Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Baraadmirer]

he says he's fine he's just wearing a butt plug and the gravel feels really good on his prostate

I was tempted to give you Horrifying for this but I felt more Feels. Holy fuck, I don't think I've been in a situation where I've had a friend of a friend with a lack of filter like this.

 

[Tilapia]

I hit peak trans pretty early, when I realized that the diagnostic criteria for "gender dysphoria" in children amounted to 1. not fitting into gender stereotypes and 2. expressing a desire to be the opposite sex. And that I, as a child, fit that diagnostic criteria.

I would have been encouraged to take cross-sex hormones as a teenager and mutilate my genitals under the false promise of becoming the opposite sex, based on my childish notions of what "being a man" and "being a woman" entailed.

We are sending lambs to the slaughter.

 

[Fapcop]

There was never any one incident and I know my experience is far from unique. If you're a normal guy living in a deep blue state near a big far left city you basically cannot help but be "transphobic" these days. I hate to sound this basic but it's akin to having those glasses from They Live. Every storefront has a BLM or LGBTAIDSCIA+ Flag, people wear Che Guevara and the hammer and sickle shirts casually and openly and if you cross them then you can prepare for a hostile work environment and harassment without consequences, pure anarcho-tyranny. People in my workplace openly discuss far left politics daily like I'd talk about a fucking football game it's just so ingrained into the local culture that you cannot escape it.

So here I am in this environment just trying to be a professional and get paid and go about my life in peace and these viscerally disgusting mutilated mockeries of nature start popping up like weeds and you can't even talk about it because in the minds of most people there's no more debate to be had about it, the pronouns are just reality now. I tried to avoid being judgmental and I try to just stay in my lane but there comes a point where you just have to say fuck trannies somewhere to someone so here I am.

If I had to pick a breaking point though it was when I was forced into a rideshare situation with a tranny for a Dungeons and Dragons game a few years ago. We were doing a pizza run and I offered to drive and the tranny (who was a friend of a friend who I allowed into the game to be nice to said friend) had a super long and autistic order so I just had them come with me instead of looking like the asshole myself (He was also paying for himself instead of chipping in to the group order because they were a fatass who ordered more food than the rest of us combined)

Anyway we were in the car and there was some construction going on so there was gravel on the road and I'm driving over it and the dude just starts moaning and I'm thinking he's hurt so I ask him if he's okay and he says he's fine he's just wearing a butt plug and the gravel feels really good on his prostate. I have never felt more repulsed in my entire life. To my shame I didn't even pull over and kick him out I really didn't want to upset my friend who I had known since first grade (we were in our mid twenties at this point) so I just turned up the volume on my music and kept my eyes forward and when I got home I felt like the Marlboro Marine.
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Son… I hate to be real with you, but I gotta say this.

YOU ARE WHERE THE PROBLEM STARTS.

I know, I know… Your friend and you don’t want any problems and all that.

I feel ya.

I’m just saying: If you had stopped the car right then and there, and told him to get the f out, and gone on your merry way, he would have thought twice about sharing his buttplug degeneracy with a total stranger another time.

(And there are plenty of people who feel like you. Everyone is just scared of speaking up. For good reason.)

 

[realitysurf]

I'm only being slightly ironic when I call the tranny movement the Cult of Slaanesh. They're 100% a depraved sex cult focused on perversion and self mutilation, any examination of the way they behave shows they act the same as a Cult, from recruiting, to love bombing, isolating members from outside influences, pushing in group/out group thinking, breaking down and replacing morals and values, to harassment and vilification and puntive actions on those who step out of line and try to leave the Cult.

They remind me of Nurglings more than anything. Grandfather Nurgle loves all of his children... except for trannies.

