Gross Aella Martin / Rachael Antier Slick / Abigail Glass / @Aella_Girl / @Aellagirl / @Miss_Aella / u/Sweatywoman / RedVerse / Apostate Slick / Knowingless - Rationalist LessWrong poly libertarian hooker girl throwing rape orgy parties. Former $100k/month OnlyFans star and $3,000/hour prostitute. Would rather come up with gross hypotheticals than shower.

How many people will show up to Aella's birthday gangbang?


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I'm still unsure on her "Autism". I know woman do have autism in different ways to how men do and seeing videos of her she seems to have autism hand movements but at the same time she just comes off as a cunt who thinks she is smarter and better than everyone while also being incredibly stupid for that exact same reason.

Reading that post about her just sorta reaffirms that her autism really does not affect her much and she is just kinda a cunt who skirted by doing the most basic bitch shit that would get her praise and being a rich girl also helped that.
She does not seem to have an actual personality and probably would let you put your willy in her stinky unwashed cheese hole if you said she was smart to reaffirm her dimwitted belief.

Also huge ass egghead

She's used to being complimented and fawned over. It barely affects her. (She's also used to being criticized, like here; it goes both ways.)

Anyway, I don't want to insult her body. I do agree that I don't think she has autism and is just playing this up for nerd-clout. My guess is that she was just homeschooled and the social ineptitude passes as autism.

She's extremely facially unaware. This is difficult to describe over the internet. Here is a short video of me talking: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnSs4qGqkNF/

If you pay attention to the upper part of my eyes, my eye folds change to emphasize what I'm saying — I'm "talking with my eyes." (I'm not saying I'm a great communicator or anything, this is just an example.)

This sort of thing is, occasionally, totally lost on Aella. You'll ask her a pretty straightforward question, or say something where the implication is clear, and she'll give you a deer-in-headlights look. But I say "occasionally" because other times she's completely normal. This hit-or-miss nature of her communication IMO points more to having a lot of social "gaps" from being homeschooled than from autism. (Plus, I've known homeschooled kids. It has that... homeschooled flavor. You have to experience it to know what I'm talking about.)

Oh, I forgot to mention this:

She makes a lot of money but she does not make 100k/month. 100k was her best month, and she allows people to go around and say she makes 100k/month. She makes somewhere between 300k and 400k annually, or did in 2020-2021 anyway. I know this because I polled the Austin LessWrong group on their annual income and this was her response. I'd imagine she makes less now because she's not nearly as about OnlyFans as she used to be — to say nothing of the recession economy.

One of Aella's more lizard-like traits is that she will rarely correct someone if they've said something flattering but only partially-true. So, you've heard she makes "100k/month" which was technically true once and is not an outright falsehood but is definitely not representative of the truth. You've probably also noticed that she's not gone out of her way to correct this; she'd much rather have you believe that this was her monthly income every month. (If this isn't lying by omission, it's close to it.)

A much less consequential but still in-character example of this is when we compared typing speeds.

She said she typed 175wpm. Have you ever tested your typing speed? 175wpm is RIDICULOUS.

SURE ENOUGH, this was a TypeRacer score. If you know anything about competitive typing — I don't, but I've known people — you know that TypeRacer is a good way for typists to compete but a horrible measurement of typing speed, because you can get a string of short sentences that you can burst-type. (Burst typing is totally a thing.) To give you an idea of the culture now, here is some streamer in a silly shark costume doing around 180wpm bursting. There is a video of Aella beating the ex-Starcraft pro Destiny at TypeRacer. In this case, respect where it's due: she's legit good. She beat my scores by about 5-10wpm, and I'm pretty good. (I don't know why she doesn't lean into this — it's way more interesting than talking about sex work 24/7, or how she doesn't shower.)

But. When I was asking what everyone typed, I was obviously asking for a traditional one-minute typing run like on http://www.10fastfingers.com — I've seen employers use variations of this test for transcription testing. So, I reran the poll and asked for specifically 10fastfingers scores. A former competitive typist I knew got something like 165-170. Aella got around 145 range on a standard 60-second test. This is obviously a significant decline from what she claimed.

