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Cartoon reviewer Schaffrillas is in critical condition with two others confirmed dead. Killed by the thing he hated most, Cars, 2 of them
I always felt like Schaff was tipping on the cowish side of things with his reviews, but holy fuck no one should ever have to go through that kind of tragedy... F :(
 
The New Tiny Toons got leaked. I'd upload it but honestly I think this sucks so much dick I don't even want Null to have to get an email from HBO's lawyers to get it off the internet.


I HATE TOONBOOM. I HATE MILLENNIAL WRITERS. I HATE THE ANTICHRIST. Why are the voices so shitty, are they placeholders??? This makes the Animaniacs Hulu Reboot look like gold by contrast.
2023's competition to make the shittiest reboot/revival is getting heated! Clone High got a head start but Tiny Toons takes the lead by having worst voice acting, terrible animation, having Babsy always doing those ugly faces on the stills, zero jokes and tranny bait! (just look at the amount of crossdressing in this episode, Hamton compliments to Buster's disguise and the catwalk in the end. They are going to be drooling all over this.)

And the year is just starting, just imagine all the wonderful series that we are going to get by the end of it.
 
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Seems he's conscious now. Poor guy, this is gonna stick with him for the rest of his life.
 

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Seems he's conscious now. Poor guy, this is gonna stick with him for the rest of his life.
He was a general sperg but he didn’t deserve that. The only question is if he’s permafucked or not. He was the driver in that situation but unless he did something truly retarded this is just tragic overall
 
The only question is if he’s permafucked or not. He was the driver in that situation but unless he did something truly retarded this is just tragic overall
Mentally he'll be a wreck especially since he was the driver. I don't see someone like that taking the guilt, if he was actually at fault or not.
 
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I started rewatching this to get some kind of idea what happened on Third Earth. Halfway through and nothing. The only hint is that Mumm-Ra has been around since 'First Earth'.

Oh well, kids cartoon.
Yeah, I kinda always thought that any indication of the past was so long ago that unless its self-sustaining like the Robear-Berbils, its probably reduced to dust by now.

If I owned the rights to every 1980s cartoon I would probably drop hints that Third Earth is the same earth from Thundarr the Barbarian.

Actually my first impulse was to connect it to the obscure cartoon Sectaurs: Warriors of Symbion, but I rewatched that one and its intro clearly states it does not take place on Earth.


Now THERE is a cartoon that needs a revival, because honestly the five episodes that exist show a lot of promise... but it just didn't catch on for whatever reason.
 
The New Tiny Toons got leaked. I'd upload it but honestly I think this sucks so much dick I don't even want Null to have to get an email from HBO's lawyers to get it off the internet.


I HATE TOONBOOM. I HATE MILLENNIAL WRITERS. I HATE THE ANTICHRIST. Why are the voices so shitty, are they placeholders??? This makes the Animaniacs Hulu Reboot look like gold by contrast.
Edit: Apparently, it was a scene and not the full pilot my bad. But I think the animation is OK, but still I have more hope that they fix the pilot of this in the writing and voices department not like the Clone High Reboot which looks like it's doomed.
 
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What is with with cartoons and just being sitcoms for manchildren now. I don't remember tiny toons at all, haven't seen it in at least 20 years, but i don't think anyone needed an unfunny 20 minute deconstruction on how the looney tunes worked.
A lot of it is animation companies getting cheaper. We have all the tools to create impressive animation, but companies penny-pinch beyond belief because they don’t see animation as worth-while. As a result, cartoons become sitcoms of static images where the dialogue drives them. It doesn’t help that sitcoms are the only thing the average burger takes seriously or feels adult for watching, a problem that really hits adult animation hard leading to numerous Simpsons clones.

The rest of the issue is what @Grumpy Pickle Rick said. Most animators today don’t care for animation, and especially not western animation. Though another issue is companies forcing these new-age creators to work on pre-established brands regardless of them liking them, rather than letting them develop new IP. Now you get a bunch of pissed of Millennials, angry their original creation got sidestepped for Scooby Doo, and taking it out on the IP.
 
Ok where to even begin with this new tiny toons? First of all did these writers even read a summary of the original show? Just because it's acme looniversity doesn't mean it was a literal university. Smce loo in the original show still operated like a typical middle/high school. It didn't have doors or scholarships the characters went there in the morning left by the afternoon and that was that.


