Pressing X to doubt. The Ukraine-Russia conflict is one of the most boring wars ever. It's David against Goliath exept David is a retard that happens to constantly get bailed out by his relatives. The most exciting aspect of it is third parties wanting to get involved without officially being involved. That and betting on which round of sanctions we would reach by the end of the year!
Well that's if you're not actively under attack. If lets say for instance your unit is holding up in a village or something and Russia is clearing door to door as is common in urban warfare it wouldn't be all that horribly difficult. Biggest risk would be that they just shoot you on sight not realizing that you're trying to surrender. I've also heard of people playing dead before to do it.
You'd realize if you looked at the link that the Ukrainian SSR was the evolution of the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, which being founded in 1917 predated what the Germans tried to do in 1918. Furthermore to be a legitimate state you have to have a functional government that provides basic services over the majority of the territory it claims to occupy. Neither the false state that only existed thanks to the German military or any of the other factions competing for control of the region meet the definition of a state that occupied the current borders of Ukraine. There was this thing called the Ukrainian War of Independence going on so no there was no German state according to the definition of a state being that hostilities did not end until 1921 and no party ever had total control of territory it claimed.
Now all we need is the right wing grifters to dish out some pro Russia merch.
Congrats. That makes your 1917 point invalid, and mine valid.
There was literally no mechanism for that in USSR.
German Ukraine, though, had both rights, legislative body, some form of a military, ect. It was a genuine state of Ukraine.
Nigga this is exactly why I will ally with the US to fuck Russia up, eternal struggle for power and survival.
Aaaaand we are back at muh Tiny Unpatriotic War and seething about Le Ebil Natzees
Honestly Russians smashing their way into Benelux countries would be an incredible thing to watch. Hell, I WOULD volunteer, sacrificing my life for killing and eating a lizardfolk or Gobohomoo van der Kalergi faggot.
A few weeks ago Ukraine had lost 30K troops and the Russians 150K.
Vkrainians are so brave fighting
So fix things, cowardly Amerifat lmao
I wonder if the people who think it's legitimate for Israel to attack Syria due to Hamas getting weapons through there think it's legitimate for Russia to sink this ship. (I don't actually wonder this.)
It's different, though, because God said Israel can do it.
I wish you lived here and understood how completely fucked America is. We are not the same nation who defeated the Soviets. You ally with us and you are going to end up being sacrificed or paying for it when we lose.
It was not a legitimate state is was a puppet state of Germany. The German state aka Hetmanate was a joke; while it may have concluded a treaty with the soviets it never had sovereignty over its territory which was actively still embroiled in a civil war. The entire time it existed there was open rebellion within its borders and war still going on between factions of UPR under Petliura who was never properly overthrown and still in open rebellion, green armies in south led by Terpylo, and the Makhnovshchina in the South/East who had almost 1/3 of entire country in their control. So declaring German Ukraine a legitimate state would be like one national block (central powers of WW1) recognizing a faction in a civil war because it benefited them. If the central powers won WW1 then yes Germans would have had time to pacify the other factions and make it a legitimate state but they never did and there was still an active civil war going on in Ukraine until 1921.
