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>tell someone to kill themselves
>Get arrested for practicing medicine without a license
Fucking Canada
>Get arrested for practicing medicine without a license
Fucking Canada
Diseased Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.
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Most likely, yeah.
There were some points where I considered leaving, but the NYT stuff kinda forced me out of all of that.
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I can't believe SS members have to flee to the farms to discuss their own community.
Welcome, obviously. Please tell us everything. This is quickly becoming my favourite thread.
Welcome, obviously. Please tell us everything. This is quickly becoming my favourite thread.
I’m a member of this site. This site is nothing like how the media portrays it. It’s supportive and many of the posts are vents rather than people looking for methods. The user demographics are broad, so there is a wealth of opinions. The user, FC, doesn’t seem malicious. She seems like a very depressed individual who uses the site as a way to vent. If you don’t like her, ignore her. She’s allowed to express her opinions. SS values freedom of speech. If people don’t like it they are free to leave.
Regarding family members of SS users who died. It’s pure cope. They didn’t give a shit about suicidal people before. SS is a scapegoat. Shutting down SS will not change suicide rates. In reality, it will stop people from venting. The real issues are much more complex and can’t be changed by ranting on Twitter.
Any legislation to remove sites like SS would set a precedent for removing sites like KF.
Regarding family members of SS users who died. It’s pure cope. They didn’t give a shit about suicidal people before. SS is a scapegoat. Shutting down SS will not change suicide rates. In reality, it will stop people from venting. The real issues are much more complex and can’t be changed by ranting on Twitter.
Any legislation to remove sites like SS would set a precedent for removing sites like KF.
I knew my son was suicidal, after he left an abusive relationship. He was trying to find support from other males who had been subjected to domestic abuse and had then become suicidal. He did not get this, instead he was told life wouldn’t get any better and was directed to the SN method. Once it became known who my son was, Marquis or one of his associates then used my son as one of their success stories.
Every other post on there is method talk, especially SN and lots of advice given on different methods of suicide. Everyday there are a number of new threads about methods, where to obtain products etc.
We also know that “ranting” on Twitter won’t change things but it gets to right people. We don’t only post on Twitter, we are also working with the U.K. government on this subject.
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LeftTitGalore
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I honestly think Funeral Cry is an alt of Rainandsadness, the troon in command. I also believe Funeral Cry to be a man. I'm not quite sure why though. they're both equally insufferable 
The online safety bill which is currently going through parliament, would have prevented the forum and harmful content being available. The government knew about the site in 2018 if they had actioned the online safety then, a lots of deaths would have been prevented. Following Joes inquest the coroner issued a regulation 28 in prevention of future deaths.
Since his death, sales of SN in the uk have become restricted.
@Sjm411
The most common suicide method in the UK is hanging. How is restricting SN going to change anything?
Like I said.. banning the site will not change suicide rates. It might bring you some comfort, but that’s about it. Anyway, new sites will take its place and information on ctb methods are all over the internet.
The most common suicide method in the UK is hanging. How is restricting SN going to change anything?
Like I said.. banning the site will not change suicide rates. It might bring you some comfort, but that’s about it. Anyway, new sites will take its place and information on ctb methods are all over the internet.
muffin123
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There has sadly been a few instances of questionable behavior, morals, desicion makings and opinions from the jannies. Especially with how they seem to favor women and other trannies, regardless of how extreme their posts can be. I’ve straight out witnessed bullying and witch hunts towards those who have criticized FC and other trannies such as "DeathDuetoDysphoria/CantDoItAnymore" who was mentioned earlier in this thread. Certain individuals as for example, "Suicidebydeath" have also recently created several threads where they posted numberous screenshots and quotes from FC where she was being "kind" to others, but left out all the posts where she’d been toxic to try and white wash her image on her behalves. It is beyond me why she has such so many white knights who put in an extreme amount of time and effort into trying to fix her reputation, on a suicide forum… when they are individuals who seem to struggle a lot more IRL than she does tbh, as she never told her story, but somehow has well over 17 000 posts. She whines about how lucky dead people are daily and how she’s jealous of those who die to diseases and in accidents. She seems completely uneffected by what she does and says to other people and don’t care that she hurt others.Even the fucking suicide forum starts joining their thread to complain about their jannies
Thanks for the welcome, and no worries. I’m glad to be here after seeing what a mess SS has turned into.