When people ask your WPM, they're almost always asking for your 60-second WPM, like here. Occasionally they'll want your 3-minute or 5-minute WPM, and this kind of extended WPM is IMO an interesting category that hasn't been explored much and should be more — BUT NONETHELESS they'll want your 60 second WPM. Aella defaulted to giving the TypeRacer speed, which is a classically misleading metric.

The point of writing all of this crap about typing is to say that there are patterns to this bullshit.

If there is an opportunity to exaggerate or fluff and no one will call her out, she'll take it and let people walk away with the more flattering impression. This is not just a one-off behavior; it's a character trait.
 
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She's shilling her Askhole cards again:
Very easy to have 10 things in stock, simps buy all of it, then say "stock is flying off the shelf."

She moved here in May 2021; I helped her move, both to sincerely try to make amends and selfishly because she paid for the food of whoever did.
Helping anyone move is a tedious, strenuous, and generous task meant for extremely close friends and family members. It's baffling you chose to do this as recompense for an internet beef.

a great majority of what Aella writes or creates is produced by someone else.
Do you have other examples of this? The steals-tweets-from-paranoid-party-people theory is amusing because how frequently does someone like Aella hang out with people who often say things that are cancellable yet tweetable?

She's used to being complimented and fawned over.
Is it because she's willing to get naked on camera, taking out all the guesswork and imagination for her simps?
 
I was wondering when this pretentious whore would get her own thread. Great work, OP. LOL at her comment about her "microbiome". She's just making excuses for not wanting to clean herself. Someone needs to tell her that being slick with words is not the same as being intelligent. I also believe the part about her taking other people's thoughts and ideas and passing them off as her own. She'll do anything to make herself appear smarter than she really is.
 
@Alfred MacDonald can you elaborate on what you meant by being cancelled? Were you just kicked from the SlateStarCodex discord by some simp discord moderator or was it more personal? Also have you ever met Scott Alexander? Is he a turbocuck irl?

Bay Area "rationalists"* putting up with this obvious psychic vampire would have made me lose respect for them if the whole FTX effective altruism shit hadn't already depleted my charity for gross polyamorous nerds that personify the Dunning-Kruger effect.





*obliged to put scare quotes around the word "rationalist" because of how gay and off-putting of a label it is to anyone with a shred of humility.
 
I don't, sorry. I'm aware that makes it more or less hearsay, but the only instances I could provide are in the Austin LessWrong/ACX discord, which I am banned from, and Discord wipes your access to chat histories once you're removed from a server.
> She got me cancelled from the local Austin LW community. We had beefed previously over two things:

What were you cancelled for? and what does the Austin LW community mean?
 
and jerk each other off
Sometimes literally in fact.
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SURE ENOUGH, this was a TypeRacer score. If you know anything about competitive typing — I don't, but I've known people — you know that TypeRacer is a good way for typists to compete but a horrible measurement of typing speed, because you can get a string of short sentences that you can burst-type. (Burst typing is totally a thing.) To give you an idea of the culture now, here is some streamer in a silly shark costume doing around 180wpm bursting. There is a video of Aella beating the ex-Starcraft pro Destiny at TypeRacer. In this case, respect where it's due: she's legit good. She beat my scores by about 5-10wpm, and I'm pretty good. (I don't know why she doesn't lean into this — it's way more interesting than talking about sex work 24/7, or how she doesn't shower.)

But. When I was asking what everyone typed, I was obviously asking for a traditional one-minute typing run like on http://www.10fastfingers.com — I've seen employers use variations of this test for transcription testing. So, I reran the poll and asked for specifically 10fastfingers scores. A former competitive typist I knew got something like 165-170. Aella got around 145 range on a standard 60-second test. This is obviously a significant decline from what she claimed.

When people ask your WPM, they're almost always asking for your 60-second WPM, like here. Occasionally they'll want your 3-minute or 5-minute WPM, and this kind of extended WPM is IMO an interesting category that hasn't been explored much and should be more — BUT NONETHELESS they'll want your 60 second WPM. Aella defaulted to giving the TypeRacer speed, which is a classically misleading metric.
It seems like she CAN hit 170wpm for like a couple words but then falls down to a Still far above average speed for a person but nothing close to what she claims.
Such a silly thing to lie about though, especially because she could easily still impress people being in a 140 range.
 
