Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[YumeNoHero]

In the case of Wagner mercs, “exhausted” means unsustainable casualties. 75% of Wagner’s force is destroyed.

Nigger, it's you who assigned certainty to uncertainty. Back your shit up with proof that it is actual casualties and not retarded word interpretations.

 

[SIMIΔN]

If something gets nuked first, then it will 99% be ukraine, who is not in NATO, and therefore NATO countries have 0 obligation to retaliate with their own nuclear weapons.

- Using nukes would carry severe diplomatic repercussions. Many Russian allies would cut ties if not turn into enemies. Xi already implied that China would not stand by Russia after nuclear weapons are used.

I very much doubt Russia would use nukes against Ukraine, it seems like a war of conquest/liberation. They can still win it conventionally, so why would the spoil the prize.

The most plausible scenario for the use of tactical nukes is if Article 5 is invoked. I see Ramstein getting portable sunshine after the first American airstrike as Russia would not win a committed, conventional war against all NATO signatories. I doubt the NATO headquarters would be an early target as it is in the middle of densely populated Brussels.

 

[Meh123]

What other choice does Putin have? The West will continue to supply Ukraine with tanks, drones, missiles, and artillery faster than Russia and friends can produce them. Nuclear weapons is the only form of military leverage he has left.

UA will run out of manpower to handle said equipment soon enough. They're now resorting to bag anyone off the streets, which indicates.. problems with recruitment.
In the mean time, Russia is just preparing the front to start the real deal with the mobilized 300k ppl + some others, and is in no sign of running out of anything.

So no, Putin has absolutely no reason to resort to nukes, and every reason to not use them.

The thing is that it works. This thread is filled with people who eat it up. They can be lied to a hundred times, they will take the 101st bullshit lie at face value and parade it around, smugly secure in their sense of superiority, and never once thinking critically about what they're saying or why they're saying it. Monkey see, monkey parrot.

Remember that a significant portion of any population is effectively subhuman for statistical reasons.

I wish you could appreciate the irony of your post.

 

[just a banana]

Meanwhile Nato is trying to scrape together weapons wherever they can- after getting nothankyoud by South American countries...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/nato-secretary-general-urges-south-korea-to-allow-direct-arms-exports-to-ukraine/ar-AA16SWSd

 

[Mav52ri]

Lol. So we threaten Germany to send Leopards.. Then we go "Oh, we're totally going to send Abrams brah. So get to sending those Leopards". Then we go "Oh yeah, we'll 'eventually' send those Abrams, get those Leopards out there though".

Truly fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian soul.

And who want's to bet the Germans send their tanks, but the American's keep stalling on their Abrams till the war's over, and then just shrug and don't send them in the end, that would be the ultimate bait on the Germans.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Though long, I highly recommend watching the first portions of this fight:

lmao everyone else also asking "Where are the "Russian spetsnaz"

An alleged Wagner recruiting ad aimed at prior-service Americans.

Looks like a fake and gay video. The requirement for Wagner consideration is Russian citizenship. Wagner keeps repeating they don't take Americans (and why would they; Wagner doesn't need prima donnas used to losing to goatherders in man dresses and sandals).

The first video of Wagner in Blagodatnoe; note the snow on the ground and the lack of foliage which indicates it was shot in winter and thus, very recently.

Yesterday, Blagodatnoe completely came under the control of the “musicians”, and a cleansing operation was completed in the settlement. The goal of the Wagner is understandable, from the Blagodatny they “go down” to Bakhmut in order to split the city’s defenses with pincers from both sides.

"The village has been completely cleared by the Wagner PMC employees, it has been completely cleared. The mood is wild - the fighters are ready to go further to free civilians."

This post didn't age well.

 

[🇷🇺Fuck Ukraine🇷🇺]

And who want's to bet the Germans send their tanks, but the American's keep stalling on their Abrams till the war's over, and then just shrug and don't send them in the end, that would be the ultimate bait on the Germans.

That's the plan from the start, fits their MO honestly. They don't give a shit, and it's not even in the best interests of their country, it's in the interest of companies and politicians looking to make themselves rich.

 

[🇷🇺Fuck Ukraine🇷🇺]

lmao everyone else also asking "Where are the "Russian spetsnaz"
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Looks like a fake and gay video. The requirement for Wagner consideration is Russian citizenship. Wagner keeps repeating they don't take Americans (and why would they; Wagner doesn't need prima donnas used to losing to goatherders in man dresses and sandals).