The whole situation is sad as it makes many uncomfortable with the idea of being open and vent anymore. Users are scared of saying anything that can trigger her or make her white knight army attack them into leaving the site permanently. I’ve spoken over DM’s to some of those that left SS due to this and it’s really unfortunate as this was their safe space and the only place where they could talk about their struggles openly without feeling judged for the most part, until they became targets of harasment for simply not agreeing with the fact that people who die from accidents and illnesses are lucky. It’s crazy to me that she derails so many threads that has nothing to do with her and that she start shit for no reason. We are all on SS due to wanting to die for the most part and we all suffer in some way or another, I don’t understand the point in making wars and drama with others who are not doing well in life, who might get pushed over the edge by someones words and actions on the site, because they make their life more miserable.
I support free speech, but like you said, there’s a time and a place. Derailing someone’s "good bye" thread is pretty unethical and distasteful to me, like how much of an attention seeker do you have to be? Respect the dead and the dying and let them have their peace. You don’t just go up to someone whos dying and complain about yourself and preach your personal, extremely depressing nihilistic philosphical beliefs moments before they pass away, unless you’re Funeral Cry. I also don’t support bullying and attacking everyone who says that they do not agree with your depressing and nihilistic views of life by calling them "pro lifers" and telling them to get off the forum, as if she owns the place and as she turn down people who feel that they have no where else to go. She makes people feel unwelcomed and undesired. She judges everyone who try to recover as she don’t see a point to life and believe that giving birth is evil and cruel. She don’t believe that happiness is real, but that makes me wonder, why is she still alive if she wants to die so badly? Some guy that was distressed made a thread about how he saved his wife moments prior from a suicide attempt she was in the middle of and wanted advice and opinions. She called him selfish and evil for saving his wife who he loves and care for from dying. She also stated that she didn’t care that others judge her for saying that. I think she also called him and others in the thread pro lifers and to get off the forum, that seems to be her favorite go-to line for anyone who isn’t actively trying to kill themselves.
I understand that she and some other members have autism, but you can’t go around and bully and push people over the edge like that. At some point someone has to say enough is enough and make it clear that this kind of behavior is not acceptable, maybe make them read the rules again for example, as they violate them frequently. There’s others on the site who struggle as well and who also have value, even if they don’t have autism. Does the admins want to suggest that people with autism are exempted from the rules and get special treatment? While others who suffer from a bipolar disorder or Ptsd as a couple of examples, are not? Maybe make that clear in the rules and FAQ section then if that truly is the case… because it seems to be. There’s so many others on the site who struggle immensely and who have autism, who are perfectly able to behave rationally and well, so why can’t she? The whole autism thing has to stop being used as an excuse and it’s weird how we are told that we have to adapt and change our behavior for the sake of her autism, but she does not have to change or improve for us. The solution to the whole issue is so easy and the situation is incredibly hypocritical. All they have to do is stop attacking people.
I’ve been a part of so many internet communities over the years and it’s always the same. The downfall is usually due to some tranny or an entitled girl with disabilities that is so heavily white knighted which causes a divide due to people being unable to question the odd things that start happening and favoritism. That’s just my personal experience so far with all the communities I’ve ever been in. So I can’t imagine what the future of SS will look like as both of these issues are now heavily present along side with outside efforts of trying to get the site shut down. Things have gotten so much worse these past couple of months. The forum has helped me a lot and ultimately made me avoid any new suicide attempts paradoxically ever since I signed up there. I’ve recovered from my suicidal ideations and so it is truly a shame to see what it has turned into and the path that it’s going down. I’m leaving SS now before it’s final downfall.
Glad to be here. I honestly never knew much of KF until I read the SS thread about it.