There's a lot to unpack in some of these questions, so I'll start with this one:
Helping anyone move is a tedious, strenuous, and generous task meant for extremely close friends and family members. It's baffling you chose to do this as recompense for an internet beef.
You're right. It is weird on the surface.

The rationalist community works like this:

Of about say, 50 people, there are:

— 10 ultrabads; they all have insufferable qualities. There will be a handful of these, say 3-5, who are so horrible on a human level that you'd hesitate making the correct decision on a Trolley Problem if they were the ones tied up. (These categories can switch around, sort of like how you're not always in the top tax bracket.)

— 35 people who are just okay; they're not better or worse than anyone from anywhere else. They're just like, idk, coworkers you'd have or people you'd meet in classes. They're just people. Most of what they do is blameless and fine.

— 5 ultragoods; these are people who will become your best friends. You'll have real-ass connections where you think "I've never heard another person say those words, I only felt that." These can be some of the best friends you've ever had.

So, the "ultragoods" are worth it. This was an IRL community where I wanted to maintain connections with people I was close to for as long as I could.

I say "as I could" because often, and this is a problem with subcultures in general: the subculture interferes with the friendship. You have to distinguish who is your friend, and who is your friend with the subculture.

Just to name an example, there is a delightful and sweet man I and my ex-girlfriend knew who dropped off contact and was, I think, disillusioned with the community in some way. He had a heart of gold and was a fantastic singer as well as a trustworthy confidant and extremely empathetic person. My ex (we were friends for long after our breakup) hated most rationalists but loved this guy, and we'd drive from San Antonio to Austin to see him. He was fantastic.

We wouldn't know him but for that community. He's the sort of person you stay around for. And I met about five people from that scene who I would strongly regret not knowing if I had the choice. The gems you meet are why people put up with this crap.
 
I don't, sorry. I'm aware that makes it more or less hearsay, but the only instances I could provide are in the Austin LessWrong/ACX discord, which I am banned from, and Discord wipes your access to chat histories once you're removed from a server.

The specific case where I noticed this was when I criticized the methodology of her political compass fetish and noticed what I was saying silently incorporated into her writing, even though she hadn't so much as acknowledged the criticism in our discussion. That's the best I've got on that end. I noticed her farming out the discussions to multiple chats, then sort of puppeteering the arguments and incorporating what other people said with the strong suggestion (on her blog) that it was her own thought. This is more of a Carlos Mencia style method than Naomi Wu.

She's always had problems with citation and ... acknowledging that other people did things she can't just do independently, or won't do independently. This is from our philosophy beef, when I told her that mentioning the names of philosophers was not "namedropping" but crediting the person who thought of the idea:
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I cannot stress enough that she thinks she can do more or less whatever field she wants on her own accord with little to no training. For example:
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Note: She does not do this.

She farmed out a question about "natural progesterone" to the health and fitness section of the Austin LW discord. She was trying to figure out if she should take a vitamin E oil that has progesterone derived from yams, as opposed to I guess just taking birth control — my memory fails me on why exactly she was asking, but she considered her pseudo-doctor's lack of connection to standard medicine a good thing.

Men will go out of their way to help her, so she can effectively ask Man A about X and then Man B about X and Man C about X and pit their responses against each other and see what they say. IMO this is fine, actually, as long as you're upfront about it, but she acts as if these are thoughts completely of her own.

So, yeah, this is more of a Carlos Mencia situation — it's less like "I got a man to write my whole essay for me" and more "by drawing together what has been said from man A, man B, man C, man D, man E (and so on) I have assembled something that looks complete and like I did it entirely on my own." Carlos Mencia retold other people's jokes in his own style; she'll rewrite what other people say and not bother to correct someone if they thought she came up with it.

This is the main thing: I've literally never seen her credit someone. I think that alone speaks volumes.

Why is it that every "cool" intellectual girl online turns out to be a fraud? I wonder.
 
Do you have other examples of this? The steals-tweets-from-paranoid-party-people theory is amusing because how frequently does someone like Aella hang out with people who often say things that are cancellable yet tweetable?

I do have one example of her using a tweet from a party.

