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Chris pre-lesbian tomgirl phase used to cite Optimus prime as an influence and role model. He even made his own Transformers to battle the evils threatening Cwcville in Sonichu.

And simultaneously, he'd use his Megatron pistol as a weapon to try and intimidate and/or curse people who he had beef with.

Good and Evil mean nothing to Chris, despite what he says. It's clear he just uses anything at his disposal as tools to keep the odds in his favor so he will still be able to consume. consume media, consume vidya, consume fast food, and consume figurative worlds of tugboat funds. he brings false promises of a Sonichu 11 that will never come now that someone has fed him the funds he desired, but his hunger won't ever be quenched. Even when the world is cold and dead and nothing but the hoard remains, he will still hunger. Even now, he's feeding off the weens' passive hatred and lust to "troll him" by giving him free things. Don't you get it? Don't you see? Chris IS THE UNMAKER!
 
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ZehnBoat said:
I just want to point out that chris bought a pillow with a cat girl on it, said he liked that cat lady from the danger dolan (ugh) videos, made up reproductive biology for fake hedgehogs, and iirc his comic where he births crystal, he changes into a hedgehog and lays an egg (i might be wrong)

Is chris technicaly a furry? Or is he desperate ? Both?
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Chris is both.

We all know he's desperate, that's probably the first thing you learn about Chris.

The furry part is less obvious. He likes furry stuff but never interacts with other furries.

Broseph said:
Does Chris hold the longest unemployment streak in the world? It's been 15 years and counting since He was fired from Wendy's.

I really don't think that that odd summer job he had way back in college and all that etsy stuff really count as "employment".
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I'm fairly sure that other able-bodied individuals have avoided work longer than Chris.
 
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Broseph said:
Does Chris hold the longest unemployment streak in the world? It's been 15 years and counting since He was fired from Wendy's.

I really don't think that that odd summer job he had way back in college and all that etsy stuff really count as "employment".
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Chris isn't unemployed. To be unemployed you have to be actively searching for work. Chris is out of the labor force. A bit of a technical point, I guess, but if you see unemployment numbers, it maybe useful to remember they don't count people like Chris.

But Chris is not incredibly remarkable. Stay-at-home spouses are not rare. Neither are people on disability.

While people are correct when they say Chris could work a little without losing the tugboat, the reality is a little more complicated. Basically, he has SSDI because "his autism prevents him from working". If he works a little, the underlying logic gets automatically adjusted to he gets SSDI because "his autism prevents him from working very much". If he earns too much money (more than $810 a month), his tugboat is at risk. Not neccessarily gone for good, but it will go away if he makes that much money repeatedly (9 times over the span of 5 years) and he can only get it reinstated when he stops earning that much money and demonstrates that happened because of autism.

Basically, if Chris works more than 20-25 hours a week at a minimum wage job on any kind of regular basis, he is putting his tugboat at risk. If you take out any moral arguments about receiving benefits, the message is that Chris has to be careful with part time jobs. Suppose he gets a job at Walmart working 20 hours a week at minimum wage. He normally would make $600 to $650 a month, which is great, but what happens if he gets asked to do a couple double shifts?

Which makes his situation not particularly uncommon for people on disability. Also keep in mind that a lot of people, like Chris, don't read the rules that carefully. The actual rules of how much and how often you can work are complicated, so what people absorb is the simpler message "I shouldn't work, because I might lose my SSDI".
 
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timtommy said:
While people are correct when they say Chris could work a little without losing the tugboat, the reality is a little more complicated. Basically, he has SSDI because "his autism prevents him from working". If he works a little, the underlying logic gets automatically adjusted to he gets SSDI because "his autism prevents him from working very much". If he earns too much money (more than $810 a month), his tugboat is at risk. Not neccessarily gone for good, but it will go away if he makes that much money repeatedly (9 times over the span of 5 years) and he can only get it reinstated when he stops earning that much money and demonstrates that happened because of autism.
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People often don't seem to grasp the difference between the fact there's generally a statutory limit on hours worked/earnings/assets etc. that automatically disqualify you and actual activity that undermines your claim. It's not like you can necessarily just say "okay it's $810 a month so I'll just keep my earnings below $800."

For an easier example than something like autism, where we don't really know the exact restrictions on activity that have qualified Chris for disability, imagine your claim is you can't engage in full-time work but one of the main reasons for that is you can't lift more than 5 pounds. But you have a 15 hour a week job loading trucks at Wal-Mart. At that point, clearly the claim of a lifting restriction is bullshit, even if you've only earned minimum wage doing that.

