Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month

[GoysGoneWild]

What sort of day-to-day desktop OS tasks did you find unacceptably difficult in Windows 11 that got smooth & easy when you switched to Linux?

I've never fucked with Windows 11 in an extensive manner, thank god. The few experiences I have had were retarded enough. As others have said, basic shit like fucking with copy/paste, and fucking with startup program settings and notifications all caused issues that weren't there in 10. And 10 was already bad enough. 11 is just another iteration of the overall strategy of making shit unnecessarily hard to manage if you are not one of two groups of people. A) retards B) Organizations with a LARGE support contract.

As for smooth and easy in Linux: when all major DE's implement this functionality easily and cleanly, you have no excuse not to.

oh and also "you need a microsoft account for this basic functionality". Lol fuck off.

In a wider context, the other big issues with Windows in general that Linux solves are managing updates, and fixing broken systems. But I guess that fits outside your weird "day to day" parameter.

I can count on one hand the number of times I've opened Powershell. I've rarely looked up how to do even trivial tasks in Linux (take your pick of distro) that DIDN'T involve terminal commands.

Not that I'm terribly put off by using a command line if it's reasonably straightforward, but to pretend there's an equivalent amount of it in Windows is pure delusion. I mean, you're just writing fanfiction about what you imagine Windows to be like.

We all know about your special snowflake usecase that everyone who doesn't want to switch to Linux just totally coincidentally has. We all know how you hate the Linux userbase so much for whatever retarded reason that you will never switch. I dunno why you hate autists that can solve problems more than the IIT-dropout pajeetfest that is the Windows support base, but hey you do you boo.

But if we were to be retarded and take you at your word; I'd just say, tough shit. Here in the real world where the vast majority of people don't have your special snowflake usecase, managing Windows deployments of anything more than 5 people makes Powershell an absolute necessity, not optional. And if you have your own lone machine, the amount of GUI functionality in Windows has been decreasing for 5-10 years now and is only accelerating. For fixing actual issues faced by corporate clients that they actually give a shit about (read: not you), Microsoft knows Powershell is the only real way.

 

[byuu]

The Linux userbase never exactly built themselves up as a destination for creatives, so I'm sure there's not nearly enough money in it for Adobe to release and support Linux ports of their software.

We need to force Stallman into jeans and a black turtleneck.

They're not wrong. It's true about The Linux People, i.e. most people with Linux desktops at home, but there are plenty of business machines running RHEL or SLES that are loaded up with thousands and thousands of dollars' worth of commercial software. It's just all science & engineering applications; there's no Photoshop market there.

That's true about most desktop users. Photoshop is one of the single most pirated pieces of software in the world without running on Linux.
That's why they made everything subscription based.
And there is a lot of commercial creative software on Linux, like Maya3D, Houdini, DaVinci Resolve, Waveform Pro, etc.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

Win7Chads just stay winning

 

[Matt Damon]

But if we were to be retarded and take you at your word; I'd just say, tough shit. Here in the real world where the vast majority of people don't have your special snowflake usecase, managing Windows deployments of anything more than 5 people makes Powershell an absolute necessity, not optional.

So Windows is just as user-unfriendly because being an IT guy for an entire corporate enterprise deployment requires (allegedly) as much terminal usage as a single, garden-variety consumer installation of any Linux distro?

lol
lmao

 

[Miller]

I'd Use Windows XP if they kept updating it for compatibility and security.

XP with the Zune theme was peak comfy.

 

[George Floyd]

 

[Matt Damon]

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"How dare you want the software that you use to be compatible with your operating system!"

What an unintentionally perfect encapsulation of everything that makes Linuxfags so insufferable.

 

[SilentDuck]

At a certain point just biting the bullet, being a grown up and learning a new thing (Linux) becomes less time-consuming than making Microsofts bullshit workable. But no, can't do that. Can't have personal initiative.

Every major tech company has their own customized linux distribution they use internally. That should be telling people how unsuitable basically any distro is for actual work with deadlines.

Very easy to tell people to hop in and immerse themselves 'for their own good'. One thing I noticed about people who express such sentiments is they disappear when the machine shits the bed and there is a deadline and people can't access their work or lost it.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

So is this also a Linux hate thread? Cool, let me whine about my latest :

Installed Linux Mint, the first one everyone says to install if you like windows.
Installation is pretty straightforward, install the updates and drivers and restart
Currently dealing with +2 minute boot times and it refuses to shut down.
Ask for support and am told to upload logs. I upload the logs.
"Don't do that you'll dox yourself" Fuck me

At this point I don't know what the fuck is up. I know it's a hardware issue since the same thing happened when I tried Zorin. My problem is that despite "Linux lets you fix it yourself" it doesn't do a damn thing to explain what's actually stopping it. At least when windows isn't shutting down it will straight up tell me 'this program is stopping you from shutting down' And the event viewer isn't written in fucking braille.

 

[Matt Damon]

I know it's a hardware issue since the same thing happened when I tried Zorin. My problem is that despite "Linux lets you fix it yourself" it doesn't do a damn thing to explain what's actually stopping it.

Remember, Linux is all about choice and you chose the wrong hardware so it's all your fault.

 

[The Ugly One]

I've never fucked with Windows 11 in an extensive manner, thank god.

So you flailed around with it long enough to give up, but not long enough to figure out how to do basic tasks.

The few experiences I have had were retarded enough. As others have said, basic shit like fucking with copy/paste,

You can't figure out how copy/paste work in Windows?

and fucking with startup program settings and notifications all caused issues that weren't there in 10. And 10 was already bad enough. 11 is just another iteration of the overall strategy of making shit unnecessarily hard to manage if you are not one of two groups of people. A) retards B) Organizations with a LARGE support contract.