First, about this party: it was for Petrov day. This is IMO a great idea because Petrov is a person who had exceptional moral courage and deserves to be celebrated, and if we're going to drink over Saint Patrick we can certainly drink over a guy who saved us from nuclear war. However, we... read out passages from sci-fi while periodically lighting candles in such a way that felt way too culty. When I went inside to take a shot and have food — the host of this party was fantastic and the food was also — another friend had a reaction along the lines of "yeah, it's a bit much, right?" (This was referencing the cultishness aspect.)

When this ritual ended, it was just a normal party. I was seated next to Aella on the corner of an L-shaped couch configuration and she was polling people, because of course she was.

At one point a person suggested that she ask a question about the Make-A-Wish foundation hiring a prostitute for a dying child who wishes to have sex. Aella suddenly deviates from her baseline and turns into a Quirky Girl who shouts "I have to tweet this!", runs to the sliding glass door and into the dining room where her phone is. As she's tweeting, she giggles about how she's "going to be ratio'd." Before she posts, she asks if the creator of this Make-A-Wish scenario wants attribution.

This was perfunctory, because Aella knew and knows the question creator works for a company where being attributed for this would not be at all okay to have publicly attached to their name and they'd probably get fired. So, Aella knew in advance that this person would decline. There's no way she didn't know. That's how this (https://archive.md/YEE8r) happened; I was there.

This sort of thing happens, I suspect, all the time. I *strongly believe* this is how she gets most of her material.
 
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Is [Aella's appeal] because she's willing to get naked on camera, taking out all the guesswork and imagination for her simps?

Not quite — it's more psychological.

I think there are multiple reasons Aella is used to being fawned over, but three primarily stand out in my mind:

1. There is a sort of back-of-mind mentality that a lot of people who work in tech have, like a grown-up jock-nerd mindset toward the world; this is obviously not how the world works, as there are tons of smart athletes. But a lot of people will carry this mentality into adulthood and won't be attracted to normal escorts because the escorts might act like women who rejected them in high school. Aella is a safe option for these people; they feel like she is on their 'side'. (The very indoctrinated people will say she "is grey tribe.")

2. Of course, there are people who are simply racist and want a woman who looks exceptionally pale and white like she does. When I was an escort I benefited from a similar thing because at the time I had Robert Pattinson Twilight aesthetics. There *are* people whose aesthetic preferences are strongly dictating this, especially when it comes to race, and this is just an unfortunate reality for any kind of sex work.

3. But, and I think this is the most central category of Aella's appeal to this crowd: a lot of these people base their identity around their intelligence and would believe that they are debasing themselves if they sleep with a stupid escort. For example, they wouldn't go to a strip club, because they would believe that the women there are stupid. Since Aella is hyper-overtly advertised as smart, they believe that they are "allowed" to be attracted to her and desire her in ways that they wouldn't a normal prostitute or whatever.

@Alfred MacDonald can you elaborate on what you meant by being cancelled? Were you just kicked from the SlateStarCodex discord by some simp discord moderator or was it more personal? Also have you ever met Scott Alexander? Is he a turbocuck irl?

Sure. There is a rule about "keeping your embarrassing details to yourself" so I don't know if answering this question will violate that but I'll try.

Also, it's long, but I have a whole post about this already written up @ https://archive.md/TryVI. I'll try to condense this down for y'all.

So, first: yes, it absolutely involves a simp discord moderator. The simpiest. Alex Zavoluk (AlexZ) would sit next to Aella at every opportunity, and would side with her in absurd arguments he'd normally dismantle if a man made them; he also asked her out on their first meeting. There was universal agreement about this bias.

Second: yes, it is also absolutely personal. I had a romance with a woman — we never dated, but exchanged 8,500 DMs over two months — and Lots Of Things Happened. (Just to name one example: she was in the process of ending a relationship, so we agreed to not talk to each other for a few months until she had sorted it out. Roughly a week later this same woman shows up at a party she thinks I will be attending in a gorgeous dark red dress; I get a message at 12AM "why weren't you there?" — this was an intense and chaotic and extremely emotional thing.)

At one point I told her the story of how I was shot at when I went to a strip club after a breakup. The whole story is in audio form here but I'll just leave the key points:

- Strip clubs in Texas are often open until 5AM and are often BYOB, while bars in Texas close at 2AM. So if you want to get drunk and have loud music drown out your brain — which you might want to do if, say, a woman you loved a lot just broke up with you — this is a great place to make your head empty for a bit.

