Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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You all making one bad bet: you are preasuming that Putin isn't a fucking retarded and delusional idiot. Normal leader should make mobilization, point some possible aims and send proper forces on frontline. Also give the command to a competent officers.

Normal leader. But that is Putin, so:

- they send to small forces in strategic terms (first wave was smaller in numbers than Ukrainian forces);
- regardless they wrongly draw attack routes so they - still having to small forces in strategic terms - chocked up every single route on northern front towards Kiev, so some of they units just stopped due to lack of supplies;
- also ruzzkie just fucked up espionage and counterespionage so they entering forces was beliving that they will be no opposing forces and the population will be at least not hostile towards them.

All possible mistakes than can be done in warfare was conducted by ruzzkieland. All fuckin one. It even looks like they have a list "what can cripple a offensive" and do every single thing from it.

Competent forces was only send from Crimea to north direction, but after that they fucked up sending supplies (what idiot makes sole supply line on long single bridge with small capacity?).

And nearly always when situation was going bad for ruzzkie they was making it worse and worse. VDV is going to be massacred on Hostomel airfield? HURRY UP FROM CHERNOBYL. Attack from Chernobyl is going wrong? HEY FORCES FROM CHERNIGOV, JUST INGORE THAT MECHANIZED UKRAINIAN BRIGADE AND GO AHEAD TO KIEV, HURRY. They are to few secured roads to resupply forces from Chernigov? HEY SEND MORE TRUCKS, TRUCKS, TRUUUUUCKS, FUCK THE CAPACITY, JUST SEND THEM! And so one and so far.

They even fucked up political situation around Crimea. If they didn't annex Crimea and start idiotic war in Donbas in 2014...

Well, Donbas war was great training opportunity for AFU and a very clear signal that ruzzia is hostile towards Ukraine, also it allowed Ukrainians to make political cleansing in they politic elites (not mention that Donbas was the most reactionary and eurosceptic part of Ukraine before 2014 - but when Donbas cannot vote the euroenthusiastic forces have easier option tomake a anti-ruzzkie shift).

Annexation of Crimea just made whole affair impossible to give any gains to ruzzkieland. If they didn't annex them but instead install a loyal rulers in separatis "Republic of Crimea" that was a small chance that even EU give pressure on Kiev to recognize new state (like pressure on Serbia in Kosovo case). Or to have only small, short term sanctions (no one every give a fuck about Transnistria, Osetia or Abkhazia). But no, monke wanna banana so they just ignored two possible low-cost options in 2014 (or to just support proruzzkie political forces in Ukraine, or to support Crimean separatist state), go for high cost way to get nothing in long perspective and finally fucked all of they bussiness in EU.

Now they can celebrate taking one salt mine in Soledar for price of just thousands killed ruzzkies. Side effect is remilitarization of all of east NATO states, anti-ruzzkie sentiments from Ukraine to Germany and confiscate of more than 300B USD worth assets in Europe (ant this is only worth of assets taken from legal persons - many countries also stripped off some ruzzkie bussinessmans from their private assets, from stocks to yachts).
How long has Putin been leader of Russia again?.... Stop projecting your own stupidity on others.
lmfao what? did somebody not tell dungus here kherson fell? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Kherson fell, from that awesome UKR offensive? The one where they rolled into an abandoned city? There was no fight, UKR didn't win. After months of multiple failed attempts to take the city the Ukranians literally had to wait for them to leave..... Nice hard fought victory there.....
So when?

@Feline Supremacist was talking about taking it last saturday. Now there are five days, around 1/4 of that was required in 2003 to capture Baghdad in Iraqi Freedom. Not from the start of siege, but from the start of war.
When? I'm not sure. There are some others here you can ask although their predictions about "another" Russian mobilisation and closing the borders has been........ A little off.....
SOOOO a thing that was underway before the war in Ukraine is becaus of the war in Ukraine??? That makes no sense and you are using Brietbart instead of a primary source.
The conscription increase is becaus of the war in Ukraine and becaus the west is the only civilized place on this Earth. We most be stronger, we already made the mistake of opening borders to you subhuman filth.


