Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[prolapsed_cranium]

Uh. No. The Abrams and the Bradley function like any vehicle of their type. An experienced crew can figure out how to use them in a day. In a week they can have mastery.

lmao

The plant in Lima (the only manufacturer) makes about 10 Abrams a month. Using old M1s from the Sierra Army Depot would make more sense

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

The plant in Lima makes about 10 Abrams a month. Using old M1s from the Sierra Army Depot would make more sense

It's almost as if the US doesn't actually care about Ukraine winning. To the dismay of all the simps.

 

[Burgerasssand]

I hope both sides bleed themselves dead but Russia using rapists and serial killers as cannon fodder is based as fuck.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

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The plant in Lima (the only manufacturer) makes about 10 Abrams a month. Using old M1s from the Sierra Army Depot would make more sense

He isn't exactly wrong, most of what the tank crew learns during training is strategy on how to maneuver a tank through various landscapes and tactics for dealing with specific threats. This is largely the same between all tank programs across the world. A tank crew from Ukraine would be learning how to operate the equipment and service it in the field, they already know how to operate their country's doctrine for armor.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

He isn't exactly wrong, most of what the tank crew learns during training is strategy on how to maneuver a tank through various landscapes and tactics for dealing with specific threats. This is largely the same between all tank programs across the world. A tank crew from Ukraine would be learning how to operate the equipment and service it in the field, they already know how to operate their country's doctrine for armor.

Well the issue is moot as far as the Abrams goes. Get ready for Leopard tank spergenation instead.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

He isn't exactly wrong, most of what the tank crew learns during training is strategy on how to maneuver a tank through various landscapes and tactics for dealing with specific threats. This is largely the same between all tank programs across the world. A tank crew from Ukraine would be learning how to operate the equipment and service it in the field, they already know how to operate their country's doctrine for armor.

He is 100% wrong. Yes, all armor training programs cover: maintenance, operation, and doctrine/tactics. That does not mean in any meaningful way that a crew trained on Warsaw Pact equipment and doctrine can turn around and use an M1 on the fly.

Trying to service and operate on the field will result in burning M1s and maybe the Russians getting a gnarly war trophy.

 

[CptnSnshn]

Imagine openly supporting America's enemies to "own the libs"

Could never be me.

 

[LeChampion1992]

You see NAFO shills after the facts that they push their brand of propaganda like Z crowd does.

They call anyone that doesn't say Russia stronk zelinsky will be defeated within two weeks is a Nafo Shill.

You couldn't dismiss any of my article then you cry shill. I mentioned Abrams in this thread total 2 times.

Don't mention facts that hurts them

Are you doing okay, buddy?

I think he's coping.

Lastly that 300 dead Ukrainan dead per day is claim made by Z propaganda shills, not by impartial parties or NATO observers.
For the record Shiba Inu is Reddit tier cancer

I haven't rated you once, since I won't lower to level of you lot. Resorting to most petty and gay retorts when you do not have counter argument.

I'm just here to laugh Russian slowly bleed and watch Russia turn into broke police state with help of FSB.

Cry all you want, you know deep inside pyrrhic victory is only possible result.

That's what I've been trying to say. Russia victory in Ukraine might be Phyric. Anyone remembers how the long siege at Mariupol ended up galvanizing support for Ukraine.

Russia failed miserably and Z crowd started moving their goalposts

This, we literally say 2 weeks to defeat Ukraine and force them to Poland's border, then it became two more weeks Kyiv Wil fall, Two weeks to Kharvkiv, then Odessa will be captured, to Kherson won't fall and Lyman is ours. Heck we're still seeing the city of Bakhmut become the Verdun of our generation.

While NAFO crowd started posting fella memes, start donation drives for Ukraine and shitpost about article 5 meme.

Both are propaganda other has wider appeal, it's that simple.

Nafo might be trannies but last I checked the Nafo crowd ends up getting embarrassed when I tell them Azoz is based.

Think for a minute can you convince anyone to side with Z when you're hostile at onset, scream about non whites and faggots.

