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[Meriasek]

There isn't an end to the "shared" components. Have you heard of, for instance, Le Tote? They might be familiar as they bought a century-old department store brand (and despite it having some hard times in the last twenty years or so, they quickly ran it into the ground for good) but the concept is that they rent clothing with a focus on everyday wear (so this isn't just renting something fancy for an event, as formal wear stores have been known to do for years).

Obviously, this is a tiny business and probably doesn't get much beyond people trying it for novelty, but this is the future they want.

Yeah, the WEF envisioned "you will own nothing" future means you'll literally rent a kitchen mixer for cooking your lunch, it'll be delivered by drone and taken away after. If you're rich enough to have a kitchen and not live in a podshare mega bunkbed dormitory where everything is shared by default.
Abandoning all property means abandoning autonomy and placing yourself in the hands of "the state" or whomever. By being allowed property you at least have the option for autonomy. You cab take it, you can own things, and you can leave if you're so inclined. Sure, you can waste it and live dependently even when you own things, but if you are not allowed to own things, being autonomous is made illegal. You will be part of the bughive.
And that's where this vision sucks. A sustainable, walkable city is a good thing. Options for transport are good. But under capitalism you can opt out of this. It might not be easy, but you are allowed to. And that's also good. Under the bughive rule you can't opt out. You are not allowed to, or opting out will be even more prohibitively expensive.
I just wanna enjoy riding my hipster fixie bike to work and coming back home to a dozen guitars in my own flat. Leave me alone with all the commie bullshit

 

[CFC-12]

Even if it's unrealistic, it's concerning that there's a subset of the population that believes in the notion that people shouldn't need to "own" anything in the future. Having a private place to call your own and having your own things you can use whenever you need/want is practically a fundamental part of being a human. They're practically promoting the erosion of individual identity.

 

[quaawaa]

TikTok placed a warning on one of Jason's videos:

Spoiler: Image in Tweet

Source (Archive)

Hmm...I wonder why he cropped out the title...

Spoiler: Video from TikTok

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Based Chinese warning against ignoring traffic lights when cycling.

Also, here's proof that traffic lights are also unnecessary for cars:

Spoiler: Archive

 

[FILTH Tourist]

TikTok placed a warning on one of Jason's videos:
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Hmm...I wonder why he cropped out the title...
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Maybe the tag #redlightrunner automatically trips that warning? I can't imagine the videos in that tag are showing safe driving techniques.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

TikTok placed a warning on one of Jason's videos:
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Based Chinese warning against ignoring traffic lights when cycling.

Coincidentally, i ran into that video. He also argues that because bikes dont need traffic lights, ita best that theyre separated from cars... While showing bicyclists going through some kinda underpass under a road.

Hmmm.

 

[CFC-12]

Coincidentally, i ran into that video. He also argues that because bikes dont need traffic lights, ita best that theyre separated from cars... While showing bicyclists going through some kinda underpass under a road.

Hmmm.

But this is bad actually because it's "car infrastructure". Anything that does not directly hinder the operation of private motor vehicles is bad, even when it benefits other means of transportation.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Also, here's proof that traffic lights are also unnecessary for cars:

Spoiler: Archive

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honestly kind of based

 

[quaawaa]

Someone asks /r/fuckcars "Why is Induced Demand a Problem for Cars, but not Other Methods of Transportation?":

Answer: because cars bad, transit good.





Too many cars, just one build one lane:

Urbanists incorrectly using econmic terms:

Both transit and cars have positive and negative externalities. Never trust someone who argues that negative externalities should be internalized because 99.9% of the time they calculate externalities incorrectly.

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Speaking of induced demand:

JuSt OnE mOrE tRaIn BrO!



Most of the thread is hating on Los Angeles for having 15 minute headways during rush hour:

One problem: Los Angeles Metro Rail has 4-8 minute headways:

and that particular line/stop has a 7.5 minute headway (Archive):

That's not a lie:

Notice that ridership was declining pre-covid and current ridership is only ~60% of what it was before.

