Is leftism becoming unpopular?

[ToroidalBoat]

Even if leftism is becoming unpopular, the woke cult would likely lie and claim it's the "alt-right" that's growing more unpopular.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Hopefully that'll backfire, because those people are conservative as fuck. The type who would gladly lynch gays if they thought they could get away with it.

tho, because importing illegals was how California switched from red to hard blue.

It’s not going to backfire. They know Democrats are the party of gibs, antiwhite hatred, preferential treatment, etc. When Republicans tried to buy off blacks with Da Platinum Plan n sheeeit in 2020, it only brought a few hundred thousand over. They attempted to bribe niggers and it failed. Aside from faggots, nobody is going to change their mind about who to vote for because of fags.

And it wasn’t just California that turned blue. New Mexico, Colorado, and Virginia all turned blue within a generation thanks to demographic changes. On deck is Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona.

 

[gang weeder]

Rather than them being unpopular, it's more like they are lulled into inactivity and have become sleepers. Yes, I know there's cope aplenty, but for the regular foot soldiers? They're in power, there's no sense of impending doom and imminent extinction, so they tune out. Maybe they'll even back off some of the more extreme tenants, but there's no reason to believe they won't ramp it up to 140% again during more politically sensitive times.

I wouldn't get unless you can show that (1) they've lost the ability to rally the troops long term, (2) anyone they still have a hold on is not in any kind of mission critical bottleneck role, and (3) not even fortification can cover up the lack of enthusiasm.

I agree with this. First off, it's hard to truly judge how "popular" wokeshit is because of how much it's astroturfed + massive preference falsification. What's more important than its popularity is its power, and it still has power. If the '24 election seems at all troublesome for those in power, they'll bring back the hysteria and all the wokeshit will ramp up again. It doesn't really matter if most normal people hate the ideology when they'll lose their job for daring to say so + Antifa and friends are literally paid by the government to go around smashing shit up as a reminder of who's in charge.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

It won't really get fixed until states start pulling the plug on the mad Marxists in the universities. Until then, young people will have to go through indoctgrination camp that will take several years to wear off if at all afterwards.

These people have nothing to do with Marxism. Marxism is economic. All these tranny breadtubers make videos exclusively and solely on minority issues, like trans rites, even racial black nationalism, even defending marauding multinational transnational mega corporations like amazon. Real Marxists understand that being gay is a mental sickness, as Stalin in the USSR put gays in death camps; they want to destroy these LGBT hyper tyranny imposed on us by amazon and black rock.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

These people have nothing to do with Marxism. Marxism is economic. All these tranny breadtubers make videos exclusively and solely on minority issues, like trans rites, even racial black nationalism, even defending marauding multinational transnational mega corporations like amazon. Real Marxists understand that being gay is a mental sickness, as Stalin in the USSR put gays in death camps; they want to destroy these LGBT hyper tyranny imposed on us by amazon and black rock.

Cultural Marxism, but specifying cultural would break the alliteration that "Mad Marxists" has.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Cultural Marxism, but specifying cultural would break the alliteration that "Mad Marxists" has.

Cultural marxism is extending class warfare to other aspects of human existence, like race, gender, sexuality. A continuous battle between those perceived to be in power, and the supposed underdogs.

Mainly because the frankfurt school was frustrated that developed countries do not organically have communist revolutions, because such things do not happen unless the proletariat has legitimate grievances against those in power, therefore if life is relatively good and the standard of living is good, and the capitalist class actually pays attention to what the working class wants, nothing happens.

Though at the same time, the frankfurt school also recognized at some level that identity politics (beyond pure economic class warfare) only serves to turn society into a caricature of a capitalist society, not help push a communist revolution along, because it divides the working class and prevents them from being able to unionize, demand better wages from their employers, or even outright kill their employers.

They pushed identity politics as a form of accelerationism, intentionally making a capitalist society corrupt so that a communist revolution would overthrow it. Unfortunately for the communists, the average western leftist is too dumb to recognize this, they legitimately see faggotry, racial conflict, and troons as being part of the communist revolution.

The end result is that you have a rich elite that professes marxist beliefs, and a proletariat who espouses nationalistic beliefs, a proletariat who couldn't give a rats ass about communist ideals, they only want life to improve and for their nation's sovereignty to be protected.

The only consolation is that communism is fucking DOA in America, though lots of people are going to get hurt in the process.

Real Marxists understand that being gay is a mental sickness, as Stalin in the USSR put gays in death camps; they want to destroy these LGBT hyper tyranny imposed on us by amazon and black rock.

There was actually a sexual revolution in the Soviet Union when the communists took over, the Bolsheviks were every bit as socially liberal as western leftists are now, which only makes their insistence that the Soviet Union was "not real communism," or "right wing" even more hilarious.

