Are Asians actually intelligent - Minus 500 social credit

[wtfNeedSignUp]

We all know the memes about Black people and IQ, but are the same racial issues of intelligence apply to Asians (though to a lesser extent)?

Let's start that all Asians countries are shit: South Vietnam is ruled by feminist cults, Japan is run by moonie cult and is a three decades of recession, China is China, and other countries is some flavour of second/third world country.

The few good things Asian countries do are usually just tuning and improvements of White inventions and concepts, almost always when you'd hear on some Asian scientist making actual breakthroughs is when they are doing some Doctor Mengale shit.

I hear a lot of Asians abilities in the states but I also hear about them spending a ton of time studying at home and the question is if it's them actually understanding the material or just doing repetitions to ace the exams.

Finally, while I don't live in the states my experience while doing my second degree in STEM is that every paper with only Asian names is shit, and only if you have a White professor in charge it's actually worth a read.

So is there an Asian IQ pill. Also I don't lump in Indians due to them being infamously bad.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

while doing my second degree in STEM is that every paper with only Asian names is shit

I'm just going to quote myself here, since I've theorized on it before and kind of wrote out the theory already.

Alternatively:
Usually when people say Asians, they only mean Chinese people. Chinks are the whites of Asians. IIRC the leader of the "kimonos are cultural appropriation, WHITE PEOPLE STAHP WEARING KIMONO" was actually just a butthurt chink stealing Japanese people's voices to destroy Japanese culture because she was butthurt whites didn't want to wear hanfu.

It might be more accurate to say Chinks are "good" at math. But also they're the ones who say that without cheating there is no fairness, and math is like the easiest class to cheat at. (Sure, math can get complex, but it's an objective subject that even computers can do. Poetry may be a bs unit, but they can't competently cheat at that without risking someone noticing they're all submitting the same poem).

How good at math are they, really?

We have memes about how Asians dominate certain departments at schools. Usually this is brought up in relation to feminists bitching about equity - of course results aren't equitable if people have different talents or otherwise choose to take different paths in life.

But also there may be alternative reasons that they're so numerous in certain departments. And those reasons have consequences...

Edit: this might also be relevant. It doesn't specify Asian/Chinese, but for people who don't speak English as their native language in general...

I will note that the question may have been asked more than once, the question I was trying to find was just trying to use spellcheck and grammarly to justify it, while the responses warned against actually using the AI to add/change meaning.

But, the current top response also says that all those walls of text in the OP were added and significantly altered the meaning of the original question. There is a real chance this is the question I was looking for, and they added/changed the meaning of the OP, exactly in the manner that they were told to not use AI to do. Thereby proving that they should not use AI to write their papers, no matter how much they argue "Its just spellcheck!"

 

[Chilson]

Asians are good at repetitive tasks, but are pretty terrible innovators. The US is the capitol of innovation because the idea of individuality and self motivation are so highly prized.

It's why Asians have to steal and produce a huge amont of poorly made clones of the original products to compete.

As for why thier countries are so shitty, IQ has very little to do with it. The cultural norms and ingrained acceptance of poor leadership have more to do with that.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Asians are good at repetitive tasks, but are pretty terrible innovators. The US is the capitol of innovation because the idea of individuality and self motivation are so highly prized.

It's why Asians have to steal and produce a huge amont of poorly made clones of the original products to compete.

As for why thier countries are so shitty, IQ has very little to do with it. The cultural norms and ingrained acceptance of poor leadership have more to do with that.

That's always been my impression.

They very much so tend to be bugmen. They can operate collectively in groups and are good at doing things they're instructed to do, but they lack creative intelligence and, to put it in more etherial terms, they lack a soul.

They lack creativity, they suck at music and have a terrible sense of rhythm/pitch, they lack empathy, have a frankly disturbingly detached relationship with animals with no appreciation whatsoever for the natural world, they have very little sense of genuine honor/principle with their main concern being appearances...

It seems like Japanese and South Koreans aren't nearly as bad.
On the other hand when it comes to other Asian ethnicities, I tend to be kind of racist.

 

[Secret Messenger]

The browner they are the dumber their intelligence.

 

[Johnny Salami]

Didn't uncle Adolf consider the Japs honorary Aryans?

 

[NerdShamer]

Didn't uncle Adolf consider the Japs honorary Aryans?

I thought that was done out of pragmatism, considering how Imperial Japan actually went through an open civil war as soon as the Emperor announced that the country should "stop fighting."

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

IDK.
Honestly, there was an Asian classmate of mine that changed her name and I think I had better grades

I know that apparently Akira Toriyama's memory is bad and I think Togashi's dumb and up his own was.

And I don't really recall anything about vegetarian diets benefiting Asian brain. I know that drawing and doodling aids in memory.

India: Mom had an Indian boss that would freeze up over complicated dental procedures. Mom speculated that she got her diploma from those diploma mills in India. Nice lady though.