Acting unhinged, lack of eloquence and calm head do not convince other than 4chan /pol/tards.

Both are cringe other is simply inept in comparison.

But I was told on 4chan that west is fake and gay and Zelinsky is a Jew who we should kill off and Russia is saving the white race by ethnically clensing Slavic Ukrainians and pushing eurasianism as a global policy. Checkmate reddit Z will win stop your coping and grinding down Ukraine to the last man so we can take it over then plan a war on the Baltics.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

meme border Putin drew with a crayon in Ukraine.

Already crossed. From the day one. Putin drawn that "border" even without taking control over it.

Also I'm hearing that only a company's worth of Leopards will be sent (though maybe more, idk if anyone want's to correct me on that), if I'm getting this right that's only around 15 tanks, just like with the Challenger's from earlier, against hundreds of Russian T-72/T-80/T-90's, it's not gonna make a blind fucking difference, and that's not even mentioning the training, maintenance or logistic issues.

Other countries also will sending Leopards. And this is beginingof the arc.

>Poland's absurd whining about WWII reparations from Germany might be to remind everyone Galicia/Lviv used to be theirs

Gosh.

That was part of EU debate about internal finance issues, none was seriously thinking about reparations.

Based, soon there will be no more Russian speakers in the Donbas, only in hell.

"Remember: no ruzzianz" vibe.

Those Leopards are going to be used by Poland to "Stabilize" Western Ukraine....

Another that overdosed cope from ruzzia.

NATO is an absolute fucking joke, they have a war on their doorstep and instead of taking decisive action, they play virtue signal chicken with each other and throw the hot potato when it comes to actual action.

I also support idea of direct NATO intervention in ruzzia and just burning Moscow to the ground.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Spoiler: w*man moment 2023

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Can I ask for a translation and what the fuck happened? I'm so confused because it looks like she own goaled herself and ran off (or ran away after someone got yeeted)?

No insights can be gained as to how the USA would perform against a peer or near peer.

Any fight between a peer or near peer adversary, barring strategic suprise becomes a question of who has a bigger (minor) edge in a combination production, manpower and leadership with a factor of luck.

Edit: Apparently even with a total nuclear exchange of 4400 Warheads, resulting in 150 atmospheric (tg) soot almost Kiwi's would likely survive 2 years post conflict. Almost everyone else are dead except some ozzies and some people in Latin America.

That assumes that the other nuclear powers won't start slugging it out, or one side really doesn't think China/India/Pakistan is neutral and hits them preemptively like Israel likes to do. I'd say in a total nuclear exchange scenario and the followering nuclear winter you'd loose 75%+ of the population and the majority of the lifeforms on the planet.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Uh. No. The Abrams and the Bradley function like any vehicle of their type. An experienced crew can figure out how to use them in a day. In a week they can have mastery. This issue is as I have said maintenance.

This^ deferred maintenance is the big issue with all equipment. Most of the captured Russian equipment is still having deferred maintenance being done.

The US has way more resources then Russia.

Yeah the US has twice the population, and despite being half the size of Russia has roughly 5 times the economic value per square mile then Russia does.

The Ukraine War has done more damage to America's historic strategic rival in a single year then decades of cold war shenanigans.

Lastly this ^ Russia doesn't have many European friends left after the war. Erdogan can play both sides, orban is more concerned with staying leader of hungry then getting involved, and Sweden and Norway will be fast tracked to joining NATO. Regardless of what culture war shenanigans occur.

These aren't SUVs. This is the most POG statement ever, and I have had to listen to a lot of POGs. You should ask an American in a tank battalion of an armored division how long it takes to properly crew those, not Z-man's rent boy.

A proper crew can take weeks of training assuming they don't know how to drive or operate any sort of armored vehicle. But if we're taking about retraining crews that use BMPs and BTRs having them retrained on how to operate a Brady is a few weeks top to teach them the ins and puts of the APCs and armored personal carriers.

fify

I see. Tell me, what happened to our domestic petroleum industry? That gas at the WaWa has to come from somewhere, and most of it isn't domestic anymore.