Secondly they don't flat out say it but babs and sweetie refer to dizzy with they as a pronoun (Hey pronoun trouble) and I can't help but wonder if he's been retconned into being non binary (does the writing staff of this show have any troons on board?) Hearing characters from the long gone 90s talk like this is just....wrong. it's almost worse than having the powerpuff girls speak in modern ong yaass slang.
tranny bait! (just look at the amount of crossdressing in this episode, Hamton compliments to Buster's disguise and the catwalk in the end. They are going to be drooling all over this.)
I wanted to give them the benfift of the doubt and say it was just an homage to the classic gag of crossdressing to fool the antangonist I mean the looney tunes show did it (and better) especially since back in action hinted crossdressing may be a joke that the lonney tunes should be dropping. But in this day and age when a pedo uaf troon can get away with making a 5 year old trans girl in a flintstones cartoon i don't know what to think anymore.

At least the animaniacs reboot was in the ballpark with the original actors and some semblance of the original tone. A satire on daily life and pop culture mixed in with the tales of pinky and the brain trying to rule the world. IT wasn't a good reboot but it was in the ballpark, This? Much like ow it's theorized velma was originally meant to be a teen horror mystery cartoon that added the scooby doo license last minute for brand recognition I can't help if something similar happened with acme looniversity.


but on to the news with Schaffrillas. Personally I liked his work better when he made ytps and the cartoon reviews just...got worse and worse with each one. and yeah simping for bre larson? It's almost enough to make me belive in karma. but all jokes aside my condolences to lose family and nearly die in a crash is something I wouldn't wish on anyone, lolcow or not he's still human.
 
I mentioned tales from the crypt keeper a while ago when i talked about stuff getting kid friendly spinoffs in animation (yes robocop, rambo, highlander, james bond, just to name a few and even aliens was going to have a cartoon but it got canned before it was made) I actually gave the show a watch mainly because I'm getting into the original 50s horror comics like TFTC.

I can give credit where it's due the second season actually brought in the old witch and the vault keeper from the other EC horror books The vault of horror and the haunt of fear. Characters who hadn't been seen since 1955 and were never in any other version of the series. And the colors really do evoke the four color pallet limitation older comics had. If YOU wanna check it out I advise sticking to only season one and two though. When it was on cbs the only rule was it couldn't be too scary, no worse than the goosebumps books that were also popular at the time. When it got revived for a third season and moved to abc though it had to adhere to the e/l standards....which basically meant it had to have "educational merit" to be aired on TV.

The earlier season has "morals" woven into the writing but it was not much different than most shows on network weekend/afternoon tv at the time. Noticeable but not too on the nose.
 
That's precisely the root of the issue - these people genuinely hate the original cartoons, and the people that enjoy them. Get someone like @skykiii in front of a Thundercats reboot, I guarantee you it'll do gangbusters. But no. The screeching harpies are given free reign over these properties because nepotism/diversity.
I'm a little embarrassed to have gotten this vote of confidence...

.... though a part of me worries I'd lose this vote of confidence if you ever actually saw my attempts at art or heard my ideas for original stories. (Only one Kiwi has seen my art and he's confirmed what I suspected--that it's just barely better than Chris-chan tier).
I mentioned tales from the crypt keeper a while ago when i talked about stuff getting kid friendly spinoffs in animation (yes robocop, rambo, highlander, james bond, just to name a few and even aliens was going to have a cartoon but it got canned before it was made) I actually gave the show a watch mainly because I'm getting into the original 50s horror comics like TFTC.

I can give credit where it's due the second season actually brought in the old witch and the vault keeper from the other EC horror books The vault of horror and the haunt of fear. Characters who hadn't been seen since 1955 and were never in any other version of the series. And the colors really do evoke the four color pallet limitation older comics had. If YOU wanna check it out I advise sticking to only season one and two though. When it was on cbs the only rule was it couldn't be too scary, no worse than the goosebumps books that were also popular at the time. When it got revived for a third season and moved to abc though it had to adhere to the e/l standards....which basically meant it had to have "educational merit" to be aired on TV.

The earlier season has "morals" woven into the writing but it was not much different than most shows on network weekend/afternoon tv at the time. Noticeable but not too on the nose.
I've been told the original EC Horror comics were also moralistic, but just in a more subtle way. Like eventually a person would be brought down by his hubris or something like that.

Only episode of the cartoon I remember was this one about an archeologist guy and this little girl, and the guy turns out to actually be a robber who sells artifacts on the black market... then the girl turns out to be a monster who turns him to stone or something, and she says something about protecting the tomb from thieves and plunderers.... if that's as bad as the moralizing gets, its in a good place.

Unpopular opinion... I actually like the Highlander cartoon. Honestly most of the time I hear people criticize it, its just people like Spoony who get hung up on how its inconsistent with the movies. Which I feel is kind of an autistic complaint, in this case more than most others, since even the movies are inconsistent. I tend to view it more as a stealth remake of Thundarr the Barbarian than as part of the Highlander franchise.
 
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