 

[NotFatChild]

You can make an interesting case that conformity has been bred into them due to things like centuries of using government testing rewarding power/high paying jobs in china just like how criminality was bred out of brits by centuries of executing people over next to nothing.

I suppose you could test it by looking like something like patents in the US... if you had a way to actually sort them by US citizens, and then again by race.

Not sure how you'd get a control group going to test for creativity if you're going to sit there and claim it's due to culture and not genetics, but I'm sure there's a way.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

As for why thier countries are so shitty, IQ has very little to do with it. The cultural norms and ingrained acceptance of poor leadership have more to do with that.

My opinion is that when cultural norms don't change after millenias then something is wrong with the population on a basic level, and being autistically subservient to a leader and refusing to innovate is just slightly better than being in a constant state of tribal society and refusing to innovate.

 

[ArnoldPalmer]

They're intelligent, yes. What they certainly ARE NOT, is creative. Rice calculator isn't just a meme, it's a lifestyle.

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

My opinion is that when cultural norms don't change after millenias then something is wrong with the population on a basic level, and being autistically subservient to a leader and refusing to innovate is just slightly better than being in a constant state of tribal society and refusing to innovate.

Didn't the Japanese straight up take that from Confucianism? I think it's called Paternalism and it's rigid; like you MUST respect the elders even if they're abusive if you're a high schooler

 

[Fomo Hoire]

My opinion is that when cultural norms don't change after millenias then something is wrong with the population on a basic level, and being autistically subservient to a leader and refusing to innovate is just slightly better than being in a constant state of tribal society and refusing to innovate.

Emphasis mine.

Sounds like the opposite problem than the West has. Progressives demand things change without consideration for whether said progress is towards something better or worse.

Are troons the cost of innovation?

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Didn't uncle Adolf consider the Japs honorary Aryans?

Both Chinese and Japanese. In hindsight it would have been a better idea to stick with supporting China vs. switching sides to favor Japan.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Asians are good at repetitive tasks, but are pretty terrible innovators. The US is the capitol of innovation because the idea of individuality and self motivation are so highly prized.

It's why Asians have to steal and produce a huge amont of poorly made clones of the original products to compete.

As for why thier countries are so shitty, IQ has very little to do with it. The cultural norms and ingrained acceptance of poor leadership have more to do with that.

I suppose being creative is a requirement for Americans to find ways to believe in half the stupid shit that they do.

 

[Maniacal Foreigner]

I always thought it was just a commonly accepted fact that while South-East Asians are on average quite intelligent, they are by nature far more collectivist and obedient to authority when compared to the more individualistically-minded white Europeans.

 

[Long Tongue Silver]

The browner they are the dumber their intelligence.

Well, that explains the bleaching cremes.

 

[WickyWickyWoW]

Lets compare some inventions and innovations that appeared in asia and europe (or were discovered in asia and proliferated through the rest of Eurasia). Gunpowder/firearms, printed text, advanced sailing ships, and lets compare two great explorers (Zheng He and Christopher Columbus).

Everyone knows that the Chinese discovered gunpowder and invented firearms, and this invention spread across the Muslim world into the European world where they would radically alter those societies. Eventually though innovation into firearms would stagnate in china and later the muslim world where the europeans would continue to improve this technology. It cannot be overstated how much guns changed warfare in europe to the point that its often cited as one of the key factors in ending feudalism and chivalry. An illiterate peasant who spent 4 weeks training with an arquebus could reliably combat a knight in (very expensive) shining armor who spent most of his life training for war. The end result of centuries of invention and refining of firearms meeting centuries of stagnation was the opium wars where the british absolutely stomped the chinese who were stuck several eras in the past, which subsequently led to the century of humiliation.

I personally consider the Gutenberg printing press to be one of the most if not the most important inventions of the pre industrial era. Before the act of writing a book was a laborious process that required an obscene amount of time just to copy a single book. With the printing press you could copy an immense amount of books and literature with only a fraction of the time. The printing press had world changing effects in europe almost immediately after its creation, namely the protestant reformation where as before due to the limited supply of bibles only the church and high nobility could afford their own copy leaving interpretation up to the catholic church, with ample quantities of bibles the masses could afford their own copy, by being able to interpret it themselves it resulted in the protestant reformation. In the centuries after literacy rates would explode in europe which would later result in the enlightenment and all other societal changes after that, had Gutenberg not created the printing press I shudder at the thought of what the world would look like.

The chinese however had their own form of printing centuries before Gutenberg was even born. A type of wood block printing, albeit more primitive than a proper printing press it was a step in the right direction where would one would assume it would result in innovation and development until eventually the chinese would have had their own printing press. This however was not the case, from what I could gather this printing method was used in china until it was superseded by european imported printing presses.