- I wasn't truly "shot at"; I was behind a wall/bush and a guy was firing his gun at the club. (But then again, I was hiding with another guy who had his leg shot in a previous shooting at the same club. Either way, I didn't feel especially in danger; the security team had the aggression and energy like they were ready to take down El Chapo. I would hire them in an instant if I knew the name of the firm and needed protection)

- I live in San Antonio, TX. This is one of the few major cities in the US where you will often be a minority if you are white. There were, maybe, 3-5 white people in this club of easily 100+ patrons. One was a mousey, blonde white chick who I strongly suspected was under 21. Most of the patrons who were women were other strippers coming to see their friends, and most of the patrons in general seemed to be guys who had something to prove to their other guy friends or themselves. The mousey white girl stuck out like a sore thumb. So I asked her "what do you get out of this?" — she answered with "ASS AND TITTIES". I lost curiosity around then.

The woman I was involved with hyperfocused on the fact that I talked to "21 year olds with nothing in their eyes" and was practically in a rage for an hour over this. The "being shot at part" was a non-consideration, nor any other aspect of this story; it was just "your feelings for me don't mean anything if this is what can get you interested." This was extremely out of character for her and I had never heard her talk to me this way.

So, we (several of us from Austin LessWrong) had a relationship chat. A large part of this was because we could not say much negative about Aella openly without repercussion, but we ended up talking about relationships enough that it became the focus of our chat.

I shared the screenshots where my ... whatever-she-was went off on me. I wanted a sanity check, i.e. "is this sane? Should I have reacted the way I did? What should I do?" — and so on.

I did not know this at the time, but the LessWrong/ACX sphere has extremely bizarre and paranoid norms about "doxxing" (by which they just mean realnaming, i.e. using someone's real name) and extremely paranoid norms around sharing information in general. This incident caused three people to leave our group.

A while later I called out a stupid post Aella made here on my FB. I was chastised for this in the local discord because Aella "could not respond." (Yes, she could not; she is not my fb friend and I didn't want her commentary. This was more of a PSA than something I'm up for debating.)

This was when the pile-on happened. At this same time, someone had been DMing women in the discord that I was "a manipulator" and "a sociopath", "based on my reddit history". This was almost certainly someone involved with Colin Popell ("orthonormalist") who runs https://aristillus.xyz. This is because I stopped using reddit in 2017, and deleted my account in 2019, and this event took place in late 2021. Only someone who knew me from a long time ago would do this, and people close to Colin Popell had an axe to grind with me.

One among them was Eigenrobot, AKA Samuel Henly, who is the central figure in the "postrationalist" twitter sphere. (Yes, this exists.) Colin Popell is/was moving to Texas, and was friends with Ryan Abel, a carnivore diet advocate I regularly beefed with who would repost BS-spewing fitness influencers of the likes of Solbrah (Carl Genz). At one point he cited my own reddit post against me in an argument not knowing I had wrote it. (And apparently not having read all of it; his argument was that oral birth control is categorically bad, and I had an addendum comment specifying that DHEA from most grocery stores should be enough to ameliorate those side effects.)

Colin had two primary reasons to not want me around, one of which is good and one of which is scandalous:

1. He introduced me to an ex girlfriend of mine, who was BPD and broke up with me 13 separate times. This was a traumatizing relationship for her and me. However, since Colin introduced us, she'd only talk to him when things were horrible on her end. Therefore, his impression of me was probably very bad, and based on what information he had I could see why.

2. Eigenrobot / Samuel, as I said, is a central figure if not *the* figure of the "postrationalist" movement. His wife is Mackenzie Henly. Before they had dated, Mackenzie and I used to sext a lot. She had admitted that she wanted, or at least thought about, having my children. (We ultimately had no nonverbal chemistry when we videochatted, so I figured we would not work.)

Therefore, it is somewhat problematic if the central figure of a movement you are trying to start is enemies with a person whose wife wanted to have the babies of that enemy, and whose current babies would not exist had he not been disinterested in her.