It was a disaster, and the only reason why Stalin was able to put a stop to it was because everyone was just as sick of it as he was. It wasn't him being a meanie bigot right winger, it was him being pragmatic.

 

[ChrisIsGay]

No. The current demographic trend in America heavily favors the left.

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

Left wing is not in decline, we are still at it's height. The only time you can claim otherwise is if you can go onto mainstream social media and state facts about transexuals. When you feel safe to express non-left wing ideas.

 

[toad of the depths]

Leftism is reaching its teleological endpoint of individualism maxing and the ultimate atomized society. Once this current mode of civilization collapses, leftism as we understand it from the french revolution will collapse and be viewed as a historical abberation, in my opinion.

No. The current demographic trend in America heavily favors the left.

The current demographics in america favor failed state cartel strongman localism, and as the federal government contracts and buckles under the burden of infinity swarthoids you will see it emerge. This mode of existence is pre-modern and thusly cannot be adequately described with ideological theorycel terminology.

 

[LillWeeb]

I think some aspects of the left are starting to collapse among the populace for example the left doesn't really fight for Islam anymore and it seems like BLM after 2020 starting to lose steam the recent incidents fail to generate Mass protesting or anything. (but that could also be due to on the powers that be not needing BLM right now however)
we won't know if the left is collapsing until it's a few years after and you look back in retrospect since you can't really tell right now.
I have a hypothesis that the global elite are trying to find a off-ramp to get rid of troon's because because I think they're starting to realize that instead of having this genderless slave class with no sex drive whatsoever that would be only dedicated to their jobs I think they are starting to realize that all they are creating is a bunch of parasites that don't work and are lazy and can't do simple task if you're trying to create a eunuch slave infertile worker ant race those are the complete opposite of the traits you want. Not sure what transhumanism monstrosity the WEF is planning next, but with troons they might be going back to the drawing board.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

There doesn't seem to be any real benefit to liberalism now.

People call the conservatives dinosaurs who "dun contribyte to teh cultuar", but what does the left do these days? Cause endless controversy/anger/hostility towards anyone who doesn't go along with their ideology? And what do they create these days? Necromanced pop culture icons with no staying power with terrible messages that are fucking depressing as heck?

Their focus on Green Energy is also fucking people over economically, and freedom wise. People who willingly vote for that shit at this point are fucked in the head.

I honestly instinctively that even if this goes on for a long time, they wouldn't truly win in the end because their ideology is too unstable and restrictive, and the stress that it causes on people will turn them away from it over time. Like, I really don't get any true benefit aside from utopian ideals and partisan slogans that have no substance to them.

I do see people more comfortably rejecting them nowadays, and even on twitter I don't see quite as much random political shit being spewed like I used to, even from users I know are left leaning. That's just my experience though, may not mean anything.

 

[Anonitolia]

Not sure what transhumanism monstrosity the WEF is planning next, but with troons they might be going back to the drawing board.

if we're lucky, it'll be catgirls. If we're not, it'll be actual robot-people with either cybernetic enhancements or a robot body and human brain. Both are probably at least a generation or two away though, unfortunately

I really don't get any true benefit aside from utopian ideals and partisan slogans that have no substance to them.

to be fair, isn't that enough for some people? Even if it's unhealthy, clinging to utopian ideals might give some people enough drive to keep doing shit for the cause and partisan slogans mean they don't have to think too hard while doing it. It's like a weird form of escapism for the morally-righteous. Same reason they see no problem inserting it into media where it doesn't belong- in their heads, activism and video games fulfill the same purpose of "getting something done (but not really) to feel good about myself".

the left doesn't really fight for Islam anymore

also worth noting that since Iraq is over muslims are no longer the "poor oppressed minority" that we should be listening to instead of bombing the shit out of; focus has shifted to China, and as a result that stupid AAPI movement thing has cropped up. I hesitate to explicitly say it's asian-oriented, as I think it's just a failed mish-mash of every other minority they forgot to defend a decade ago (Polynesian-Americans and Chinese-Americans have basically nothing to do with each other save for existing in the same sea and yet people still lump them together for this movement, it's so transparently lazy and rude), though I've personally seen a much stronger push for acceptance of Chinese/Korean/Japanese in particular from the movement and- whaddya know- a lot of our caution has been increasingly directed at China/North Korea since shortly before the movement began.

 

[AlixHenriolsCousin]

No. The current demographic trend in America heavily favors the left.

Depends on what you mean with Left. I think many things that Gen Z'ers see as normal are actually normal and/or apolitical now, even if they used to be a left-wing topic. Like every industrialised country has a welfare state since WWII and almost no one under 30 hates gay people or is racist anymore.