Zheng He, one of the greatest explorers to ever existed. His travelogue reads like an ancient epic where his expeditions brought riches and wealth to china. What happened in the years after his return to china? Much of their fleet was burned and the rest was permanently moored in harbor until it rotted away, china would stay isolated until being forcibly opened up by European empires in the century of humiliation.

Christopher Columbus, A bungling retard who miscalculated the size of the earth thinking it was smaller than it actually was, contracted by the spanish crown to find india had managed to luck out and discover the americas. It should be noted his crew nearly mutinied and on the last day before turning around they found evidence they were close to land (seaweed, sea birds). This dolt unintentionally set off the age of exploration which resulted in world spanning european empires. The age of discovery, age of sail, age of the white oppressor, whatever you want to call it can be traced backed to some guido who was bad at math.

Something to be noted about sailing ships around the time zheng he and Columbus. The chinese had the most advanced ships in the world at the time while the europeans had only relatively recently at that point created the caravel, which before that were crude looking sailing ships that resembled galleys more than anything else.

The chinese managed to create the basis for world altering technologies and yet did absolutely nothing with them, the europeans bungling around had changed their societies dramatically with the application of these new technologies and would later conquer most of the world.

 

[A-Stump]

Indians have a lot of textbook learning because it's just about repetition but anything requiring critical thought is lost on them. They are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to actual applied intelligence. Ever seen what happens when they get a decent amount of money? They're the very definition of noveau rich.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Lets compare some inventions and innovations that appeared in asia and europe (or were discovered in asia and proliferated through the rest of Eurasia). Gunpowder/firearms, printed text, advanced sailing ships, and lets compare two great explorers (Zheng He and Christopher Columbus).

Everyone knows that the Chinese discovered gunpowder and invented firearms, and this invention spread across the Muslim world into the European world where they would radically alter those societies. Eventually though innovation into firearms would stagnate in china and later the muslim world where the europeans would continue to improve this technology. It cannot be overstated how much guns changed warfare in europe to the point that its often cited as one of the key factors in ending feudalism and chivalry. An illiterate peasant who spent 4 weeks training with an arquebus could reliably combat a knight in (very expensive) shining armor who spent most of his life training for war. The end result of centuries of invention and refining of firearms meeting centuries of stagnation was the opium wars where the british absolutely stomped the chinese who were stuck several eras in the past, which subsequently led to the century of humiliation.

I personally consider the Gutenberg printing press to be one of the most if not the most important inventions of the pre industrial era. Before the act of writing a book was a laborious process that required an obscene amount of time just to copy a single book. With the printing press you could copy an immense amount of books and literature with only a fraction of the time. The printing press had world changing effects in europe almost immediately after its creation, namely the protestant reformation where as before due to the limited supply of bibles only the church and high nobility could afford their own copy leaving interpretation up to the catholic church, with ample quantities of bibles the masses could afford their own copy, by being able to interpret it themselves it resulted in the protestant reformation. In the centuries after literacy rates would explode in europe which would later result in the enlightenment and all other societal changes after that, had Gutenberg not created the printing press I shudder at the thought of what the world would look like.

The chinese however had their own form of printing centuries before Gutenberg was even born. A type of wood block printing, albeit more primitive than a proper printing press it was a step in the right direction where would one would assume it would result in innovation and development until eventually the chinese would have had their own printing press. This however was not the case, from what I could gather this printing method was used in china until it was superseded by european imported printing presses.

Zheng He, one of the greatest explorers to ever existed. His travelogue reads like an ancient epic where his expeditions brought riches and wealth to china. What happened in the years after his return to china? Much of their fleet was burned and the rest was permanently moored in harbor until it rotted away, china would stay isolated until being forcibly opened up by European empires in the century of humiliation.

Christopher Columbus, A bungling retard who miscalculated the size of the earth thinking it was smaller than it actually was, contracted by the spanish crown to find india had managed to luck out and discover the americas. It should be noted his crew nearly mutinied and on the last day before turning around they found evidence they were close to land (seaweed, sea birds). This dolt unintentionally set off the age of exploration which resulted in world spanning european empires. The age of discovery, age of sail, age of the white oppressor, whatever you want to call it can be traced backed to some guido who was bad at math.

Something to be noted about sailing ships around the time zheng he and Columbus. The chinese had the most advanced ships in the world at the time while the europeans had only relatively recently at that point created the caravel, which before that were crude looking sailing ships that resembled galleys more than anything else.

The chinese managed to create the basis for world altering technologies and yet did absolutely nothing with them, the europeans bungling around had changed their societies dramatically with the application of these new technologies and would later conquer most of the world.

The Chinese created an huge writing system but didn't create an alphabet, instead opting for the a brute-force and memorization-based approach to written language. The Japanese and Koreans both have alphabets, but they still choose to use kanji and hanja because they're retarded. That should tell you everything you need to know about Asian cultures.