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[AdmiralRenae]

I really can't wrap my head around the "15 Minute City" concept. Even in Tokyo, which is just about as optimized as a city can be, the average commute time is an hour. It takes 15 minutes just to walk to the train station more often than not. The only conclusion I can come to is that the people pitching these ideas are shut in NEETs. Or maybe they're just really bummed that the Walled City is no longer a thing.

Do the food delivery serfs get to drive cars in this enlightened future society, or are we going to subsidize Uber Eats, too?

The WEF and Oxford is planning “15 minute cities” where people would be locked into “districts” with a maximum of 100 days of leaving their districts. This could be the WEF’s ultimate goal, they even said it in Davos 2023, “car free cities” with digital ID!

You will own nothing and be happy!

Having been to Japan myself, The trains, while cleaner then western cities still take about 15 minutes if you are going to Akihabara to Shibuya and about an hour if you are going to say, Yokosuka. You are also at the mercy for mass train delays and track closures. So the “15 minutes” stretches to 20 to 30 minutes at the best of times.

Spoiler: Link to another Kiwifarms thread to the WEF

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/world-economic-forum-megathread-the-great-reset.78671/

I think it ties into this, the brainwashed mass being led like sheep into the slaughter

 

[Overpriced Gaming Chair]

The real problem with cities has always been the problem with cities: centralisation. Cities will always be crowded and transport within them will always be overcrowded as well, because they've centralised so many people into a relatively small area.

Adam Something has criticized skyscrapers for this reason and argues that in 99.9% of the cases, a building should not go higher than ten floors.

There is a response video that tries to create a false dichotomy by explaining how skyscrapers are better than suburban sprawl and ignoring other options. Ironically, "commie blocks" are likely the best solution (as long as they're not literal cookie cutter concrete cubes like their original namesakes.)

 

[Monuklear]

The only conclusion I can come to is that the people pitching these ideas are shut in NEETs.

That is the general vibe I get from all this urbanism crap from the last 2 years.
Something about the new bikebros' language feels very sterile. The way they talk about public transit and street design is weirdly detached, intellectualized and abstract. Like they don't really go outside all that often and wouldn't go outside even if they'd lived in the most walkable city on the planet. It's all a game to them.

Don't get me wrong, I live in a pretty walkable place and I'm all for improving public transportation. But I don't make any of it a major part of my psyche like the new urbanism fantics apparently do.

 

[Meriasek]

Adam Something has criticized skyscrapers for this reason and argues that in 99.9% of the cases, a building should not go higher than ten floors.

There is a response video that tries to create a false dichotomy by explaining how skyscrapers are better than suburban sprawl and ignoring other options. Ironically, "commie blocks" are likely the best solution (as long as they're not literal cookie cutter concrete cubes like their original namesakes.)

Adam Something really likes commie blocks actually. At least the principle of mid rise projects where many amenities are contained within the immediate vicinity. Which is a good thing, yeah. But well, construction wise the original commie blocks might have been better than 19th century urban living conditions, but horrible by modern standards. The principle isn't bad, though, for an urban setting.
But these urbanism fags want these projects to erase individuality, for people to own as little as possible and be as dependent as possible. No individual freedom while pretending that the crumbs of individual freedom that are provided to you are actually all you need.
Like urban gardening. They want you to think that a shared garden with your neighbours is as good as your own private gardening. But you can't do what you want there, you're always at the mercy of TPTB.
Like public transport. They want you to think that taking the bike or train can take you anywhere just as good as a car, but you're either limited in range or at the mercy of TPTB. They can just shut things down, or something can take out the system, and you're stuck. With a car you have to take care of it and prepare for outages and stuff, but thats the thing, it's YOUR responsibility and in your control.

 

[Monuklear]

Like public transport. They want you to think that taking the bike or train can take you anywhere just as good as a car, but you're either limited in range or at the mercy of TPTB.

That might just be the America brain talking. If all you've ever had is shitty suburban buses (if even that), then of course you'll associate public transport with general shittiness.
I moved into a fairly central city some years ago and I never once felt limited by the public transportation network. I have a car but I barely use it (only maybe once a week when I buy a lot of shit from the big box discount store). I commute via bus and pretty much anywhere I need to go is easily accessible by bus/tram/metro. It is as good as a car.