 

[redcent]

There was never any one incident and I know my experience is far from unique. If you're a normal guy living in a deep blue state near a big far left city you basically cannot help but be "transphobic" these days. I hate to sound this basic but it's akin to having those glasses from They Live. Every storefront has a BLM or LGBTAIDSCIA+ Flag, people wear Che Guevara and the hammer and sickle shirts casually and openly and if you cross them then you can prepare for a hostile work environment and harassment without consequences, pure anarcho-tyranny. People in my workplace openly discuss far left politics daily like I'd talk about a fucking football game it's just so ingrained into the local culture that you cannot escape it.

As I spend a lot of time with escapees of communist countries this baffles me why anyone would be into this

 

[Szfynks]

As I spend a lot of time with escapees of communist countries this baffles me why anyone would be into this

Depends on the country and it depends on the individual experiences of a person. There are escapees and there are people who flourished. It wasn't uncommon for millions to experience real social advancement during cold war only to lose everything during the transition into capitalism. Im not talking about the Western commie LARPers, of course. For many people it was the era of stability and the first time the state gave a single fuck about them and provided education or health care. I'm really not surprised Ostalgia exists. There are reasons for that and the faillings of today's capitalism only fuel the need for change, and as Karl Marx wrote "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce", so instead of a real left-wing political force capable of changing anything, we get a bunch of pathetic LARPers whose sole purpose is to consoom (Che merch included) and cry on the Internet. It's kinda funny they how they want to criticize capitalism while being utterly addicted to it. I wish I could give a longer rant about these ultra individualists who LARP collectivists, but it's not the time nor place for that.

 

[Pyramid-Song]

When the TRA's started comparing Black women to trans women kek, how insane and genuinely retarded do you have to be to think biological women who aren't white are no longer women. It's an intellectually devoid argument, some of them go totally mask off too

 

[Procrastinhater]

Because it's really hard to bear the thought that all our society's top medical professionals have been conning mentally ill people for what's been years at this point.

Truth is often the hardest thing to face. Thats why people embrace comforting lies. To accept a painful truth takes strength, and our society reviles strength and coddles weakness.

 

[FinnSven]

As I spend a lot of time with escapees of communist countries this baffles me why anyone would be into this

It’s not that they think that communism as it has been in practice in reality is good, it is that they think that should they and their peers be the ones who lead revolution and following governance, it will be the promised utopia.

It’s more like a “reward in heaven” kind of cult or religious thinking.

While it is a nice idea, it just demonstrates the naïveté and immaturity of the advocates.

I suppose I hit peak trans fairly early on when I first heard about what were transvestites then insisting on being called “she”.

I think that was the first sign of things to come.
I didn’t realize how bad it could get until I started encountering people who were insisting that one couldn’t judge someone gender just by how they present.
The idea that calling a plainly obvious man or woman he or she was somehow offensive baffled me.

Not just being like a tiny faux pas, like when one mistook a long haired man for a woman from behind, it was offensive like one had gone into a synagogue wearing an SS uniform asking for a bacon sandwich, without any shred of humor.

My stepdaughter was the biggest driving force for me really finding it ridiculous though, she was the first one to tell me that biological sex is irrelevant, that Romans worshipped trans people and trans women never sexually assaulted women, but trans people were being killed daily in rural America.

It is a jehovas witness level of cult propaganda.

 

[The bird with tourettes]

Many things made me hit peak trans. This crap in schools and pushing it on minors, the cult like behavior the list goes on. Besides those obvious major two a personal one that made me hit peak and sure other kiwis have noticed is the liberal use (no pun intended) of the word "Genocide". The killing fields in Cambodia or the Hutus killing hundreds of thousands of Tutsi in Rwanda. All those horrors some people have gone through and because you can't use a fucking bathroom you claim to be on that same level? Because we question about you chopping your dick off we are committing "cultural genocide "? I thought honestly it was a joke that Kiwis where just making at first. "Trannys couldn't possibly be that over dramatic right?" I thought. Oh how naïve I was to think they wouldn't stoop to that level to get what they want.

