🇷🇺Fuck Ukraine🇷🇺
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How long has Putin been leader of Russia again?.... Stop projecting your own stupidity on others.You all making one bad bet: you are preasuming that Putin isn't a fucking retarded and delusional idiot. Normal leader should make mobilization, point some possible aims and send proper forces on frontline. Also give the command to a competent officers.
Normal leader. But that is Putin, so:
- they send to small forces in strategic terms (first wave was smaller in numbers than Ukrainian forces);
- regardless they wrongly draw attack routes so they - still having to small forces in strategic terms - chocked up every single route on northern front towards Kiev, so some of they units just stopped due to lack of supplies;
- also ruzzkie just fucked up espionage and counterespionage so they entering forces was beliving that they will be no opposing forces and the population will be at least not hostile towards them.
All possible mistakes than can be done in warfare was conducted by ruzzkieland. All fuckin one. It even looks like they have a list "what can cripple a offensive" and do every single thing from it.
Competent forces was only send from Crimea to north direction, but after that they fucked up sending supplies (what idiot makes sole supply line on long single bridge with small capacity?).
And nearly always when situation was going bad for ruzzkie they was making it worse and worse. VDV is going to be massacred on Hostomel airfield? HURRY UP FROM CHERNOBYL. Attack from Chernobyl is going wrong? HEY FORCES FROM CHERNIGOV, JUST INGORE THAT MECHANIZED UKRAINIAN BRIGADE AND GO AHEAD TO KIEV, HURRY. They are to few secured roads to resupply forces from Chernigov? HEY SEND MORE TRUCKS, TRUCKS, TRUUUUUCKS, FUCK THE CAPACITY, JUST SEND THEM! And so one and so far.
They even fucked up political situation around Crimea. If they didn't annex Crimea and start idiotic war in Donbas in 2014...
Well, Donbas war was great training opportunity for AFU and a very clear signal that ruzzia is hostile towards Ukraine, also it allowed Ukrainians to make political cleansing in they politic elites (not mention that Donbas was the most reactionary and eurosceptic part of Ukraine before 2014 - but when Donbas cannot vote the euroenthusiastic forces have easier option tomake a anti-ruzzkie shift).
Annexation of Crimea just made whole affair impossible to give any gains to ruzzkieland. If they didn't annex them but instead install a loyal rulers in separatis "Republic of Crimea" that was a small chance that even EU give pressure on Kiev to recognize new state (like pressure on Serbia in Kosovo case). Or to have only small, short term sanctions (no one every give a fuck about Transnistria, Osetia or Abkhazia). But no, monke wanna banana so they just ignored two possible low-cost options in 2014 (or to just support proruzzkie political forces in Ukraine, or to support Crimean separatist state), go for high cost way to get nothing in long perspective and finally fucked all of they bussiness in EU.
Now they can celebrate taking one salt mine in Soledar for price of just thousands killed ruzzkies. Side effect is remilitarization of all of east NATO states, anti-ruzzkie sentiments from Ukraine to Germany and confiscate of more than 300B USD worth assets in Europe (ant this is only worth of assets taken from legal persons - many countries also stripped off some ruzzkie bussinessmans from their private assets, from stocks to yachts).
Kherson fell, from that awesome UKR offensive? The one where they rolled into an abandoned city? There was no fight, UKR didn't win. After months of multiple failed attempts to take the city the Ukranians literally had to wait for them to leave..... Nice hard fought victory there.....lmfao what? did somebody not tell dungus here kherson fell?![]()
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When? I'm not sure. There are some others here you can ask although their predictions about "another" Russian mobilisation and closing the borders has been........ A little off.....So when?
@Feline Supremacist was talking about taking it last saturday. Now there are five days, around 1/4 of that was required in 2003 to capture Baghdad in Iraqi Freedom. Not from the start of siege, but from the start of war.
Err... No. You have no idea what a full scale nuclear will do. You see some shit in the media about "Tactical nukes" and think its ok..... There is no such thing theres just nukes and after some idiot launches the first one it scales to obliteration. If you don't get annihilated in the firestorm, you'll get irradiated so that you glow even in direct sunlight or you can hide underground you have to get deep enough to avoid the fall out and radiation by which time you can enjoy suffocation....SOOOO a thing that was underway before the war in Ukraine is becaus of the war in Ukraine??? That makes no sense and you are using Brietbart instead of a primary source.
The conscription increase is becaus of the war in Ukraine and becaus the west is the only civilized place on this Earth. We most be stronger, we already made the mistake of opening borders to you subhuman filth.
Good.
I believe escalation and the destruction of Russia would be a net benefit to the world. Fucking Asiatic barbarians don't have the balls to fight NATO.
Nuclear war is a small price to pay for the Russian people being wiped out.
How is NATO going to win a war they're not officially a part of and if they want to will have to declare war, and that drags in a whole bunch of shit you haven't even considered.my outcomes are:
1. cold war 2.0: russia seizes all of wht they call novorossiya, continuing the tried and true cold war tradition of splitting nations from east/west or north/south. from russian pov they liberate and protect the ethnic russians from the nazis in kiev and the whole thing takes on a kind of neo crusader energy. this satisfies russias honor and internal stability. any illusions tht the cold war is over end. russia becomes more insular and militarized. they even embrace this and await some kind of final showdown, holy russia vs the degenerate and conspiring forces of the evil west. the iron curtain is back and more irony than ever.
2. 1941: russia goes full 1941 and resolves to deny NATO its ukranian frontier. russia mass mobilizes and decides to grind ukranian resistance to the bone and then some. its western allies dont have the stomach to continue and ukraine of es kicking and screaming back into the russian fold. but at what cost? idk if russia still has its soviet iron fist level control to pull this off. but history shows tht russians can dig deep to achieve their ends. theyre just built different.
3.) total nato victory: crimea returning to ukraine isnt even a requirment for this. if russia somehow loses full control of its newly integrating oblasts then all bets are off. tht level of humiliation would mean the putin regime is finished. there would be some kind of big shakeup in russia, idk wht it would look like, but it would go beyond putins departure. it would b open season on russias allies. csto would diminish or maybe even disappear. ukraine becomes a military state to be used by nato for its own ends. russias power would diminish and it might b in store for more 1991 shenanigans.
i think 1. is the most likely outcome or some version of it. it neither overestimates or underestimates either side. sets realistic goals. and is the quickest way to the end bloodshed and stabilize both nations.
You really should keep your fantasy fiction for a different thread....