perspective, the US is weaking one of its two main competitors at the tiny cost of like 7% of the military budget or something. It's also a good opportunity to revive NATO and increase the cohesion of the US-Europe alliance, while distancing it from Russia.
From an economic perspective, the US will rebuild Ukraine and put all its corporations in it and open up another US-aligned market in the area.
From a military perspective, the US gets to test its weapons against the Russian forces, which is extremely useful. It also gets to observe the Russian military and Wagner, hence the AWACS in the area monitoring 24/7.
Again, still curious what mask you thought I was metaphorically wearing?

 

[nukelol]

Lol okay. I'm going to just simplify your kvetching down to one simple question. Is there a good reason why the US should be supporting Ukraine? By this I do mean the common man in the US.

its all abt hegemony. always has been, always will be. if the shoe was on the other foot russia would do the same.

 

[just a banana]

The (Duran) guys here, after talking about how they think the reshuffling amongst Ukraine's bosses is probably about isolating Zelensky, go into an interesting speculation about how the tanks being promised aren't really intended for the front, but to help Poland grab hold of western Ukraine later on.
my version of bullet points I remember:

>Poland's absurd whining about WWII reparations from Germany might be to remind everyone Galicia/Lviv used to be theirs
>it wouldn't matter that Ukies don't know how to use Leopards 'cuz Nato Poland can
>the timing wouldn't matter if they are for later, not for now
>Nato would be able to come away from from the shitshow with something to show for it
>Russia doesn't seem likely to object too much
>stuff being sent to Ukraine is usually conveniently staged in Poland first

seems possible to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XtrMST9iDQ

 

[Fatniggo1488]

The common man is not relevant at a geopolitical stage. The common man does not represent the US. Common man in the US is a 60% white polarized mutt with an IQ in rapid collapse and dependent on multiple psychotropic drugs while eating shit food and having 30BMI. Sorry to say but this average person, often seen riding some fatmobile in a store or MAGA rally, is a lost cause.
Now for what actually matters, Geopolitics and POWER.
From an idealistic perspective that should work for shitlib biomass, the US is fighting against an authoritarian Russian regime that's dangerous to democracies nearby.
From a neocon/neolib perspective, the US is weaking one of its two main competitors at the tiny cost of like 7% of the military budget or something. It's also a good opportunity to revive NATO and increase the cohesion of the US-Europe alliance, while distancing it from Russia.
From an economic perspective, the US will rebuild Ukraine and put all its corporations in it and open up another US-aligned market in the area.
From a military perspective, the US gets to test its weapons against the Russian forces, which is extremely useful. It also gets to observe the Russian military and Wagner, hence the AWACS in the area monitoring 24/7.

>Now for what actually matters, Geopolitics and POWER.
And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

I tried solving the echo chamber issues but people at A&N are literally trannies, and opposing opinions apparently make the thread not worth using for them. I reminded them to follow the rules once, and they proceeded to have a multipage meltdown. One day I will just threadban everyone not following the rules, and force both sides to mingle.

Put me in, coach!

 

[AgendaPoster]

I remember when this was considered by US to be unacceptable escalation.

I tried solving the echo chamber issues but people at A&N are literally trannies, and opposing opinions apparently make the thread not worth using for them. I reminded them to follow the rules once, and they proceeded to have a multipage meltdown. One day I will just threadban everyone not following the rules, and force both sides to mingle.

merge-merge-merge
force the conflict
they'll have to adapt lmao

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Bradley's with US Army Markings removed on the Autobahn in East Germany

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In entire train of Abrams and Bradley's with US Army markings removed in North Germany.

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It's like the concept of irony doesn't exist in Germany @mindlessobserver. Amazing.

Again, to be expected when someone who doesn't know anything other than what a neocon said thinks he's being clever but actually shows his utter ignorance of the people in this conflict.

Casual glance at the numbers, and it seems the US intends to send Ukraine enough Tanks and Bradley's to outfit an entire division. Which is around 300 units. The number of Leapord IIs being talked about can probably outfit two more brigades.

I'm beginning to see why Russia and its shills is starting to make increasingly nervous noises. An entire division of Abrams, Bradley's and Himars can do alot of damage over a few weeks. Even if Ukraine can't keep them maintained long term, it's enough to cause alot of havoc in the short term.

Don't know what sort of time frame we are running here though. Both the Bradley and the Abrams are designed to be easy to use. Experienced T72 and BMP crews should have no trouble using them. Issues will emerge once it becomes time for maintenance and so on.

There isn't even an entire brigade of holhols that can crew them. That means Americans will have to, which means Americans deaths, regardless of performance.

The US has neither the high moral ground going into Eastern Europe to war against Russia to keep its Forever Wars going but more important it doesn't have the resources.

I must say, the necons have done a brilliant job of getting the US into yet another pointless war through the back door but when the body bags start arriving at Andrews I expect a turgid and pithy post of pathos from you. Like clockwork.

The common man is not relevant at a geopolitical stage. The common man does not represent the US. Common man in the US is a 60% white polarized mutt with an IQ in rapid collapse and dependent on multiple psychotropic drugs while eating shit food and having 30BMI. Sorry to say but this average person, often seen riding some fatmobile in a store or MAGA rally, is a lost cause.
Now for what actually matters, Geopolitics and POWER.
From an idealistic perspective that should work for shitlib biomass, the US is fighting against an authoritarian Russian regime that's dangerous to democracies nearby.
From a neocon/neolib perspective, the US is weaking one of its two main competitors at the tiny cost of like 7% of the military budget or something. It's also a good opportunity to revive NATO and increase the cohesion of the US-Europe alliance, while distancing it from Russia.
From an economic perspective, the US will rebuild Ukraine and put all its corporations in it and open up another US-aligned market in the area.
From a military perspective, the US gets to test its weapons against the Russian forces, which is extremely useful. It also gets to observe the Russian military and Wagner, hence the AWACS in the area monitoring 24/7.
Again, still curious what mask you thought I was metaphorically wearing?

Great, another Butthurt Belter who thinks he can dictate American foreign policy. The world, and the United States, would have been better off if the USSR has genocided you lot after the war. I hope they do so this time in Iron Curtain 2.0.

You think you're making great arguments for US involvement but all you are doing is sowing hate and anger in the people of the United States who pay the taxes that fund my nation. This isn't 1965; we can see what a shithole your gyppo state is, and how your people expect someone to else to fix it for them. We have better things to spend our money on, like our southern border or inner cities, and wait, here's a novel concept, our own people.

 

[FrickinFrackinFruckin]

So how long until Joe Dementia Biden decides to send our troops to Ukraine because the Ukrainians don't have the training to use our equipment?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

>Now for what actually matters, Geopolitics and POWER.
And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

 

[AgendaPoster]

The world, and the United States, would have been better off if the USSR has genocided you lot after the war. I hope they do so this time in Iron Curtain 2.0.

Now this is a completely new level of pure, unadulterated MATI. Full respect for you being a distant, not personally involved American citizen lmao.
Not gonna respond out of janny respect.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Now this is a completely new level of pure, unadulterated MATI.
Not gonna respond out of janny respect.

It's not a novel or uncommon sentiment. Also, don't be coy:

The common man is not relevant at a geopolitical stage. The common man does not represent the US. Common man in the US is a 60% white polarized mutt with an IQ in rapid collapse and dependent on multiple psychotropic drugs while eating shit food and having 30BMI. Sorry to say but this average person, often seen riding some fatmobile in a store or MAGA rally, is a lost cause.

Something something stones and glass houses.