Good.
I believe escalation and the destruction of Russia would be a net benefit to the world. Fucking Asiatic barbarians don't have the balls to fight NATO.
Nuclear war is a small price to pay for the Russian people being wiped out.
Err... No. You have no idea what a full scale nuclear will do. You see some shit in the media about "Tactical nukes" and think its ok..... There is no such thing theres just nukes and after some idiot launches the first one it scales to obliteration. If you don't get annihilated in the firestorm, you'll get irradiated so that you glow even in direct sunlight or you can hide underground you have to get deep enough to avoid the fall out and radiation by which time you can enjoy suffocation....
my outcomes are:

1. cold war 2.0: russia seizes all of wht they call novorossiya, continuing the tried and true cold war tradition of splitting nations from east/west or north/south. from russian pov they liberate and protect the ethnic russians from the nazis in kiev and the whole thing takes on a kind of neo crusader energy. this satisfies russias honor and internal stability. any illusions tht the cold war is over end. russia becomes more insular and militarized. they even embrace this and await some kind of final showdown, holy russia vs the degenerate and conspiring forces of the evil west. the iron curtain is back and more irony than ever.

2. 1941: russia goes full 1941 and resolves to deny NATO its ukranian frontier. russia mass mobilizes and decides to grind ukranian resistance to the bone and then some. its western allies dont have the stomach to continue and ukraine of es kicking and screaming back into the russian fold. but at what cost? idk if russia still has its soviet iron fist level control to pull this off. but history shows tht russians can dig deep to achieve their ends. theyre just built different.

3.) total nato victory: crimea returning to ukraine isnt even a requirment for this. if russia somehow loses full control of its newly integrating oblasts then all bets are off. tht level of humiliation would mean the putin regime is finished. there would be some kind of big shakeup in russia, idk wht it would look like, but it would go beyond putins departure. it would b open season on russias allies. csto would diminish or maybe even disappear. ukraine becomes a military state to be used by nato for its own ends. russias power would diminish and it might b in store for more 1991 shenanigans.

i think 1. is the most likely outcome or some version of it. it neither overestimates or underestimates either side. sets realistic goals. and is the quickest way to the end bloodshed and stabilize both nations.
How is NATO going to win a war they're not officially a part of and if they want to will have to declare war, and that drags in a whole bunch of shit you haven't even considered.

You really should keep your fantasy fiction for a different thread....
 
You massive gaping faggot the screenshots of Oryx's twitter feed with the reposts are literally in this thread. Here they are again because you are a lazy subhuman retard. On the top left of both image is "Oryx retweeted". They are currently ON HIS FUCKING TWITTER which you are simply too much of a subhuman to go see for yourself so you demand to have spoon-fed with the smug superiority only a total retard could muster. You cannot link to shit someone else retweeted outside twitter as the link will just direct you to the tweet that was retweeted and not the retweet of it on the other person's feed you technologically illiterate boomer.

Are you expecting Oryx to take pictures himself?
 
Does anyone here have concrete information on Russian production capabilities? Form what i've read, most if the production is in restoring older tanks. Is there any production numbers or official statements about war economy?
 
Does anyone here have concrete information on Russian production capabilities? Form what i've read, most if the production is in restoring older tanks. Is there any production numbers or official statements about war economy?
as long as they're content fielding old tanks (with some upgrades) they don't really need to make new tanks from scratch. they can simply pull rusty old T72 tanks out of storage, modernize them a bit, and send them to the front, and their storage is so huge that they can use this as a near infinite source of vehicles for a very long time.

when the choice is making 100 modernized T72s a month or making 5 brand new armatas a month, and the generals have requested 500 tanks ASAP, it's an easy decision to make.
 
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More kino. Ukrainian S-300 gets detected by a Kaskad drone, and is destroyed by something like a Smerch or a Tornado-S MLRS.
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It was probably aimed at Poland (again) so it's a good thing.


blame Jews for your poornes.
Why yes, I do blame the Jews for my porn(s). Glad you agree. I also honestly can't believe you tried to correct someone's Russian and you don't even know кошка и кот. Please try learning English first.