With all the conflict that is going on, you’d think that an admin would sit down with those involved to try and sort things out or that FC would squash the whole thing privately with the people she has an issue with, but seems like they don’t want to do neither. Instead, they keep the drama alive and do nothing to improve the situation. It’s dragging everyone on the site into it as they create public threads about it to attack the people who disagree with her, when really this all could have been avoided if they weren’t childish and vicious. They focus on how bad FC has it when she has never told her story so I don’t know how "horrible" her life and struggles are, and they completely ignore the suffering that others who are open and honest about their life go through as a result of her actions. I also feel as if things are increasingly becoming more toxic. It’s seems that it’s all about who has it worse, who whines more and who gets more attention. I truly hate it. It further disencourages people from recovering or sharing anything positive.
I agree that most people are supportive of your desicions in general on there. But I’m not going to sugar coat the flaws and issues of the site either. I don’t fully agree, it’s a equal mix of venting and discussions of methods. Most of the members would not have signed up on the site if it wasn’t for them wanting to research methods, let’s be honest. It’s a suicide forum, not a venting forum, primarely. It says it in the name.
People ignore FC, but it’s a massive issue when others who don’t question her abusive tendancies and don’t follow an ethical compass, go around making threads about those individuals who ignore her and who disagree with her opinion, go out of their way to openly attack and harass them, that it is no longer easy to just "ignore her" because other members are getting publically involved and start obsessing over them and stalking them.
Freedom of speech is great and I support it, but what I don’t support is straight out harassing people and going out of your way to have others attack them because they are expressing that their own opinions are not nihilistic. Making others leave the site just because they don’t agree with some of Funeral Cry’s extreme statements every once in a while, is fucking insane. It’s essentially telling people that only one view and opinion is accepted here, so you better keep your opinions to yourselfs if you don’t want to get banned or harassed or "simply leave the site" as you suggest, because there’s apparently only room for one view, which is a view that damages the image of the site both internally and externally.
I’ve heard about the Funercal Cry being a man theory a couple times before. I’m not sure if it’s Rain, I’ve heard that rumour too. They take their side and ignore the actions of others who break the rules in honor of FC. I guess there’s no way of really knowing.I honestly think Funeral Cry is an alt of Rainandsadness, the troon in command. I also believe Funeral Cry to be a man. I'm not quite sure why though. they're both equally insufferable
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Not really. Content will always be available to whoever wants it, no matter who wants it gone and no matter what their reason.
I'm very sorry about what happened to your son, but the Online Safety Bill would have not prevented the site or any of the speech in it. The speech in that bill (before it was gutted) would have chilled much speech on the internet (in the UK) and wouldn't had much effect on most sites outside of the UK.
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The way I see it, SS faces a similar problem as the original incel forums and similar support communities formed around an issue that can be recovered from. The people who get better (or get gf/neck themselves) leave, and as time goes on the users that are left behind get worse and worse until the community eats itself alive. I’m not really surprised that a place that began as a vent space has become the home for attention seekers and total nihilists spending years patting each other on the back on a suicide forum instead of, you know, going outside.
If it’s true that people are afraid to voice their own opinion on the forum without getting pushed into a pro-death position, then the forum isn’t conducive to free speech. Think of trans echo chambers: by suppressing dissenting opinions, I can wholly believe that someone can be convinced to act on their impulses by a single-voiced community — whether that is sex reassignment or ending their life.
All that said, legislating speech on the Internet sounds like an attractive solution but doing that also suppresses dissenting opinions, this time through the state. It might be harder to find censored information but it will not decrease the amount of misery people experience.
If it’s true that people are afraid to voice their own opinion on the forum without getting pushed into a pro-death position, then the forum isn’t conducive to free speech. Think of trans echo chambers: by suppressing dissenting opinions, I can wholly believe that someone can be convinced to act on their impulses by a single-voiced community — whether that is sex reassignment or ending their life.
All that said, legislating speech on the Internet sounds like an attractive solution but doing that also suppresses dissenting opinions, this time through the state. It might be harder to find censored information but it will not decrease the amount of misery people experience.
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And look at what the state is doing when this happens. Now, MAID in Canada is actually the government endorsing suicide.