I'm just tired of it all Tired of these people claiming to be tolerant and peace loving and all that shit. Yet you say anything that isn't aligned with there ideals you're a horrible human who needs to be doxed and have your life ruined. Also Tired of people who should know better supporting this garbage.

I also feel a lot of guilt. I should have spoken out more about this trans shit instead of keeping my mouth shut until it got this bad. I doubt my lonely voice could have done much but I saw this storm coming but I just assumed it be a light drizzle and not a fucking hurricane. The floodgates are open and I personally don't think it will ever truly stop even with all the backlash though I hope beyond hope I'm wrong.

 

[doodoocaca]

I'm only being slightly ironic when I call the tranny movement the Cult of Slaanesh. They're 100% a depraved sex cult focused on perversion and self mutilation, any examination of the way they behave shows they act the same as a Cult, from recruiting, to love bombing, isolating members from outside influences, pushing in group/out group thinking, breaking down and replacing morals and values, to harassment and vilification and puntive actions on those who step out of line and try to leave the Cult.

Call it what it is, the the troons trying to fuck* Slaneesh into existence.

*They mostly fuck other troons or toys, though. Or chatfuck onehanded on discord.

It will never cease to amuse me how they feel the need to overshare their degeneracy to everyone.

Hell, I have done some idecent acts of furfaggotry and would never ever think it is apropriate to share that casually and in detail.

They've been told it's 'good'. Sexual liberation's natural conclusion is expecting to be lauded for discussing sex toy usage and constant "coomer brained" sexualization of day to day life.

 

[Super Guido]

A combination of noticing how these weirdos get special treatment and realizing that I don't feel like a woman - I just AM a woman. From there, the cognitive dissonance was such that I realized no, TW are not W.

 

[Ted Kaczynski]

My personal experience is different to many here. I am a very faithful person and I came to Jesus when I was 16. Yaddah yaddah, you don’t want to hear me blab. During the time I was converting to Christianity as a teenager working at Walmart, there was this ftm tranny that I was friends with. I was naive and honestly didn’t realize she was a troon until she cut her tits off. Big eye opener. Well I didn’t want to keep being around her so I started to only participate in small talk and I never went out of my way to approach her. One day I start wearing a cross and reading my bible in the break room. she comes in for her break and sees me reading, asks what it is, and when I tell her, she starts YELLING, as in full on raising her voice screaming that I’m an evil awful person. Then she starts crying and fucks off.

At that point I knew that trannies were more than just harmless spergs, but rather dangerous narcissists with trauma.

My second experience was working at target when I was 18. I had to deal with a MTF tranny, this guy was balding, skinny, and tall, a true caricature. He was immediately hostile to me since I would wear lots of Jesus paraphernalia. Now I was and still am a big guy (built not fat), and you could guess that I was conservative based on my haircut and the clothes i wore, etc. so this fucker takes it upon himself to convert me to leftism, which by no one’s surprise, utterly fails.
I had to work with this dumbass for a year in the same department with him bringing up his equality belief every 5 seconds and yammering about being trans. It never stopped. I cannot exaggerate how annoying this guy was.
I ended up leaving that job without any major incident other than that guy’s weird zealot archetype being an annoyance.

 

[Aunt Carol]

One day I start wearing a cross and reading my bible in the break room. she comes in for her break and sees me reading, asks what it is, and when I tell her, she starts YELLING, as in full on raising her voice screaming that I’m an evil awful person. Then she starts crying and fucks off.
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I ended up leaving that job without any major incident other than that guy’s weird zealot archetype being an annoyance.

Coming from the other direction as you, this highlights the problem with the trans lobby.

The ideology acts in the same way as a religion: a new one, a growing one with unfixed dogma, one with body-focused rituals and one with heavy State backing.

All those atheists who used to bitch about living in a Christian country, or the Christians who complained at the same time about being persecuted by Western society--it's maddening that they can't see that this is what it looks like when a religious/philosophical belief has the support of the government to quash heresy.