 

[Meriasek]

That might just be the America brain talking. If all you've ever had is shitty suburban buses (if even that), then of course you'll associate public transport with general shittiness.
I moved into a fairly central city some years ago and I never once felt limited by the public transportation network. I have a car but I barely use it (only maybe once a week when I buy a lot of shit from the big box discount store). I commute via bus and pretty much anywhere I need to go is easily accessible by bus/tram/metro. It is as good as a car.

Yeah, it is as good as a car in those places... as long as they're running. My point is that it's sort of out of your control if transport authorities would decide to shut down services, or tram drivers strike or whatever. Imagine if shit hits the fan and the gummint decides that trains are no bueno. You can't get out. Or a social credit score is implemented and you can't go anywhere because of wrong think.
It's far fetched, but limiting transport to public transport and bikes, as practical as it is in normal cases, enables a restriction of mobility, that was my point. Normally, a good transit network and bike infrastructure is good enough, I fully agree. I prefer that myself, as I don't really like driving that much. But I also like the principle of autonomy that owning a car enables.

 

[Monuklear]

Yeah, it is as good as a car in those places... as long as they're running. My point is that it's sort of out of your control if transport authorities would decide to shut down services, or tram drivers strike or whatever. Imagine if shit hits the fan and the gummint decides that trains are no bueno. You can't get out. Or a social credit score is implemented and you can't go anywhere because of wrong think.
It's far fetched, but limiting transport to public transport and bikes, as practical as it is in normal cases, enables a restriction of mobility, that was my point. Normally, a good transit network and bike infrastructure is good enough, I fully agree. I prefer that myself, as I don't really like driving that much. But I also like the principle of autonomy that owning a car enables.

Don't know. These schizo doomsday predictions were never very convincing to me. If things ever reach that point, they may as well just close off roads with police barricades or even forbit any vehicular traffic outright.
Nevermind the fact you can just do both. I still own a car.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Don't know. These schizo doomsday predictions were never very convincing to me. If things ever reach that point, they may as well just close off roads with police barricades or even forbit any vehicular traffic outright.
Nevermind the fact you can just do both. I still own a car.

You don't need a doomsday, you might get screwed over just by one very convenient line getting axed. Changes in roots happen all the time and can make or brake your personal time use. Witch isn't a problem when you have options like your own car but these anti car people don't want you to have that option. It's their way or nothing.

 

[Meriasek]

Don't know. These schizo doomsday predictions were never very convincing to me. If things ever reach that point, they may as well just close off roads with police barricades or even forbit any vehicular traffic outright.
Nevermind the fact you can just do both. I still own a car.

Yeah, and doing both is what I prefer, too. Thing is that these urbanists don't want both. They actively want to ban cars, because, well, fuck cars.

 

[Peasant]

Don't know. These schizo doomsday predictions were never very convincing to me. If things ever reach that point, they may as well just close off roads with police barricades or even forbit any vehicular traffic outright.
Nevermind the fact you can just do both. I still own a car.

Closing off roads with police barricades is harder and takes a lot more coordination and boots on the ground. Shutting down transit systems is a matter of sending the employees home and maybe plopping armed guards at the station for good measure.

I know most people aren't in the habit of asking "How can this be used to fuck me over?" I would contend that if you're posting on Kiwi Farms, you should know the value of not leaving your fate in the hands of disinterested third parties.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

It is as good as a car.

It is not. I lived in a modern Asian city for a good bit and I would rather drive for 20 minutes in traffic than spend an hour navigating the subway/bus lines to get across town. Even with a robust public transportation system it will be slower than your own personal vehicle. Then there is the issue of rush hours and holidays where you are shoulder to shoulder with a hundred strangers for who knows how long or you straight up get stranded because trains are at peak capacity and are unable to get in one. Your car is always there waiting for you and while traffic sucks it is nice to just relax and listen to music or a pod cast while sitting on a comfy seat.

 

[Corpun]

Always amazing finding these tards in the wild. Saw these types on a community post of that one spot in PA that is off a highway redditors use to pretend that is an image of what America is outside of their bughives.