Advocating government control of this invites the worst of both worlds. Open suicide discussion forums with people talking about their actual feelings get shut down, while the government literally coerces doctors into advocating euthanasia.
I'd much rather have the open discussion suicide forums than the government going around telling people to kill themselves instead of providing them with medical care (like in Canada)
It's very telling that the government would rather censor speech than to fix the problems that lead people wanting to commit suicide the first place. Leaving stuff like this up the government (like MAID) might sound like a good solution for those that want to die, but the government has a way of messing up the simplest of things. Instead of having information in front of you to make a decision, you have medical professionals advocating for you to do it and the government supporting it. I think that's way worse than finding the information on the internet.
Many people don't realize that most aren't going to go through with suicide, even if they have methods in front of them. Our bodies have a very strong survival instinct that pretty much drives us away from wanting to hurt or kill ourselves and it takes a lot to overcome that. So, the myth going around about people being "lured" into a site and being "encouraged" to commit suicide is laughably false and it shouldn't have been a story that should have been approved to print (looking at you NYT)
In contrast, you have the Canadian government actually encouraging and cohering people into committing suicide using their MAID program.
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Apparently the threat of getting sanctioned-suicide.org taken down was resolved. Still redirects to sanctioned-suicide.net. And they have a new mirror domain, sanctionedsuicide.site, which is also on Cloudflare.
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I feel SS is just going through what the farms went through a, couple of years ago (and more recently with the T1 stuff). What I find interesting from what I knew from my grandmother is that there are also a lot of elderly people on there who are just interested in the topic of choosing your own manner and time of death. I don't visit the site so I don't know what their visitor numbers vs. participants shows. Is there an insight into this at all?
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Too many people turn to limiting free speech on the internet as a solution, when jannies on a forum fail to do their jobs in keeping the forum free of bias and run in order.
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It's a sad situation all round, not only because people are so hopelessly distressed to find themselves in a place like SS in the first place, but also because people are cunts and love to be cunts. Some examples of cunts:
Tantacrul is a cunt, because his virtue signalling video was full of outright lies, half-truths, speculation and faux outrage. He whipped up a storm against a place that many people find comfort in. However, it's not such a safe space as it's made out to be, which I'll touch on later.
The people who want the site taken down are cunts. Fixthe26 or whoever. The ones who speak out most vocally are behaving irrationally, which yes I can understand your grief, but you don't come across as particularly sane. Taking down a site like SS might give you your 'win' but it's not gonna bring your loved ones back and it's only going to isolate distressed and suicidal people even more.
Rain and Sadness is a total cunt. Rules with a rod of iron and talks to people like cunts. Threatens them, twists what they say, and is so far up FuneralCry's arse, although I don't believe they're the same person at all.
Sometimes members are cunts. There was a member called motelrooms/hotelbeneathground who, just like FuneralCry, was allowed the free run of the forum to harass and bully anyone he felt like. He did eventually get banned - over FuneralCry ironically, because as we now know, she is untouchable and The One Who Must Be Protected At All Costs, "because she's autistic" don't you know. Incidentally, many of the posters are also autistic, mentally ill, neurodiverse etc yet none are afforded the same treatment.
FuneralCry is a cunt, despite her protestations of, and I quote "I am the kindest person on this forum" and "I am the most compassionate person here". She has written just shy of 18,000 posts now, all with the exact same wording. She starts by making low-key passive aggressive attacks on other users who she deems "pro-life", "delusional" (for being suicidal but not wanting to go through with it in case life gets better) and she polices the forum saying these people shouldn't be allowed on there. She says she envies people who die, people who have SN (yet doesn't get any herself, for some unknown reason). Many people have retaliated to her harassment and the situation always gets turned around to her being the victim and people getting banned and ostracised. That cunt Rain and Sadness has enabled this behaviour and now doesn't even know how to deal with it other than allowing it to continue and having anyone critical of FC put on the naughty step and labelling them as a bully clique.
Quite recently a person posted who had found his wife at death's door due to a suicide attempt. He saved her and he felt guilty on top a load of other emotions as it was obviously traumatic for him. FuneralCry's response? Well let's see what this kind and compassionate person had to say:
Original, post, I've not included his user name, as he deserves privacy.