Imagine the lefty seethe when they find out that their beloved Brazil (the country that just voted out their own hitlertrump) told Germany to fuck off regarding ammo for Ukraine. Really seems like that "scouring South America for equipment for Ukraine" plan the Biden administration talked about is going well for their allies.
 
Russia does not have the tooling, expertise, or manpower to repair 100 delapidated tanks a month.
bro they are still operating the same factory complex at uralvagonzavod that has designed and produced tanks for them since the 1930s. these guys literally built those tanks themselves, repairing and modernizing them now is childs play for them.
 
Piggus have no history or culture separate from Russia so they resort to making it up. Pathetic.

Edit: Even more pathetic that other than a few Ukrainians loyal to the USSR, Ukraine was a state created and administered by the Third Reich, eg Nazis (until it was returned to the USSR after the war ) and Ukrainian concentration camp guards have been continuously prosecuted and convicted for war crimes to the present day, lol
K, Finland, Estonia, Lativa, Kazahkstan, and Belrus have the same amount of history as Ukraine, does that mean that they should be annexed, culturally dismantled and forced into serfdom under the monke emperor?

Also Ukraine (as a nation state) was made by the Empire of Germany, as a nation under the treaty of Brest-Litovsk. How the fuck could you not know that, its literally the thing that would establish all these modern borders because of how the soviets would administer its annexed territory.
 
bro they are still operating the same factory complex at uralvagonzavod that has designed and produced tanks for them since the 1930s. these guys literally built those tanks themselves, repairing and modernizing them now is childs play for them.

Russia was producing or refurbing more tanks than the entirety of NATO was every year *before* the war.
 
as long as they're content fielding old tanks (with some upgrades) they don't really need to make new tanks from scratch. they can simply pull rusty old T72 tanks out of storage, modernize them a bit, and send them to the front, and their storage is so huge that they can use this as a near infinite source of vehicles for a very long time.

when the choice is making 100 modernized T72s a month or making 5 brand new armatas a month, and the generals have requested 500 tanks ASAP, it's an easy decision to make.

Well, how modernized? They probably had a stock of western equipment, but this is limited no? And as most Russian equipment uses western or western-sourced equipment for modernization, it doesnt seem like they could keep that up

China could probably supply some equipment, question is if they are up to par?

Also, i disagree with the " huge storage ". Alot of their storage is just rotten tanks, probably unable to be restored. If they can get modern equipment from other sources then i'd agree with your theory on them mostly modernizing old shit.

Tbh, the tactic of using badly equipped prisoners seems to yield more fruit than using tanks lmao. Its quite smart, Russia has a ton of prisoners that would easily trade a 6-month contract for freedom rather than rotting for 30 years in a russian prison. Send in human waves of penal soldiers, identify Ukrainian positions, pummel them and then send in more experienced soldiers when the Ukrainians are tired.
 
Ukraine's constitution is quite wholesome, every country should have such a line in it. Hopefully the Westocucks don't bully them to change it.
Tracey is part of the anti-war/tankie pro-Russia half, so he is quite triggered by Nazis, eugenics, ethnonationalism and the sort.
It should be clear that as long as you don't wage war against other ethnic states and everyone understands what borders are for, ethnonationalism is likely the most natural form of organizing.
Kinda pathetic, although I do admit that I kinda like the dude in average.
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Well, how modernized? They probably had a stock of western equipment, but this is limited no? And as most Russian equipment uses western or western-sourced equipment for modernization, it doesnt seem like they could keep that up
maybe they need western equipment for state of the art high tech next gen stuff, to make tanks with 2022 tier aiming systems.
but if that's not available, they can always simply use their own stuff instead. won't be quite as advanced, optics a little bit less accurate maybe. so maybe with that their tanks only have 2002 tier aiming systems. not optimal, but good enough to get the job done, especially when they have numbers advantage in the field.
 
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Imagine the lefty seethe when they find out that their beloved Brazil (the country that just voted out their own hitlertrump) told Germany to fuck off regarding ammo for Ukraine.
Thats interesting, because Brazil didn't had single round for Leopard II. They operate on Leopard 1. Different cannon, different (no usable) ammo.

So, wat is the point about that ammo fakenews?