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

As Clown World devolves to be more and more insane, people who used to be considered left-leaning (such as myself) will come to be considered right-wing without even having to change their opinions. The social climate might not get any less liberal, but sane critical thinkers will dig in their heels and stay where they are as the center shifts to the left of them. Yesterday's moderate liberals are tomorrow's conservative allies. It won't be the first time that happened and it won't be the last... provided we don't blow each other up in the process.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

to be fair, isn't that enough for some people? Even if it's unhealthy, clinging to utopian ideals might give some people enough drive to keep doing shit for the cause and partisan slogans mean they don't have to think too hard while doing it. It's like a weird form of escapism for the morally-righteous. Same reason they see no problem inserting it into media where it doesn't belong- in their heads, activism and video games fulfill the same purpose of "getting something done (but not really) to feel good about myself".

That isn't gonna put food on the table though for most people. Not everyone thinks like that, especially people who aren't middle-upper class.

As Clown World devolves to be more and more insane, people who used to be considered left-leaning (such as myself) will come to be considered right-wing without even having to change their opinions. The social climate might not get any less liberal, but sane critical thinkers will dig in their heels and stay where they are as the center shifts to the left of them. Yesterday's moderate liberals are tomorrow's conservative allies. It won't be the first time that happened and it won't be the last... provided we don't blow each other up in the process.

I dunno how you can still cling to the left leaning banner when you know that.

And what other society dealt with the same thing are you talking about?

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

That isn't gonna put food on the table though for most people. Not everyone thinks like that, especially people who aren't middle-upper class.


I dunno how you can still cling to the left leaning banner when you know that.

And what other society dealt with the same thing are you talking about?

I don't cling to the left-leaning banner. That's what my opinions used to be summarized as 15 years ago, but according to modern liberals I'm a right-wing extremist. So, I currently identify as a centrist. It wasn't another society that dealt with it, but our own in the past. The meanings of "Democrat" and "Republican" used to be pretty much completely reversed, and pulled a 180 around the time Woodrow Wilson was president. We might see that happen again in the future.

 

[gang weeder]

I don't cling to the left-leaning banner. That's what my opinions used to be summarized as 15 years ago, but according to modern liberals I'm a right-wing extremist. So, I currently identify as a centrist. It wasn't another society that dealt with it, but our own in the past. The meanings of "Democrat" and "Republican" used to be pretty much completely reversed, and pulled a 180 around the time Woodrow Wilson was president. We might see that happen again in the future.

I felt about the same as you then over time I ended up actually being super right wing even by the "old" standards, because after all the shit that has happened, it seems pretty obvious those people were mostly right all along.

 

[Jason Wynn]

I don't cling to the left-leaning banner. That's what my opinions used to be summarized as 15 years ago, but according to modern liberals I'm a right-wing extremist. So, I currently identify as a centrist. It wasn't another society that dealt with it, but our own in the past. The meanings of "Democrat" and "Republican" used to be pretty much completely reversed, and pulled a 180 around the time Woodrow Wilson was president. We might see that happen again in the future.

I'm pretty much the same. Used to be a laid-back, live and let live lefty. My politics never changed, but the left now sees me as a hood-wearing Klansman or goose-stepping Nazi.

They'll never admit to changing, or even humor any kind of rational discussion however. I've tried explaining that I'm pretty much still the same guy I was 20 years ago, the left just went pants on head retarded and I didn't. Their response is always "well you were never truly a liberal then I guess!!!" Thanks to morons like you, you're right I no longer consider myself on the left.

Leftism is a cult, pure and simple.

 

[Executive Petrel]

Yes and no.

You see, kiddies don't rebel against authoritarianism, or capitalism, or big government, it's their parents. It's always their parents. Kids don't have the brainpower to realize that their youthful trolling of the authority figures closest to them in their lives (their parents, mainly) plays right into the hands of the capitalist elite. Sure they may be having fun, but they sure as hell aren't doing anything useful for society in the process, nor are they making any powerful or meaningful statements.

Big business isn't intimidated by hippies, punks, goths, emos, rivetheads, genderspecials, or any other youth counterculture. In fact, they ride off of them.

They're not even truly being rebellious, they just want to be "cool" or edgy, and even more so if it annoys their parents.

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Though on the other hand, it's also entirely possible that they'll also get sick of their peers' faggotry and rebel against that. Hell, even in the past, kids were very sensitive when anyone made fun of them for the subculture they belonged to. Nobody takes punks or goths seriously anymore.

You gotta tell kids, it's OK to make fun of these people. Pick any cringy asthetic you want, but a lifestyle that involves self-mutilation, sexual degeneracy, and willful rejection of reality is not conducive to happiness. It's worthy of nothing but contempt and mockery.

And you guys are missing the most important part: moonbats don't have children. Conservatives and moderates do. Rebelling against wokism would essentially be falling in line with their parents' beliefs, with the exception that they might develop a very edgy sense of humor that would bug their parents.

A goth can clean up his make up and untie the heavy-duty boots, but the cut off dick will remain the cut off dick forever.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

The right is just grumbling louder.