The first video of Wagner in Blagodatnoe; note the snow on the ground and the lack of foliage which indicates it was shot in winter and thus, very recently.

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Wait a minute.....it shows Wagner Group combatants with full gear, weapons, cold weather gear and even gloves and it even looks like it's been uniformly issued as they are all the same......various sources on here have said they had to provide their own gear, you know like grandad's rusty rifle or their uncles brass knuckles...... @Feline Supremacist , are you trying to deep fake us?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

"Esken does not exclude fighter jets – Scholz warns of „ bidding competition “ for arms deliveries"
"SPD chief Saskia Esken may imagine a delivery of fighter jets in the Ukraine war"
"There was also no clear no to the delivery of submarines"
"The new defense minister too Boris Pistorius, also SPD, put a clear stop to the supply of fighter jets. „ I think that is impossible “"

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/9SC1M?wr=false

Seems like Germany is disagreeing with itself on fighter jets

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

"Esken does not exclude fighter jets – Scholz warns of „ bidding competition “ for arms deliveries"
"SPD chief Saskia Esken may imagine a delivery of fighter jets in the Ukraine war"
"There was also no clear no to the delivery of submarines"
"The new defense minister too Boris Pistorius, also SPD, put a clear stop to the supply of fighter jets. „ I think that is impossible “"

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/9SC1M?wr=false

Seems like Germany is disagreeing with itself on fighter jets

Germany disageed with itself on the tanks as well, right up to the point where it didn't.

 

[Halmaz]

Germs will cuck on fighter jets as well. I don't know why they do this retarded dog and pony show every time. Just fucking do it faggots, or say NO once and stick to it.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Wait a minute.....it shows Wagner Group combatants with full gear, weapons, cold weather gear and even gloves and it even looks like it's been uniformly issued as they are all the same......various sources on here have said they had to provide their own gear, you know like grandad's rusty rifle or their uncles brass knuckles...... @Feline Supremacist , are you trying to deep fake us?

No, why would I knowingly make fake and gay posts?

"Esken does not exclude fighter jets – Scholz warns of „ bidding competition “ for arms deliveries"
"SPD chief Saskia Esken may imagine a delivery of fighter jets in the Ukraine war"
"There was also no clear no to the delivery of submarines"
"The new defense minister too Boris Pistorius, also SPD, put a clear stop to the supply of fighter jets. „ I think that is impossible “"

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/9SC1M?wr=false

Seems like Germany is disagreeing with itself on fighter jets

The issue aren't the F-16s (which Poland says it will also give to Ukraine), it's who will pilot them.

Answer: not Ukrainians.

 

[PrimeRadiant]

What other choice does Putin have? The West will continue to supply Ukraine with tanks, drones, missiles, and artillery faster than Russia and friends can produce them. Nuclear weapons is the only form of military leverage he has left.

The west is running out of weapons. Thats why they are so frantic.

Russian doesnt need nukes. The great leverage Russia can use is mobilisation. Not a partial mobilisation, but a total mobilisation. Russia can also begin to supply its own advanced weapons, esp anti-ship missiles and SAMS to countries like Iran and Syria. If South Korea gets involved, Russia can immediately increase the threat of North by supplying it with the fuel and food it needs.

 

[KonradCruise]

The west is running out of weapons. Thats why they are so frantic.

Russian doesnt need nukes. The great leverage Russia can use is mobilisation. Not a partial mobilisation, but a total mobilisation. Russia can also begin to supply its own advanced weapons, esp anti-ship missiles and SAMS to countries like Iran and Syria. If South Korea gets involved, Russia can immediately increase the threat of North by supplying it with the fuel and food it needs.

This entire post is pure, refined cope.
The entire western bloc will never run out of weaponry faster than Russia nor can Russia even afford to replace some of its more expensive losses in this conflict for years to come.
I swear to god Vatniks think they actually won the "great patriotic war" and not the United states literally carrying the armies of seven nations on its back in sheer production output. Including Russia who would be carting shit by donkey to Stalingrad like the Germans if not for our contributions.
The story remains the same, while we may be transitioning to a service economy we still have some of the largest steel operations, agricultural output. etc. This is not a war of attrition you can win unless you extinguish every less hohol and only abandoned western equipment is left. Jewlensky seems more than willing to oblige that point.
Russia has already provided its "finest" to Iran and Syria. Russia's "Finest" Can't be replaced, can't outpace western production, and even if it can match pieces of the western arsenal they will go from force multiplier to burning wreck in short order.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

This is not a war of attrition you can win unless you extinguish every less hohol and only abandoned western equipment is left.