FC's response:
Her post count is unbelievably high for someone who despises life itself so much.
All this said, I do believe this place has a right to exist and can be comforting for people. I don't believe legislation is the answer. People will still kill themselves and at startling rates due to the collapse of society that we are seeing happen in real time. Just let them be, and weed out anyone breaking the rules, basically.
If people could just stop being cunts to each other every day, that'd be a start. Taking away people's rights through legislation is tyranny. I don't want these people to die, but I certainly think they deserve a safe space to discuss what they're going through.
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Tantacrul is a cunt, because his virtue signalling video was full of outright lies, half-truths, speculation and faux outrage. He whipped up a storm against a place that many people find comfort in. However, it's not such a safe space as it's made out to be, which I'll touch on later.
The people who want the site taken down are cunts. Fixthe26 or whoever. The ones who speak out most vocally are behaving irrationally, which yes I can understand your grief, but you don't come across as particularly sane. Taking down a site like SS might give you your 'win' but it's not gonna bring your loved ones back and it's only going to isolate distressed and suicidal people even more.
Rain and Sadness is a total cunt. Rules with a rod of iron and talks to people like cunts. Threatens them, twists what they say, and is so far up FuneralCry's arse, although I don't believe they're the same person at all.
Sometimes members are cunts. There was a member called motelrooms/hotelbeneathground who, just like FuneralCry, was allowed the free run of the forum to harass and bully anyone he felt like. He did eventually get banned - over FuneralCry ironically, because as we now know, she is untouchable and The One Who Must Be Protected At All Costs, "because she's autistic" don't you know. Incidentally, many of the posters are also autistic, mentally ill, neurodiverse etc yet none are afforded the same treatment.
FuneralCry is a cunt, despite her protestations of, and I quote "I am the kindest person on this forum" and "I am the most compassionate person here". She has written just shy of 18,000 posts now, all with the exact same wording. She starts by making low-key passive aggressive attacks on other users who she deems "pro-life", "delusional" (for being suicidal but not wanting to go through with it in case life gets better) and she polices the forum saying these people shouldn't be allowed on there. She says she envies people who die, people who have SN (yet doesn't get any herself, for some unknown reason). Many people have retaliated to her harassment and the situation always gets turned around to her being the victim and people getting banned and ostracised. That cunt Rain and Sadness has enabled this behaviour and now doesn't even know how to deal with it other than allowing it to continue and having anyone critical of FC put on the naughty step and labelling them as a bully clique.
Quite recently a person posted who had found his wife at death's door due to a suicide attempt. He saved her and he felt guilty on top a load of other emotions as it was obviously traumatic for him. FuneralCry's response? Well let's see what this kind and compassionate person had to say:
Original, post, I've not included his user name, as he deserves privacy.
FC's response:
Her post count is unbelievably high for someone who despises life itself so much.
All this said, I do believe this place has a right to exist and can be comforting for people. I don't believe legislation is the answer. People will still kill themselves and at startling rates due to the collapse of society that we are seeing happen in real time. Just let them be, and weed out anyone breaking the rules, basically.
If people could just stop being cunts to each other every day, that'd be a start. Taking away people's rights through legislation is tyranny. I don't want these people to die, but I certainly think they deserve a safe space to discuss what they're going through.
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I will never get comfort from loosing my son. We have said all along we believe there should be a space for people to be able to talk about their feelings. However a place that openly gives methods, encourages suicide, giving step by step guides to the information should not be there. This isn’t about freedom of speech, as it stands if I did what the member did with Joe, in person I would be prosecuted, which is why it is now becoming law that what is illegal offline will be illegal online. The coroner who carried out the inquest stated that the members who had held discussions with Joe were breaking the UK law of assisting suicide.
SN has become a popular method, which is why the sale of it has become restricted.
Suicide should be spoken about we aren’t about stopping suicide because that isn’t going to happen, suicide will always exist, but accessing a forum where many act on impulse, or realise they don't want to die suicide rates may drop.