What you're describing is Schrodinger's operating system. Simultaneously so easy to use that a 90 IQ simpleton has no problem with it, yet so opaque and complex that even a genius can't figure out System > Notifications.

In a wider context, the other big issues with Windows in general that Linux solves are managing updates, and fixing broken systems.

"Linux" does not have an update model. The update model is part of the distribution. Ubuntu and RHEL are completely different.

But I guess that fits outside your weird "day to day" parameter.

We're talking about home desktop operating systems. This is a weird concept to you? Have you been in a vault since 1983?

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Remember, Linux is all about choice and you chose the wrong hardware so it's all your fault.

People will actually say that since I have an nvidia gpu, because AMD is so perfect and can do no wrong. It's not like their windows drivers are garbage and they're not price gouging these days as well, right?

 

[Matt Damon]

People will actually say that since I have an nvidia gpu, because AMD is so perfect and can do no wrong. It's not like their windows drivers are garbage and they're not price gouging these days as well, right?

Yeah, only an idiot would buy a card from the most ubiquitous brand on the market and expect it to work on Linux.

Oh, you're on a laptop and expect closing the lid (not even putting it into suspension/hibernation, just turning off the display) to not make the entire GUI hang, forcing you to restart? We're driver developers, not miracle workers!

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Yeah, only an idiot would buy a card from the most ubiquitous brand on the market and expect it to work on Linux.

Oh, you're on a laptop and expect closing the lid (not even putting it into suspension/hibernation, just turning off the display) to not make the entire GUI hang, forcing you to restart? We're driver developers, not miracle workers!

I first tried Ubuntu around 2010 and none of my laptop hotkeys worked. When I posted in their forums I shit you not the first response was "it's a free OS you can't expect it to be perfect"

 

[Matt Damon]

When I posted in their forums I shit you not the first response was "it's a free OS you can't expect it to be perfect"

That's the Linux autist way: promise the sun and the moon and then excuse all the serious, often decade-old problems with "well, it's free, you can't expect perfection!!!!!!!"

 

[byuu]

Yeah, only an idiot would buy a card from the most ubiquitous brand on the market and expect it to work on Linux.

Guys, I've bought an iPhone - why doesn't Windows Mobile work on it?

Buying hardware that works with what you want to use seems like common sense to me.

 

[Pimozide]

In general I would suggest directly creating a bootable USB of the distribution you're interested in, if you have a stick lying around. Alternatively you could try setting it up in a Virtual machine.
For example: The Linux mint installation guide should contain most information you need to get it up and running.

Booting into the USB puts you into a live session where you can test out the basic functionality before proceeding with any installation.

For those following this advice: Keep in mind that if you're running Mint off a flash drive it will be noticeably slower than installing the OS and running it off your computer's hard drive/ssd, so if you like what you see other and it's just slow, then go ahead and (BACK UP YOUR FILES) and install that distro. You'll get a large speed increase going from flash drive to proper install.

 

[GoysGoneWild]

Every major tech company has their own customized linux distribution they use internally. That should be telling people how unsuitable basically any distro is for actual work with deadlines.

Very easy to tell people to hop in and immerse themselves 'for their own good'. One thing I noticed about people who express such sentiments is they disappear when the machine shits the bed and there is a deadline and people can't access their work or lost it.

There's some real dumbfuck opinions in this thread but this takes the cake. Every megahuge tech company has their own linux "distro" because it is an open and well defined system. They have the engineers on staff to take linux and modify it to the extreme to fit their own specific use case and squeeze out every last bit of specific performance of it.

Of course a generalized Linux distro meant for public consumption will not have these specific changes. Why the fuck would it?

The more this thread goes on the more I am convinced that the terminal is just a retard filter and that halfway intelligent computer users should thank god that the year of the Linux desktop never actually happened. It would be eternal September x1000. You people deserve your proprietary hellscape.

 

[Matt Damon]

Guys, I've bought an iPhone - why doesn't Windows Mobile work on it?

So Linux is as locked-in to particular hardware as iOS and that's just fine. Wow.

Linux: it's about choice, as long as you choose the right way.

 

[GoysGoneWild]

So you flailed around with it long enough to give up, but not long enough to figure out how to do basic tasks.

What kind of disingenuous shit is this? I deal with Windows for a living. I dealt with it long enough to know that these kind of changes should NOT be pushed out willy nilly onto unsuspecting end users. They know they are retards when it comes to this shit and they shouldn't be punished with this crap. You should be, frankly.

You can't figure out how copy/paste work in Windows?

Are you being purposefully dense? Good job, you phase in and out of retard really well.

What you're describing is Schrodinger's operating system. Simultaneously so easy to use that a 90 IQ simpleton has no problem with it, yet so opaque and complex that even a genius can't figure out System > Notifications.

It's funny, you've actually fucking nailed it. Windows is exactly that. The UI, front end is constantly dumbed down for people like you with third world IQ and initiative, and the internal components are constantly re-worked so that you can't really dig much deeper unless you accept that it starts to follow the Linux model of command line/WSL/oh no not freetards in muh windos system!

"Linux" does not have an update model. The update model is part of the distribution. Ubuntu and RHEL are completely different.

Semantics: the dishonest smarter than you's favorite thing.

We're talking about home desktop operating systems. This is a weird concept to you? Have you been in a vault since 1983?

We're talking about Windows and how it sucks.