Diseased Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.

[iffywas]

People pointed out numerous outright lies and you just completely ignored them.

I'm completely unimpressed with your bullshit.

Calling it now - new Tantacrul video about the awful people at Kiwi farms who are literal murderers and their site needs taking down. Don't forget to smash the like button, subscribe and share!

 

[muffin123]

Incidentally, there are no interesting or valid criticisms of my video here, so I won't be responding to any of it. They're so dumb and so illogical, my kids would see through them. I can't make morons smart. I'll leave you with this:

1. The founder is too thick to comprehend the damage he has caused and too terrified to own up to the rest. Stupid and cowardly. What a catch! No wonder he's an incel.
2. The evidence of what I'm saying is right there for anyone with the wherewithal to look into it to verify it's true. If you can't see it, you're either 14 or a bit of a dullard.
3. About those who seem to think that what I'm saying has some repercussions for this forum, please note: it is hard to overestimate how little of a fuck I give about this place one way or the other. The OP decided to state in the title of the thread that I'm out against section 230, which I'm not.

That's it. I'm out. Couldn't be arsed verifying myself because the mods are taking too long. Best to all of you.

Since you are resorting to childish behavior such as name calling and personal attacks upon strangers as you have no legit arguments to come up with, I want to ask, are you blind or are you just a stupid ignorant twat? Did you not read OP’s most recent replies to you and the new edited update of the first post? You claim to not care about this place, yet you went out of your way to sign up here and make long whiny replies without fully reading or comprehending any of the content of this thread. You should go back to making music or whatever it is that you do, because you certainly are not suitable for the role of playing advocate for the weak and suffering since you come accross as shallow, judgemental, ignorant, irrational, overly-aggressive and incredibly immature. You want the whole world to be ran the way you run your YouTube channel, through heavy censorship, where you dictate what people can and cannot comment or express.

 

[Laughing Muttley]

People pointed out numerous outright lies and you just completely ignored them.

I'm completely unimpressed with your bullshit.

He's smart enough to know that he cannot be publically seen interacting with the farms in good faith. As PoB (Person of Britishness) he probably knows full well that he has nothing to earn and everything to lose from engaging with any argument from farmers.

 

[frap]

Incidentally, there are no interesting or valid criticisms of my video here, so I won't be responding to any of it. They're so dumb and so illogical, my kids would see through them. I can't make morons smart. I'll leave you with this:

1. The founder is too thick to comprehend the damage he has caused and too terrified to own up to the rest. Stupid and cowardly. What a catch! No wonder he's an incel.
2. The evidence of what I'm saying is right there for anyone with the wherewithal to look into it to verify it's true. If you can't see it, you're either 14 or a bit of a dullard.
3. About those who seem to think that what I'm saying has some repercussions for this forum, please note: I don't care about this place one way or the other. The OP decided to state in the title of the thread that I'm out against section 230, which I'm not.

The only one ignoring and distorting things is you.

That's it. I'm out. Couldn't be arsed verifying myself because the mods are taking too long. Best to all of you.

This is a big busy forum and I'm sure Null and the mods have plenty of other shit to do on top of verifying you. You showed up less than 24 hours ago. You're hardly going to be at the top of the list.

 

[afounder]

Incidentally, there are no interesting or valid criticisms of my video here, so I won't be responding to any of it. They're so dumb and so illogical, my kids would see through them. I can't make morons smart.

There's a bunch of valid criticism here, you're just too thick to take any. I have no idea why you came here. You haven't added any value or insight beyond what was said in your video, and you thought you would have an audience here. You have provided no evidence to even back up some of the outlandish claims in your video and you're actively cleaning up your comments section that points out any valid criticisms in your video.

The founder is too thick to comprehend the damage he has caused and too terrified to own up to the rest. Stupid and cowardly. What a catch! No wonder he's an incel.

It is not my fault if someone used a website I founded and long left to kill themselves. In this particular case, it was clear that the person was determined to do what they're going to do regardless of what anyone told him. A site didn't "push him over the edge" or "coach him to die," thats just false. He was even accessing the site when it was blocked in his country and on the server side as well, so he was well determined to go through with it, with or without the site.

It is also rich of you to make judgements of one's character or to call me an "incel" when your rhetoric gets called out or torn apart. You could have very well ignored this thread, but your ego and savior complex wouldn't allow that.

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Giant savior complex, I mean.

The evidence of what I'm saying is right there for anyone with the wherewithal to look into it to verify it's true. If you can't see it, you're either 14 or a bit of a dullard.

You've posted no evidence. You're the one making the claims, it is on YOU to prove and provide evidence to back up those claims. You can't just say the proof is out there and make a bunch of baseless claims.

About those who seem to think that what I'm saying has some repercussions for this forum, please note: I don't care about this place one way or the other. The OP decided to state in the title of the thread that I'm out against section 230, which I'm not.

