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lol, now that the khokhols are getting their shit pushed in fighting for Bakhmut, it suddenly is no valuable, when back in september is was regarded as an strategically important city
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lol, now that the khokhols are getting their shit pushed in fighting for Bakhmut, it suddenly is no valuable, when back in september is was regarded as an strategically important city
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Also you are completely wrong about Soviet SSRs not having right to secede as it is part of their constitutions. While the consequences would have likely been similar to Hungary or Prague if they did it was still an option open to them further codified in several updates of their constitution.
"Constitutionally, the Soviet Union was a federation. In accordance with provisions present in its Constitution (versions adopted in 1924, 1936 and 1977), each republic retained the right to secede from the USSR. Throughout the Cold War, this right was widely considered to be meaningless; however, the corresponding Article 72 of the 1977 Constitution was used in December 1991 to effectively dissolve the Soviet Union, when Russia, Ukraine, and Belarusseceded from the Union. Although the Union was created under an initial ideological appearance of forming a supranational union, it never de factofunctioned as one; an example of the ambiguity is that the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in the 1930s officially had its own foreign minister, but that office did not exercise any true sovereignty apart from that of the union. The Constitution of the Soviet Union in its various iterations defined the union as a federation with the right of the republics to secede.[13]: 71, 483 [14]"
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That's not what I said, though.
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The actual Russian casualty figures are about 10K KIA and 50K WIA but of that 50K most are minor injuries with only about 30K of them requiring any hospitalization behind lines at all and less than 10K of that being serious enough that will require long term treatment of multiple years. . My source is information that is not public and able for me to state legally, so I will try to give some others that support it.
Here is Russian MOD admitting to 5937 KIA in September. From the first line: "MOSCOW, September 21 - RIA Novosti. Russia's losses during the special military operation in Ukraine amounted to 5,937 people, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on the Russia 24 TV channel."
The BBC's Russian language site also quietly admits the 10K figure is likely and is from last December. This is first paragraph translated from that: "Based on open sources, the BBC managed to establish the names of more than 10 thousand Russian soldiers who died in the war in Ukraine. Among them - more than 400 mobilized. Since the first day of the war, the BBC Russian Service has been maintaining a list of casualties of Russian servicemen in Ukraine together with the Mediazona publication (recognized in Russia as a “foreign media agent”) and a team of volunteers. As of December 9, we were able to confirm information about 10,002 dead soldiers and officers."
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The sperging about is or is Ukraine not a real country is couunter productive. Both for the discussion in this thread and for this war somehow ending. Russia is losing a shit ton of its sons in a country that does not exist. Quite a few Ukrainians are also dying for this alleged fake country.
At some point Russia will have to accept Ukrainian Statehood is a thing.
At some point Russia will have to accept Ukrainian Statehood is a thing.
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Right you are, comrade.
Quite the opposite. Ukraine is loosing hundreds of men every week in Bakhmut alone. Their casualties are so bad there, they are introduced conscription for every wsingle male between 20-55 regardless of their physical, social or mental status. They already outnumbered Russia at the beginning,so why need anymore than they already have?
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I am confused then because you linked a video of Putin talking about how an SSR could break away from Soviet Union with words implying that "There was literally no mechanism for that in USSR." So were you agreeing that SSRs could secede and being sarcastic or did you not know that an SSR could constitutionally remove itself from the Soviet Union? The first line of that Putin interview is "when the Soviet Union was created, the right to leave the union was spelled out in the agreement."
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So in other words, Western wunderwaffen can't actually be deployed in combat against anyone with a big boy military because we can't risk them being captured. They can only be used against poor goat farmers.
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"AMERICAN EQUIPMENT IS THE BEST*!"
*we've only ever tested it on literally 60+ year old rusted hulks and illiterate goat fuckers
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I'm not sure what part of the word "mechanism" is confusing. Lets use an irl comparison. You have a right to leave the EU(though they will attempt to destroy your country with fines, international torts commited against you, etc), and there is a clearly defined mechanism to do so. USSR had a right for its states to leave, but no method to do so. That's why all the member states that didn't want to be there either had to rebel (Poland, Baltic states) or leave when the Union collapsed (Ukraine).
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The RF published instructions and they broadcast them over their airwaves and online. How practical they are IRL I have no idea, but Ukraine using barrier troops, aka blocking units, is very revealing, as it signals a large number of Ukrainians are surrendering/deserting.
When your troops are this demoralized, there is a reason for it, and dying for a fake country is not very appealing to most.
Soldiers and officers of the armed forces of Ukraine, your further resistance is useless. Your command betrayed you, throwing you into battle with an enemy many times superior in strength to you.