So, to summarize "why were you canceled":

1. Yes, a simp discord moderator.​
2. Yes, personal reasons / sharing screenshots of personal things.​
3. Various scary DMs about me being "a manipulator" who were probably from Colin, who knew one of my ex girlfriends only when we were at our worst.​
4. I used to sext with the wife of the most prominent postrationalist before they were a thing, and she wanted to have my children. In effect, this means his children would not exist had I not been disinterested in her. You can understand why this would make someone a bit irrational, even despite their best efforts to be objective.​

As for "have you met Scott Alexander IRL" — no; after I was banned they had temporarily banned the entire city of San Antonio and took great caution to make sure that when Scott arrived in Austin I could not know where he was. I think Scott is fine, though; his writing about psychiatric subject matter is very good.
 
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Sure. There is a rule about "keeping your embarrassing details to yourself" so I don't know if answering this question will violate that but I'll try.
That rule only exists to stop retards from derailing threads, don't worry about it.
I did not know this at the time, but the LessWrong/ACX sphere has extremely bizarre and paranoid norms about "doxxing" (by which they just mean realnaming, i.e. using someone's real name) and extremely paranoid norms around sharing information in general. This incident caused three people to leave our group.
Oh boy, can't wait for them to discover this thread then. For a people who go on about how what can be destroyed by the truth should be, they seem especially paranoid around public information. Of course these were the same people who got absolutely mindfucked by the retarded Roko's Basilisk thought experiment.
A while later I called out a stupid post Aella made here on my FB. I was chastised for this in the local discord because Aella "could not respond." (Yes, she could not; she is not my fb friend and I didn't want her commentary. This was more of a PSA than something I'm up for debating.)
Seems like an extension of those bizarre norms around sharing completely public information. I bet they'll have the same reaction to this OP which repeats Aella's own words about wanting AI-generated child pornography.
One among them was Eigenrobot, AKA Samuel Henly, who is the central figure in the "postrationalist" twitter sphere. (Yes, this exists.)
Oh boy, sounds like you could contribute to the rationalists thread! I don't think postrats have been covered yet but I already hate their "post" name.

For a self-professed "rational" people they sure seem to partake a lot in irrational behaviors to outcast people they don't like. I think all your claims could be verified if someone were to join the Discord and export all the messages but your links help too.
 
Oh boy, sounds like you could contribute to the rationalists thread! I don't think postrats have been covered yet but I already hate their "post" name.

For a self-professed "rational" people they sure seem to partake a lot in irrational behaviors to outcast people they don't like. I think all your claims could be verified if someone were to join the Discord and export all the messages but your links help too.

It sucks ass, a lot, for anyone who values epistemic rationality as a virtue. (Many academics do, for example.) This is why I try to preface all references to their formation as "lesswrong rationality" and not "rationality" on its own.

I don't have much to contribute to that thread because everything I could say has already been said in this video I made:

I think the question on all our minds is: do it, in fact, smell crazy in there?

No. She's lying. She showers like a normal person.

Remember the most important rule: if whatever Aella is doing actually interferes with her ability to social-climb, she won't do it. Her endgame is to marry a crypto-billionaire or the equivalent of Peter Thiel if he was straight, and ride their clout to the grave. Her talk about selling eggs, avoiding pregnancy, whatever — it doesn't matter. Read Wittgenstein's Poker if you want to know what research-obsessed people act like. Donald Knuth is a research guy; his biography is incredible, and you can google "Knuth learned" just to... learn about what he learned. Aella does not want to actually do research, she wants to pretend to know enough Python and R and whatever-is-relevant methodology to nab this person. (Her "date me" quiz had a checkmark box for 100m+ net worth; that should tell you enough.)

Bluntly: She wants to get the biggest fish in her lake. Everything else is farcical.
 
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A bit of baseless speculation:
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A certain user on rdrama brought up the theory floating around on the lolcow.farm post-rationalist thread that Aella is the Silicon Valley equivalent of Ghislaine Maxwell, hooking up rich dweebs with young girls and hosting parties for compromat. While this theory would explain a lot, I doubt that she is capable of it, lacking the actual intelligence background someone like Maxwell would need. I feel like such theories give her too much credit. She is just a pickme trying to maximize her appeal to shy tech billionaires and her sex work credentials are exaggerated (imagine wanting to be the coolest whore!).

I’m sure someone similar must exist though.

I wonder who would win in a fight, Aella or Caroline Ellison, the Samuel Bankman Fried Weasel?
 
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