Another is sitting/standing/walking. You have to be able to regularly engage in sitting/standing/walking for an eight hour day. If you have to lie down for two hours in the middle of the day, for instance because of uncontrolled back pain, even a few times a month, you're not going to be able to hold down a job. So if you've been claiming you can only walk two hours at a time and you have a part-time job as a security job where you mostly stand and walk eight hours straight, again, your activities tend to show you do not actually have the disabilities you've claimed.

So it's not as simple as just keeping income below a magic number.

If you're claiming to be confined to a wheelchair, a single video of you doing the fandango puts that claim to rest.
 
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timtommy said:
Chris isn't unemployed. To be unemployed you have to be actively searching for work. Chris is out of the labor force. A bit of a technical point, I guess, but if you see unemployment numbers, it maybe useful to remember they don't count people like Chris.

But Chris is not incredibly remarkable. Stay-at-home spouses are not rare. Neither are people on disability.

While people are correct when they say Chris could work a little without losing the tugboat, the reality is a little more complicated. Basically, he has SSDI because "his autism prevents him from working". If he works a little, the underlying logic gets automatically adjusted to he gets SSDI because "his autism prevents him from working very much". If he earns too much money (more than $810 a month), his tugboat is at risk. Not neccessarily gone for good, but it will go away if he makes that much money repeatedly (9 times over the span of 5 years) and he can only get it reinstated when he stops earning that much money and demonstrates that happened because of autism.

Basically, if Chris works more than 20-25 hours a week at a minimum wage job on any kind of regular basis, he is putting his tugboat at risk. If you take out any moral arguments about receiving benefits, the message is that Chris has to be careful with part time jobs. Suppose he gets a job at Walmart working 20 hours a week at minimum wage. He normally would make $600 to $650 a month, which is great, but what happens if he gets asked to do a couple double shifts?

Which makes his situation not particularly uncommon for people on disability. Also keep in mind that a lot of people, like Chris, don't read the rules that carefully. The actual rules of how much and how often you can work are complicated, so what people absorb is the simpler message "I shouldn't work, because I might lose my SSDI".
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Oh holy shit somebody who actually knows how disability works
 
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AnOminous said:
People often don't seem to grasp the difference between the fact there's generally a statutory limit on hours worked/earnings/assets etc. that automatically disqualify you and actual activity that undermines your claim. It's not like you can necessarily just say "okay it's $810 a month so I'll just keep my earnings below $800."

For an easier example than something like autism, where we don't really know the exact restrictions on activity that have qualified Chris for disability, imagine your claim is you can't engage in full-time work but one of the main reasons for that is you can't lift more than 5 pounds. But you have a 15 hour a week job loading trucks at Wal-Mart. At that point, clearly the claim of a lifting restriction is bullshit, even if you've only earned minimum wage doing that.

Another is sitting/standing/walking. You have to be able to regularly engage in sitting/standing/walking for an eight hour day. If you have to lie down for two hours in the middle of the day, for instance because of uncontrolled back pain, even a few times a month, you're not going to be able to hold down a job. So if you've been claiming you can only walk two hours at a time and you have a part-time job as a security job where you mostly stand and walk eight hours straight, again, your activities tend to show you do not actually have the disabilities you've claimed.

So it's not as simple as just keeping income below a magic number.

If you're claiming to be confined to a wheelchair, a single video of you doing the fandango puts that claim to rest.
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It's not as simple in principle. As I said, if he keeps his income below $810 and keeps collecting SSDI, the claim he is making is "yes, I can work, but not very much, so I still need some support to compensate me for that."

That's a trickier claim, obviously. It is easy to understand why some levels of autism would make someone unable to work, but why would it restrict the hours?

Fortunately for Chris, detailed audits are not particularly common. If asked why he could work 20 hours but not more, Chris could probably claim something like his condition made working very stressful, in a way that builds up over time, so he needs to spread out his working.

My guess is that would work. But as you say, working at all does have the potential to put his tugboat at risk. Right now, they seem to have accepted the claim that he is not capable of claiming. Perhaps he doesn't want to do anything to put the claim at risk. Given the bureaucracy at SSDI, I don't think it is a huge risk, but you are certainly right that it isn't 0.
 
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timtommy said:
That's a trickier claim, obviously. It is easy to understand why some levels of autism would make someone unable to work, but why would it restrict the hours?