Choose life - stop resisting and surrender to Russian troops. Wait a moment, remember that in order to fulfill your intentions, you may have to eliminate those who do not allow you to control your own destiny. This is exclusively your male decision, and it will save your life! The Russian side guarantees your security and provision with the necessary funds. After the end of hostilities, you can return to your families. Save your life - surrender!
If you have means of communication, try to contact Russian military personnel, warn of your intention to surrender, indicate the number of people, incl. the number and condition of the wounded, the place and time of the planned exit to the Russian positions.
If it is not possible to establish contact, make an exit towards the positions marked with Russian flags;
When meeting with Russian troops, implicitly comply with the following conditions:
be sure to remove small arms behind your back, with the barrel down, first unfasten the magazine;
when approaching the positions of Russian troops, raise your hands up, hold any white cloth, scarf, leaflet in your hands;
in case of an unexpected meeting with Russian servicemen, lie down on the ground, put your hands behind your head, and wait for detection. State your intentions to surrender, strictly follow further instructions.
Remember! The Russian military is aware of all the previously listed requirements and will regard these actions as peaceful intentions. Follow these requirements and save your life! Bring the end of hostilities closer!
It's up to you to stop this hell! Choose life!
Choose life - stop resisting and surrender to Russian troops. Wait a moment, remember that in order to fulfill your intentions, you may have to eliminate those who do not allow you to control your own destiny. This is exclusively your male decision, and it will save your life! The Russian side guarantees your security and provision with the necessary funds. After the end of hostilities, you can return to your families. Save your life - surrender!
If you have means of communication, try to contact Russian military personnel, warn of your intention to surrender, indicate the number of people, incl. the number and condition of the wounded, the place and time of the planned exit to the Russian positions.
If it is not possible to establish contact, make an exit towards the positions marked with Russian flags;
When meeting with Russian troops, implicitly comply with the following conditions:
be sure to remove small arms behind your back, with the barrel down, first unfasten the magazine;
when approaching the positions of Russian troops, raise your hands up, hold any white cloth, scarf, leaflet in your hands;
in case of an unexpected meeting with Russian servicemen, lie down on the ground, put your hands behind your head, and wait for detection. State your intentions to surrender, strictly follow further instructions.
Remember! The Russian military is aware of all the previously listed requirements and will regard these actions as peaceful intentions. Follow these requirements and save your life! Bring the end of hostilities closer!
It's up to you to stop this hell! Choose life!
For civilians
Citizens of Ukraine located in the territories controlled by the armed forces of Ukraine, in order to preserve your life and health as part of the Special Military Operation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, we recommend that you observe and comply with the following requirements:
do not trust information received from the Ukrainian media, cases have recently become more frequent spreading false information in order to carry out provocations and increase casualties among the civilian population;
read the text of the Geneva Convention on the Protection of Civilian Persons in the Course of Hostilities, the Russian side observes this agreement and monitors its implementation;
limit your movements, do not go far from your place of residence or work, in no case go out into the street without an identity card;
learn how to provide first aid in order to immediately take action at a critical moment and save the lives of yourself and your loved ones;
do not approach the windows during active hostilities, in case of artillery shelling, check in advance the suitability of the basements in your or a neighboring house;
avoid state bomb shelters so as not to be taken hostage by armed gangs and nationalists who will use you as a “human shield” or an item for bargaining;
try to limit communication with armed people as much as possible, do not argue or quarrel with them;
do not wear camouflage clothing and overalls with any symbols;
do not interfere with the advance of Russian troops, do not inform Ukrainian military personnel about the movements of military equipment and personnel of the RF Armed Forces, otherwise, according to the Geneva Convention on the Protection of Civilian Population, you will be equated with combatants and deprived of the exclusive right to protection from Russian forces;
in case of injury or deterioration of health, contact the Russian military, they are instructed and will be obliged to provide you with the necessary medical assistance.
After taking control of a settlement by Russian troops, wear white armbands on your left shoulder when you go outside, and also mark your vehicle with white handkerchiefs on mirrors.