We're well aware that you don't care. You only care about views and subscribers on your Youtube channel, and you used a dead 17-year-old to try to gain clout out of the situation. We will probably see a video about Kiwifarms being the "most evil forum" on the internet from you in a couple of weeks, can't wait.

That's it. I'm out. Couldn't be arsed verifying myself because the mods are taking too long. Best to all of you.

See ya, won't miss you. Go pound sand, faggot.

 

[Burd Turglar]

There are a lot of really bad and unreliable suicide methods that are pretty likely to leave you a fucked up vegetable or nuke your liver but not actually kill you immediately. I'm not sure why anyone would want to do anything with such serious ramifications by just randomly guessing what would work instead of researching it first.

Sure, just jumping in front of a train will probably do it, but not everyone wants to do that, and even that can have horrific results, like for instance you get cut in half but don't die immediately, plus you're trapped in the undercarriage of the train, but it's compressing your lower body so you don't bleed out.

But you'll immediately die once they move the train, and so they tell you that's what's going to happen. Not fun for anyone involved.

That's why they went after Michelle Carter here. It was indeed a really despicable case of basically pressuring someone into suicide, apparently just to get her jollies. Even so, I think the prosecution was questionable. She only served 11 months in any event, which is probably why she just did her time rather than dump a lot of money into a constitutional challenge.

Hero dose of heroin. Done and done.

 

[pulstar2]

FWIW, I learned about philip nitschke via learning of SS and his talks changed my mind about the right-to-die subject.

 

[AnOminous]

Hero dose of heroin. Done and done.

There are enough brain-damaged junkies out there who OD'd and got "rescued" to put the lie to that.

 

[Burd Turglar]

There are enough brain-damaged junkies out there who OD'd and got "rescued" to put the lie to that.

When I say hero dose, I mean a full on hero dose. It doesn't take much to OD and just do it where you won't be found. Worked damn well for a bunch of people I knew and they weren't even trying to unalive.

 

[Rembrandt]

Well that was disappointing. Time to unsub

 

[WorldEaterChampion]

Tantacrul here. Can verify myself by making a public comment on my video or something similar.

So, to start, the 'assessment' by the OP of this thread is laughable. It states that my video is bullshit even though the following statements are demonstrably true:

1. The site contains statements of encouragement for anon users to kill themselves on a daily basis (breaking the supposed main rule of the site)
2. The site contains multiple threads where people ask to be DM'd the email addresses of sellers from whom they can buy poisons to kill themselves on a daily basis. They are then given this information (I experienced this personally and I purchased a method myself by following this exact procedure. It was simple.)
3. The site has instruction threads which were (until my vid came out) publicly available to anyone. They'll be made publicly available again when the hear dies down. This is also what they did when the NYT article came out.
4. The site has an instruction thread for buying SN which leads to Exit International, which requires a subscription to join. This is undeniably true
5. The site has a partners section which has been used by predators to target vulnerable young people (leading to a prosecution of one user in Glasgow, which I discuss in the video). The site has not removed the partners section in response. They think it's fine that it remains as is.
6. The site verifiably coached a 17 year old to kill himself. This kid was not the first minor the site has helped to die.
7. As mentioned by others in this thread, the main mascot of the site, who posts morbid nonsense about how everyone should die because life is a cruel mistake - is actively protected by the admin despite constant complaints from other users on the forum who rightly see these posts as toxic and dangerous, given the highly vulnerable nature of many of those on SS.
8. The site is a 'free speech' site.... unless someone dares to challenge it too effectively. If you do that, you get banned.

Take those points together and you have the substance of my video. Pretty difficult to see how this can be picked apart, since most of the points are simple statements of fact.

Another few points in response to the OP's conclusions:

1. I do not make a judgement about section 230 or whether or not free speech should be curtailed in my video. I simply point out that the debate exists. I have very nuanced feelings about this topic... but in general I am very uneasy with the idea of applying rules that limit free speech. I just felt that my own opinions were not massively relevant. I expected people to make up their own minds. The OP states that my aim is to kill section 230, which is a moronic reading.
   
   
2. I do not at any point make a judgement about personal autonomy when it comes to ending one's life. Specifically, I do not make a judgement call about whether someone has the right to take matters into their own hands or not. This is actually not really a point I needed to discuss in the video (again, I have very nuanced views here). My video is about how SS encourages, misinforms, coaches minors, enables psychopaths and discourages seeking mental health treatment.
   
   
3. There have been many statements to the effect: 'why are we talking about taking down the site, when the REAL problem is the wider world that drives people to feel suicidal in the first place?'. This is an irrelevant criticism. I am not discussing the causes of suicidal ideation. I'm discussing how badly SS misinforms people who are experiencing suicidal ideation. I do not need to discuss why suicidal people feel suicidal in order to make the case that SS is doing an incredibly bad job at providing support for them. This is not rocket science, guys.

To state that I am attacking any kind of personal freedom is nonsense. I am simply against SS because it is run by idiots who cause enormous harm to vulnerable people.

Kill yourself Nigger.