Gender is a belief system, not a fact. It's not officially a religion, but that's a dodge like how you can get the fortified wine "Fireball" at the grocery store because it's acktually wine and not liquor. Still gets you drunk, still unverifiable beliefs founded on personal revelation.

But the same people who used to work for freedom of religion, freedom from religion, are blindly accepting of troons.

 

[doodoocaca]

Thanks for pointing out Gender is the sanctioned Woke Imperial Cult, I almost had a 100% good day today.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Gender is a belief system, not a fact. It's not officially a religion, but that's a dodge like how you can get the fortified wine "Fireball" at the grocery store because it's acktually wine and not liquor. Still gets you drunk, still unverifiable beliefs founded on personal revelation.

But the same people who used to work for freedom of religion, freedom from religion, are blindly accepting of troons.

I don't think it's truly possible to be irreligious. People will always cling onto some kind of dogma, worship something they perceive to be greater than themselves.

Society may have gotten more "secular," but if anything, people have become more religious, more superstitious, more idolatrous than ever.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Society may have gotten more "secular," but if anything, people have become more religious, more superstitious, more idolatrous than ever.

Word, but it's frightening that the local government is so gung-ho at enforcing the changing tenets of a very new, years-old spiritual belief system. Just because gender isn't called a religion suddenly means that all those legal protections from someone else's beliefs can be ignored.

A state enforcing its official religion is not good. Even if it's your religion; look at how many denominations of Christianity there are, and think of the human hierarchy of career bureaucrats and jobsworths who would shrug and keep cashing a paycheck. I dunno, man, this part needs a religious historian and I just hate the troon-industrial complex.

 

[AnOminous]

At that point I knew that trannies were more than just harmless spergs, but rather dangerous narcissists with trauma.

Trannies claim to be massively persecuted, but the instant they don't have an enemy, they go and harass someone until they create one. Sort of like a cult. They need an external enemy to direct the hostility of their members outwards.

If they were genuinely concerned that they were going to be murdered at any moment, they wouldn't go out of their way to piss off all of normal society.

 

[Wendigo Whorehouse]

For me, it was the realization that being trans has essentially become the ultimate Get Out of Jail Free card when it comes to being absolute degenerate creeps to women. These freaks can say and do some of the most misogynistic shit to women and if these women don't just quietly take it, then THEY'RE the ones who get backlash. Also not to mention the fact that every slight against them is considered an act of violence and bigotry. Don't want to suck troon dick or see them exposing themselves in your locker room? You are literally MURDERING transwomen in the streets!

I don't really consider myself a feminist, but I actually believe that, if there's going to be anything that sets back any progress the women's rights movement made, it's going to be TRAs.

 

[Fathomless Eminence]

I was tempted to give you Horrifying for this but I felt more Feels. Holy fuck, I don't think I've been in a situation where I've had a friend of a friend with a lack of filter like this.

It was definitely a surreal experience, it did not come entirely out of left field however. Basically this person had an equally long friendship with my friend and when he got into high school he fell into the furry to troon pipeline and it was getting really bad, the situation was essentially "Hey man this guy might blow his brains out if he can't have some social contact I know he's really weird but it would mean a lot to me." I'd been a fringe internet guy (we both kind of were) for years by this point so I was fairly well acclimated to the kinds of degeneracy that people can get up to. If I could describe the feeling I would associate it with it was like when you see your local grocery store getting robbed on the news: "Woah I totally shop there" combined with "Jesus Tapdancing Christ this is uncomfortable".

When the troon showed up to my place he was wearing stained sweatpants, an equally stained hoodie and a bright pink dog collar that said "Princess" on it so I made it clear to my friend that this was going to be like three game nights tops and after the incident it ended up just being the one and he completely understood. We're still buddies to this day a friendship lasting well over 20 years by now great guy who just has a heart that's just a bit too big sometimes.