Compliance with these rules is the key to maintaining your health and life!
do not trust information received from the Ukrainian media, cases have recently become more frequent spreading false information in order to carry out provocations and increase casualties among the civilian population;
read the text of the Geneva Convention on the Protection of Civilian Persons in the Course of Hostilities, the Russian side observes this agreement and monitors its implementation;
limit your movements, do not go far from your place of residence or work, in no case go out into the street without an identity card;
learn how to provide first aid in order to immediately take action at a critical moment and save the lives of yourself and your loved ones;
do not approach the windows during active hostilities, in case of artillery shelling, check in advance the suitability of the basements in your or a neighboring house;
avoid state bomb shelters so as not to be taken hostage by armed gangs and nationalists who will use you as a “human shield” or an item for bargaining;
try to limit communication with armed people as much as possible, do not argue or quarrel with them;
do not wear camouflage clothing and overalls with any symbols;
do not interfere with the advance of Russian troops, do not inform Ukrainian military personnel about the movements of military equipment and personnel of the RF Armed Forces, otherwise, according to the Geneva Convention on the Protection of Civilian Population, you will be equated with combatants and deprived of the exclusive right to protection from Russian forces;
in case of injury or deterioration of health, contact the Russian military, they are instructed and will be obliged to provide you with the necessary medical assistance.
After taking control of a settlement by Russian troops, wear white armbands on your left shoulder when you go outside, and also mark your vehicle with white handkerchiefs on mirrors.
Compliance with these rules is the key to maintaining your health and life!
Mercs are just told to go home
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are sending regards to still alive foreigners fighting on the side of Ukrainian forces. What’s the reason for you? Money? I'm going to tell you a secret! They won't help to come back home. You'll be destroyed by Russians or Ukrainians in any case. One more secret: you are an enemy for both. Don't get involved in family squabbles. You are a stranger here. It's not Africa and the Middle East. People who fight here are descendants of those who stopped the most powerful empires. You'll be killed. You are not immortal and it’s not a computer game. You have only one life. In a case of injury nobody will help you. You'll die in agony. The only solution is to get out of here. Run without doubt. With any excuse. Stay away from us. Otherwise you will not escape the death sentence. Mercenaries who already made this choice are alive now. Others were killed by Russian weapon. Don't be in a hurry to be in a coffin.
Every day, every hour, every second.
Every day, every hour, every second.
That nigger is a human, Turkroaches are vermin.View attachment 4415804
Toxoplasma poisoning is one hell of a drug. Both sides use niggers and sandniggers as frontline troopers. I just hope Russia loses though.
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When Putin says mechanism his is referring to a system of rules to do so not a method of doing it. Specifically he is talking about the addition of Crimea to Ukraine by that drunk pig Khrushchev and how that when Ukraine broke away after 1991 that the Crimea should have been returned to it. Mainly Putin was inferring that the lack of detailed procedures in the process caused problems. In fact in 1991 the Soviet Union dissolved through the very same undefined process. What happened was individual SSR's governments voted to withdraw from the Declaration and Treaty on the Formation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Just because a set of minute rules that break down every little detail about how a thing will work do not exist does not mean it isn't possible.
On the side note of leaving Soviet control Josep Tito also proved that any strong state could easily break away or have nothing to do executively with the Soviet Union while still being part of the Eastern Block sphere when he withdrew from the Cominform in 1948, and this was during the height of Stalin's power. The reason previous attempts to leave before/after Tito succeeded at it failed is they were largely born out of factionalism and lacked the national support to actually move away from Soviet power. Urbanite/student protests do not constituted legitimate attempts to leave but the bitching of most entitled elements of society. Tito was a boss who had respect of majority of his people and proved it was possible. While Yugoslavia was not an SSR neither was Poland like you mentioned so I still think it is good enough to illustrate the principle that leaving Soviet central control was possible.
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This gave me feels...
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I wish I WOULD NOT live there, nor do I care about your rotten nation too much. Send gibs and do NATO, and the rest is gossip lmao. In exchange you get to keep a military base here and fly AWACS to spy on the vatniklands nearby, and your soldiers get to impregnate non-obese, non-mutt pussy for cheap.
Gud deal yes?
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"You think of us as scum, you call us vermin? Then like vermin we shall fight, with tooth and claw until even the mightiest of enemies is overpowered. We shall scour their lands clean, and leave nothing that can be used against man - for vermin always have the last word."
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This is real nigger tier thinking:
When even American joggers make a point of avoiding your shithole, that says a lot.
Sure thing. Sarin is literally roach spray.
Speaking of Butthurt Belters, Georgia wants to join the chat:
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When you deal with vatniks, there is no other way but to abandon all IQ and morals and sink to their level, in order to perform the traditional mud slinging dance
Can't wait for the new 2.2B package and LONG RANGE MISSILES to send as presents to Russia.
Thank you America! Send MORE. Send SOON. Screw F16s. Send massive stockpile of long range missiles.
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The US military is strongly opposed to this clusterfuck; that's why the khokhols and other butthurt belters are getting outdated, obsolete and nerfed materiel. A military coup in DC is highly likely if the neocons demand the US declare war (and nukes) against Russia.
Your supply of BBC cuck porn will be unaffected, though.
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