Fortunately for Chris, detailed audits are not particularly common. If asked why he could work 20 hours but not more, Chris could probably claim something like his condition made working very stressful, in a way that builds up over time, so he needs to spread out his working.
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Yea it'd be very easy for Chris to claim he's only capable of a few shifts a week, and that he has family obligations caring for an elderly woman, so he can't be out of the house 40 some hours a week.

timtommy said:
My guess is that would work. But as you say, working at all does have the potential to put his tugboat at risk. Right now, they seem to have accepted the claim that he is not capable of claiming. Perhaps he doesn't want to do anything to put the claim at risk. Given the bureaucracy at SSDI, I don't think it is a huge risk, but you are certainly right that it isn't 0.
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Well I have to doubt that the social security administration even knows about his side hustles. I doubt chris makes over $10,300 a year on his sales (maybe in gross, but certainly not in profit), which is the minimum you have to make before having to file taxes. I somehow doubt chris is filing tax returns if he doesn't have to. So that means they probably have no idea chris is making money. I'd also think most of chris's money just sits in his paypal account and then gets spent on lego or whatever and few funds actually reach his bank account. His tugboat should be relatively safe considering he gets his money independently and not through an employer who would file taxes on him.

In short, chris makes far too little money, in such a grey way, for them to ever notice and decide "hey this is tugboat abuse" and revoke his SSDI.
 
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Lipitor said:
Well I have to doubt that the social security administration even knows about his side hustles.
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He's the biggest lolcow alive. There are people who will randomly fuck with him as long as he lives. Any time he does anything, at all, that some ween thinks constitutes fraud, they'll report him to the tard bucks people to try to get it revoked. There is no way imaginable that he can pull any funny business and get away with it.
 
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AnOminous said:
He's the biggest lolcow alive. There are people who will randomly fuck with him as long as he lives. Any time he does anything, at all, that some ween thinks constitutes fraud, they'll report him to the tard bucks people to try to get it revoked. There is no way imaginable that he can pull any funny business and get away with it.
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well yea like i said, he doesn't make enough for it to matter. It seems he's constantly broke. I can't imagine those amiibos have lower overhead when you factor in product costs, shipping and driving all over the place to get them.
 
So what do you guys think will be Chris' next super expensive frivolous purchase? We know he already bought a nearly $500 lego Ghostbusters set, so what's next for him?

If I had to guess, I would say probably some other ridiculous Lego, set but other than Lego, I'm going to guess he's going to want to buy Fortress Maximus
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Why do I guess this? Well, as far as we know, Chris has slowed down on his purchasing of Transformers, however, we do know that last year, he spent nearly $200 to get the Devastator giftset from the Combiner Wars series (but as far as I can tell, he hasn't bought any of the other figures from that series). So it seems to me that he likes having big toys. I dunno, maybe he incorporates them into his little roleplay of Lego CWCville, and if that is the case, this toy will be something I could totally see him shelling out the cash for.

By the way, This toy is going to retail for about $250, last time I checked
 
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ObeseScreamingBlackMan said:
I've always been more curious about Bob's shed.

I just wonder what sorts of thing an engineer who had to share his space with a hoarder and an autist would have squirreled away from them in it.

I'm sure there are empty liquor bottles in there, but that can't be all of it.
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Bob's still alive in there, listening to jazz at the lowest volume possible.

"Sssh, don't tell my horrible family!"
 
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Broseph said:
Does Chris hold the longest unemployment streak in the world? It's been 15 years and counting since He was fired from Wendy's.

I really don't think that that odd summer job he had way back in college and all that etsy stuff really count as "employment".
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I know a guy who didn't work for nearly 14 years: he just mooched off people. Then he worked part-time (three hours a day) as a janitor at Gander Mountain in Toledo for seven years until he quit that for..... unemployment and living off his wife. He married a deparate libraian who treats him like a child. Dude's nearly 50. And nearly incapable of acting like an adult (for example, he considers one class a week as a community college tough. Routinely he will post about how difficult his college is.) Essentially Lodge is Chris if Chris managed to get his ideal heartsweet. The similarities are definately there. This guy also once drank two twelve packs of ginger beer in 24 hours. He was screaming about how he couldn't sleep at three in the morning after that. Even better his wife cooed him back to sleep. This was at an event that turned out to be the last he came to with me and my buddies.

No, he's not mentally disabled. He even served in the Navy (until they kicked him out).
 
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