Your terms are acceptable.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Next we'll tell Germany "Oh yeah, we'll totally send them some Raptors if you send half your airforce guys."

and not the United states literally carrying the armies of seven nations on its back in sheer production output.

While it's true that there's no real way the entire West would run out before Russia, this has zero to do with that topic. The US doesn't care about this match of SlavBall to ramp up production to those levels. Not even close. It's clear we're just dragging this shit along.

we still have some of the largest steel operations,

We might be in the top 5, but it's frankly embarrassing how much we've let steel production slip:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/steel-production-by-country

Japan makes more steel than us. We make less than 10% of the steel China pushes out. Russia comes close to matching us ffs. I'm sorry, but those glory days of WW2 are never, ever coming back. Our political elites sold our country out, hard, which is why I give zero fucks about their little Ukrainian playground. Every time someone simps for the Ukrainian government, they simp for our elites.

 

[Meh123]

The issue aren't the F-16s (which Poland says it will also give to Ukraine), it's who will pilot them.

Answer: not Ukrainians.

Now that's a fine line to tread into war.. If Polack jets attack russian positions can (and why the hell shouldn't) be considered as attack on russia, then article 5 goes out the window, as it'll make Poland the aggressor. I guess that is one of the reasons the Krauts were so hesitant to provide tanks too.

Your terms are acceptable.

I disagree, instead of killing every hohol, maybe it's time to kill z-boi and his cohorts/masters or pressure the USG to actually serve it's people instead of a psychopathic elite club in their ivory tower.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

"“Explosive night in Iran,” Mykhailo Podolyak tweeted. “Did warn you.” "

I hope the Quds Force minecrafts his ministry building.

Smug fucking assholes are chuckling about the expansion of this war into new theatres.

 

[PrimeRadiant]

This entire post is pure, refined cope.
The entire western bloc will never run out of weaponry faster than Russia nor can Russia even afford to replace some of its more expensive losses in this conflict for years to come.
I swear to god Vatniks think they actually won the "great patriotic war" and not the United states literally carrying the armies of seven nations on its back in sheer production output. Including Russia who would be carting shit by donkey to Stalingrad like the Germans if not for our contributions.
The story remains the same, while we may be transitioning to a service economy we still have some of the largest steel operations, agricultural output. etc. This is not a war of attrition you can win unless you extinguish every less hohol and only abandoned western equipment is left. Jewlensky seems more than willing to oblige that point.
Russia has already provided its "finest" to Iran and Syria. Russia's "Finest" Can't be replaced, can't outpace western production, and even if it can match pieces of the western arsenal they will go from force multiplier to burning wreck in short order.

You are running out weaponry.

This isnt ww2.

-You no longer possess half the worlds production capacity.
-Your supply chains are now globalised, and even dependent on the good will of hostile foreign powers whereas in ww2 you had a near autarky
-Aside from the USA, Most western countries do not have the capacity for mass production of advanced weapons. The factories would have to be built. You cant build modern tanks in an automobile factory.

Shit, Its going to take 2 years for you to increase production of shells to 90,000 a month, and shells arent difficult to produce. Its going to take years to properly restart production of stingers and javelins. It will take years to restart the tank production lines at Lima.

By that time, this war will likely be done and over with, and the Americans know it. Thats why they are pushing the Eurocucks to send THEIR weapons.

You'd need a mass economic mobilisation to properly supply ukraine, and that would take years to to do. If you could pump Ukraine with new weapons, you'd be doing so instead of begging african countries to donate BMP 1's

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Other ships carrying Moscow’s oil are doing so outside the mechanism specified by the cap. More than 75 loadings of Russian crude from Dec. 5 through Jan. 14 were onto tankers that lacked insurance from Western and Japanese clubs, which dominate shipping insurance, insurance data show.

Tankers run by Sun Ship Management, Sovcomflot’s Dubai subsidiary, accounted for 46 of the 160-plus loadings of Russian crude in that period.

All told, tankers controlled by companies in the United Arab Emirates, Hong Kong, China, India and Russia shipped more than 60% of Russian crude since the price cap took effect, according to Yen Ling Song, analyst at S&P Global Commodities at Sea, while 29% moved on European-controlled ships, mostly from Greece and Turkey. In contrast, European and American operators accounted for more than 90% of Kazakh oil shipments from Russian ports, showing how Western shippers are avoiding Moscow’s crude. Ships carrying Russian oil were on average six years older.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/invasion-of-ukraine-news-megathread.113457/post-14501940

On Russian Oil price cap effects