The US is still one of the largest domestic natural gas producers, coal and energy extraction are going to see major investments in the next decade.

Children, this is the American liberal on copium. Just say no.

Russia is basically sanctioned, any Russian goods that are on ships won't be insured. Ie which means those big crude oil tankers coming from Rostov on dons ports won't be allowed into most ports because they don't have insurance. That means of a Chinese oil tanker is carrying Russian crude they can't check into a major port like hamburg or even Istanbul

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Sanctions do to have effects and it turns out when you take offline one of the world's largest exporters of cheap resources and wheat it causes problems for both sides.

Do you remember which country has closed its borders to all men of fighting age, again? It's the same country that conscripts people at literal gunpoint.

This is why Ukraine isn't really hurting for man power it has nearly all of it's manpower enlisted in reserves right now. Unless you believe the propaganda from Russian TV which says NATO mercs are being overwhelmed by the awesomeness of the T-90M tank which despite a plethora of pictures, hasn't been defeated so checkmate NATO.

The common man is not relevant at a geopolitical stage. The common man does not represent the US. Common man in the US is a 60% white polarized mutt with an IQ in rapid collapse and dependent on multiple psychotropic drugs while eating shit food and having 30BMI. Sorry to say but this average person, often seen riding some fatmobile in a store or MAGA rally, is a lost cause.
Now for what actually matters, Geopolitics and POWER.
From an idealistic perspective that should work for shitlib biomass, the US is fighting against an authoritarian Russian regime that's dangerous to democracies nearby.
From a neocon/neolib perspective, the US is weaking one of its two main competitors at the tiny cost of like 7% of the military budget or something. It's also a good opportunity to revive NATO and increase the cohesion of the US-Europe alliance, while distancing it from Russia.
From an economic perspective, the US will rebuild Ukraine and put all its corporations in it and open up another US-aligned market in the area.
From a military perspective, the US gets to test its weapons against the Russian forces, which is extremely useful. It also gets to observe the Russian military and Wagner, hence the AWACS in the area monitoring 24/7.
Again, still curious what mask you thought I was metaphorically wearing?

The war if anything has shown me that US equipment even the worst off tech has a better survivability rate our in Ukraine.
Russia has millions of men but is an empire that has to deal with internal issues as well.
People we're whining the west is in collapse because George Floyd riots and the DNC allowed commies to be off their leash for a few months. Of course there is more evidence to suggest that foreign countries probably had a hand in this.
Russia meanwhile has flashpoints in nogorono karabakh, Kyrgyzstan/Uzbekistan border flare up, issues with islamists and far right terror groups within Russia not to mention sympathetic terror cells being sided by Ukraine. Even if Russia somehow makes 2023 the year they defeat Ukraine totally (which I doubt ATM) this won't make any of it's internal problems better. If anything this could lead to a multi decade conflict within the Russian federation.

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Перемога и зрада, like clockwork

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"are not likely to arrive for many months, if not years"

Well duh the Abrams and Leopard tanks are replenishing the stockpiles in eastern Europe. They're the first countries who are sending their old Soviet stock along with specialized US gear into Ukraine. Vizegrad nations will leave this war with Top tier NATO armies instead.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

cope

Bruh.

You had no idea what holhol or NAFO meant yet posted a hilarious post pontificating anyone using holhol meant they were genociding the Ukrainian ethnicity. Forgive me but I can't take you seriously on this subject.

Also you and holhol fan club here were crowing how the new Wunderwaffe the Abrams was going to be a game changer. Maybe in 2026. In Taiwan.

 

[Pаzuzu]

wow, there is no end to germany's cuckoldry
now usa gonna swoop in to replace everyone's leopards with abrams tanks, basically kicking germany out of the weapon market

 

[Meh123]

I remember when this was considered by US to be unacceptable escalation.

