lobsterdance
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Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)
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Big Raven's Son vibes.
People really need to stop with the stigma against bro-y men.
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I still have the full set of those images saved on my phone. Way better idea than I Am Not Starfire.
skykiii
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Honestly if I were trying to think of "good" anime I would probably list a bunch of 80s-90s OVAs and theatrical films before a million-episodes-long TV series.
Or the work of Osamu Tezuka, but there's a weird nuance... anime based on his work tend to suck (though I recall liking the 1980s Astro Boy), his anime-original stuff tends to be unremarkable, but his manga (especially in the 70s and 80s) tend to not read like "normal" manga and thus aren't really representative. Guy is like, on a completely different playing field.
Anyway I can understand "anime sucks" feelings these days. It used to seem special back when most of the garbage stayed in Japan, but now we get literally everything they shit out and most of it really is just oversaturated garbage, that makes it easy to be cynical.
The anime I personally hold up as "the good shit" are Ranma 1/2, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Detective Conan (although I do feel it needs to hurry up and end soon), 3x3 Eyes, The Slayers, the aforementioned 1980s Astro Boy, Robotech, Lily CAT, GoShogun the Time Etranger (but not necessarily the TV series its based on--this movie is fine stand-alone), the first Gall Force movie, and the Street Fighter II anime movie.
oh, and Speed Racer. I don't care what anyone says.
I could probably name more but really I've derailed this topic enough as it is.
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Since we're on an anime-vs-western-animation kick, honestly.... I feel like anime has a far higher batting average. In fact in the 1990s I turned towards anime specifically because I hated how Western Animation (or more specifically American animation) was going.
It's kinda weird for me, when I read this topic and I see people talk about how stuff like Ed Edd n Eddy and the early seasons of Spongebob were apparently some sort of high point, because to me they were the kind of shit I hated and which was turning me towards Japan. More specifically I liked that Japan could still be dramatic, while America was tending towards self-aware comedy (yes, this was a thing even in the late 1990s)... not to mention un-pleasing animation styles, gross-out humor (I have a weak stomach so I can't stand gross-out jokes just on principle), and annoying unlikable characters.
If we were talking strictly about the 1980s or the early-to-mid 1990s, then yeah I'd say Western is Better. But we're not, we're including the late 1990s, the 2000s, and the 2010s (and possibly even the 70s and 60s). Yeah, no, anime wins by a mile under those conditions.
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Grumpy Pickle Rick
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Exactly. Everything has its good qualities and bad qualities.
Nothing is perfect.
I can understand that.
While I loved Ed Edd n Eddy as a kid, I fell out of love with the later seasons. I also hate gross-out humor.
Life is Hell...
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The New Tiny Toons got leaked. I'd upload it but honestly I think this sucks so much dick I don't even want Null to have to get an email from HBO's lawyers to get it off the internet.
I HATE TOONBOOM. I HATE MILLENNIAL WRITERS. I HATE THE ANTICHRIST. Why are the voices so shitty, are they placeholders??? This makes the Animaniacs Hulu Reboot look like gold by contrast.
I HATE TOONBOOM. I HATE MILLENNIAL WRITERS. I HATE THE ANTICHRIST. Why are the voices so shitty, are they placeholders??? This makes the Animaniacs Hulu Reboot look like gold by contrast.
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My God, that's two pilot leaks in two days! Warner Bros has got a mole problem.
TheAmbiguousLurker
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Somebody's trying to warn people early.
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Do it, I had a thread get double DMCA’d by Sony over TLOU2 once, it was great
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I saw the Clone High leak. It's not the worst thing out there, it's just aggressively okay.
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Commander X
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According to some people in the Extremely Online animation cliques, we're actually living in an age of unprecedented creativity which is why we're getting a million nostalgic revivals in animation and other media. You can see how well it's going in Western Animation. A dozen dogcrap revivals and reboots are released every month of shows like The fucking Proud Family that nobody seems to really care about except members of the Extremely Online toon cliques and most seem to be forgotten about in a few weeks. Original content barely seems to exist anymore. Craig McCracken is only involved in the PPG revival because Netflix turned down several original projects he pitched. Genndy Tartakovsky had to grind in the mines and even with his "clout" still barely got Primal made.
It's like how in videogaming, it looks like almost every single new game made now is either another entry in a franchise, a spiritual successor or something that some exec stumbled into and told a dev team "h-hey go make something based on this license we got" with coke dripping from his nose.
SecretMagicalGirl
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I don’t disagree, But I still give Japan the edge for one simple reason.
Not because I am a weeb, rather it’s because Anime doesn’t have any of the woke shit currently polluting western animation. Even anime at its worst is trying to be fun, or at least good enough to make a profit. Instead of the preachy garbage like Steven Universe, or shit like a Velma that gleefully gives the middle finger to old fans.
Woke shit isn’t content just making pure garbage, it also actively tries to ruin anything good about the past. Anime has yet to have a trend that comes even close to being this bad.
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wtfNeedSignUp
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I like the "our" community, the guy sounds like a cornerstone in animation well before the writer's mother decided in error not to abort her.
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I hate when they take an established franchise and try to turn it into something it's not. We didn't watch Tiny Toon Adventures because we wanted some lame sitcom, the school setting was only there to establish why there's these new children versions of the Looney Tunes. We watched it for the same reason we watched the reairings of Looney Tunes, because they're funny and creatively drawn cartoon sketches.
With Tiny Toons you have creative license to parody 100 years of pop culture. It doesn't matter if you're making a reference to something no 90s kid knew of as long as it was fun to watch you were golden. You can parody Marvel Movies, you can parody video games, you got free domain. Why would you trap yourself into thinking anyone wants these characters blabbering about stupid fucking shit? Who the fuck care about the Tazmanian Devil's COFFEE SHOP? I didn't watch all of the Looney Tunes shorts HBO Max commissioned but someone at Warner Bros gets what the point of these characters.
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The second I heard Buster's voice I knew this was in trouble.
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Bluey cum jar project.