Russia does not have the tooling, expertise, or manpower to repair 100 delapidated tanks a month.
They have nearly nothing to produce. T-14 Armata was scrapped due to not even be ready to production. So they repainted T-72's and called them T-90.

they can simply pull rusty old T72 tanks out of storage, modernize them a bit, and send them to the front, and their storage is so huge that they can use this as a near infinite source of vehicles for a very long time.
You probably thinking about ruzzkie storages as something like mothballed ships of US Navy? Few weeks and it still can at least run?

Think again:

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Moisty. Definetly not Sierra Nevada Deposit. Only not consumed by moisture thing is hull, and not in everyone. And this is reason why Soledar was attacked by zombie-horde ruzzkie rush B, not by mechanized units.

Really seems like that "scouring South America for equipment for Ukraine" plan the Biden administration talked about is going well for their allies.
That was stupid idea - none country in SA have signifant quantity of usable equipment.
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Funny clips time - friendly visit in Kazakhstan: local people block a ruzzkielanders cars and ordered them to remove swastika from car. They was nice because they didn't use force: https://streamable.com/09td47

Rumors which will be confirmed in few hours: more than 300 (three hundred) tanks was declared as donation in this round of international effort to control population of wild ruzzkie. Around 120 west produced and modern/semi modern, around 50-80 former soviet era but upgraded to NATO, rest - mostly shitty T-72.

Please try learning English first.
Ako ne razumiješ engleski, mogu koristiti bosanski.

I pity the janny that has to read through this thread this weekend
Thats why we are deporting ruzzkies from Germoney. No ruzzkie - no problem.
 
You probably thinking about ruzzkie storages as something like mothballed ships of US Navy? Few weeks and it still can at least run?

Think again:

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Moisty. Definetly not Sierra Nevada Deposit. Only not consumed by moisture thing is hull, and not in everyone. And this is reason why Soledar was attacked by zombie-horde ruzzkie rush B, not by mechanized units.
i think bringing a rusty tank like that back into working condition should still be a LOT faster, easier and cheaper than building a new one from scratch
 
lol linked articles from 8 months ago show Ukraine is on the verge of collapse
Funfact: eight months ago ruzzkie was controlling around 30% of Ukraine, now they around 20% (according to world) or 0% (according to ruzzkie) of Ukraine.

TOTAL COLLAPS INCOMING, trust me bro, we are winning bro, we will capture Bakhmut then Odessa then Kiev then Berlin then Copenhaga, just trust me bro.

i think bringing a rusty tank like that back into working condition should still be a LOT faster, easier and cheaper than building a new one from scratch
Not so sure - they have fucked up everything. Engine damaged by moisture, electronics dead (if they ever have some), all mechanical parts probably also unoperatable. That is basicly a rusted hull. Everyone who tried to reanimate car holded in bad conditions know how hard and time consuming this is.
 
bro they are still operating the same factory complex at uralvagonzavod that has designed and produced tanks for them since the 1930s. these guys literally built those tanks themselves, repairing and modernizing them now is childs play for them.

And thanks to embezzlememt and corruption, output is low and of poor quality.
 
i think bringing a rusty tank like that back into working condition should still be a LOT faster, easier and cheaper than building a new one from scratch
LOL, no.

About the only thing salvagable *might* be the hull. Even then, those armor plates lock into parts of the frame, and if those bolts are rusted, then the armor is fucked. Running gear? Fucked. Total replacement. Turret ring seals? Fucked. Total replacement. How much has the rust and decay gotten into the turret sleeve (the part that's under the turret and in the hull) and what's the condition of it? The engine? Fucked. Total replacement. Inside? Double. No, TRIPLE fucked. MAYBE the seats are OK. Electronics? Fucked. Breach? Fucked. Loader? Fucked.

Wanna know the best and fastest way to restore that tank into working condition?

Park a new one in its parking spot.
 
Anyone remember those posts and articles from really early in the way saying that Russia had kidnapped like 50000 children from Ukraine or something like that?
They're still claiming shit like that. After Bucha Russia pretty much learned not to leave pro Russian civilians in areas they're not going to stick around in.
 
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