I imho they feel they're running out of ukrainians to sacrifice. No amount of crappy hand-me-down weaponry will help "bleeding ruZZia" if there are no one left to use them.
It's probably a last opportunity to shed some ruZZian blood, displace old equipment so they'll have a valid reason to request new shiny toys and disarm EU in the mean time, so they'll be even more dependent on the US for protection.

 

[Glowie]

Bruh.

You had no idea what holhol or NAFO meant yet posted a hilarious post pontificating anyone using holhol meant they were genociding the Ukrainian ethnicity. Forgive me but I can't take you seriously on this subject.

Also you and holhol fan club here were crowing how the new Wunderwaffe the Abrams was going to be a game changer. Maybe in 2026. In Taiwan.

Aren't you the one screaming about roping the traitor, gassing and bombing holhols?

Quite ironic that you cheerlead massacre of ethnic population and as a 56% you larp as a Russian and lose your shit every time battlefield turns against Russians who are at the point of going for WW 2 era guns now that sanctions shut down russian military industry and made replacing newer generation tanks, air planes and bombers impossible.

You do know that as a American you are a second class citizen to racial purist Z hardliners, right? Поддельный русский

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Aren't you the one screaming about roping the traitor, gassing and bombing holhols?

Quite ironic that you cheerlead massacre of ethnic population and as a 56% you larp as a Russian and lose your shit every time battlefield turns against Russians who are at the point of going for WW 2 era guns now that sanctions shut down russian military industry and made replacing newer generation tanks, air planes and bombers impossible.

You do know that as a American you are a second class citizen to racial purist Z hardliners, right? Поддельный русский

Are you saying all holhols are Ukronazis and Banderistas? Careful now, cool it with the antisemitism.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Aren't you the one screaming about roping the traitor, gassing and bombing holhols?

Quite ironic that you cheerlead massacre of ethnic population and as a 56% you larp as a Russian and lose your shit every time battlefield turns against Russians who are at the point of going for WW 2 era guns now that sanctions shut down russian military industry and made replacing newer generation tanks, air planes and bombers impossible.

You do know that as a American you are a second class citizen to racial purist Z hardliners, right? Поддельный русский

Can you please tell us more about the UN naval bases in the Sea of Azov?

 

[TrulyMan]

That assumes that the other nuclear powers won't start slugging it out, or one side really doesn't think China/India/Pakistan is neutral and hits them preemptively like Israel likes to do. I'd say in a total nuclear exchange scenario and the followering nuclear winter you'd loose 75%+ of the population and the majority of the lifeforms on the planet.

If everyone gets their nukes up and uses almost all of them (somehow, though that's unlikely because nukes are mainly for destroying other nukes) then its over. Not 75%+ . 75%+ is 4400 nukes.
13000 nukes is GG. Its 99% . Nobody survives unless they are in a underground base that is self sustainable and those there are very few of.

 

[Meh123]

Da. Military vehicles have been retard proofed for the most part in the 70's. Got the steering wheel and standard break and gas pedal. The only thing that's a retard filter is not knowing which buttons on the circuit breaker provide electrical power to start the thing in the first place if the labels are worn.

Thinking going through the most basic tutorial will make you a competent crew

 

[CarlosDanger]

So how long until Joe Dementia Biden decides to send our troops to Ukraine because the Ukrainians don't have the training to use our equipment?

He will send "advisors" like JFK did in 1961 in Vietnam. Also there isn't enough woodchippers for whatever the fuck that NAFO shit was a few pages back. As for the war itself, I'm sick of my money being sent to Ukraine just to prolong a war they cannot win, and sending thousands of Ukrainians into early graves or being maimed, for a war that never should have happened and only happened to do NATO's bidding.

Ukraine just 5 years ago was written off as a corrupt, shithole country that was full of Nazi's, now I'm being told they are the gold standard of Democracy and are fighting to preserve said Democracy. Every single person I hate both on a national level and a world level supports Ukraine, and I don't want to be on any side of those NAFO faggots and trannies. I would rather take the billions being pissed away in Ukraine, and actually spend it on OUR people to fix OUR problems. I guess that is too much to ask for.