 

[pizzarat]

This is exactly how this guy acted when he came on SS before he made the video. Wouldn't listen to anyone, even people who were sympathetic. He spoke at us, not with us.


"Anyone who challenges any point quickly gets jumped on by white knights, then the thread descends into farce and the admin starts mouthing off, and tHe BuLlY cLiQuE get warned, banned, and ostracised. There is no bully clique, it's all deliberately made into drama."

@iffywas for some reason it won't let me respond to your post but I wanted to add that I've even seen people who question the moderation decisions surrounding all of it get jumped on like this by rain and the white knights.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

Incidentally, there are no interesting or valid criticisms of my video here, so I won't be responding to any of it...

1. The founder is too thick to comprehend the damage he has caused and too terrified to own up to the rest. Stupid and cowardly. What a catch! No wonder he's an incel.
2. The evidence of what I'm saying is right there for anyone with the wherewithal to look into it to verify it's true. If you can't see it, you're either 14 or a bit of a dullard.
3. About those who seem to think that what I'm saying has some repercussions for this forum, please note: I don't care about this place one way or the other...

That's it. I'm out. Couldn't be arsed verifying myself because the mods are taking too long...

This sorta says everything you need to know about this person. They are incapable of responding to valid critiques of their works, they resort to insults when people don't agree with them, they don't care that their actions impact others, and they have absolutely no patience.

To sum it up, they are a waste of time and effort to respond to and should be roundly discounted or seen as yet another internet crackpot.

Hero dose of heroin. Done and done.

A hero dose of Fentanyl will work better. By hero dose I mean a horse syringe (my vet friends will hate me for mentioning that).

 

[spastic_bag]

Tale as old as time. Boy finds YouTube, boy shits on Sibelius on YouTube, boy gets following, boy decides that he is An Important™ and An Moral™ and that he should use his An Platform™ to bring An Attention™ to the important An Social Issue™.

 

[iffywas]

Tantacrul - *opens a packet of SN from IC which he went out of his way to source and buy*

Also Tantacrul "omg I can't believe someone sent me this to kill me!"

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

In Tantacrul's honor, I will be opening up a website that distributes free sodium nitrite to anyone who says they are interested in getting started home meat curing and/or taking up metalwork as a hobby. I will ensure that I mention that this is done in their honor in a slip of paper in each shipment.

I'll make sure to let everyone know with a big advertising blitz when freesodiumnitritethankstantacrul.com is up and running.

 

[Markass the Worst]

I wonder how the folk on SS are reacting to Tantacrul's behavior on here.

This is exactly how this guy acted when he came on SS before he made the video. Wouldn't listen to anyone, even people who were sympathetic. He spoke at us, not with us.

At least on here he won't be banned for sperging out like that.

 

[afounder]

I believe @afounder wrote these rules? If so, did you see and deal with any violations? Nobody seems to give a damn about rules any more, it's just a free-for-all. That said, I don't particularly care about rules or grassing on anyone who deems to have broken them. There is definitely a bias though as to who can and can't break them.

Correct. I wrote these rules about 3 years ago I believe. Most of them were enforced, but I know there was some extra stuff that was added to the rules by my partner As the original rule set detailed that encouragement wasn't allowed and didn't include the other stuff. Many of that other rules depend on user reports and I know those were handled well under my leadership at least. I can't speak for the current administration.

Many of the rules here depend on user reporting the violation and then cleaning it up from there. The problem we ran into at one point is that users weren't really reporting much and there were thousands of posts made to the forum every day, so it would be very hard to proactively read thousands of posts for rule violations.

 

[Well-groomed Discord User]

A year ago I fell into a deep state of depression and all I really wanted to was to kill myself, but then I browsed the Kiwi Farms achievements page and found a new resolution; a renewed will to live.
I won't kill myself until I'm able to unlock the achievement of marrying another (biological female) farmer.

Thanks, Kiwi Farms, you saved my life.

 

[Burd Turglar]

Most people actually don't have smack connections. Anyone can buy a shotgun, but possibly they don't want to leave behind a gay corpse for their mom to find. Monoxide is a pretty good method if you have a source for a canister of it, but you'd need a plausible excuse.

I'm not sure how it's a controversial opinion that you should probably do some research before embarking on a life or death decision.

Hard drugs are actually incredibly easy to get your hands on especially in a city, it's all the fun drugs that are harder to track down without a known connections. Mexico is flooding the US with fake pills laced with fentanyl that you can buy on snapchat if you're a zoomer. Adults can just go to the hood and find a corner boy and badda bing you got as much horse as you can afford.

Guns are tricky, one of my customers survived shooting himself in the head with a pistol and another guy you see around where I'm at blew his jaw off with a shotgun and now just has a fucked up pucker hole for a maw.

A hero dose of Fentanyl will work better. By hero dose I mean a horse syringe (my vet friends will hate me for mentioning that).

You don't need anywhere near a horse syringe worth of fent but I like where your head is at.