King of the hill appreciation thread - Yup.

[TVB]

I thought about it more, and since they're firing Toby Huss as Kahn, I think he should be cast in the role of Lucky.

I could see him play as Lucky, but how could they tackle him without Luanne? Both Brittany Murphy and Tom Petty were long dead.

 

[Flatline]

but how could they tackle him without Luanne?

They can say Luanne moved away or, more drastically, kill her off.

 

[TVB]

They can say Luanne moved away or, more drastically, kill her off.

Or both maybe.

 

[Flexo]

For the greatest callback, they should just say that a tornado swept through Lucky & Louanne's trailer park and their house/trailer was never seen again.

 

[Dysnomia]

Or both maybe.

She decided to join Buckley in eternity. He was her one true love.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I'm unnerved by this announcement. I hope they don't age up the characters. That always depresses me.

Yeah but that's the only way to really do it, unless it's a prequel, which these types of shows don't seem to do.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

She decided to join Buckley in eternity. He was her one true love.

*Ah hey ma ma mommy doo-din-nie-ya intensifies*

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Been holding off since I heard the reboot was now in full affect, but I want to talk about it. Personally, the more I think on it, the less I want this reboot to happen. I cannot see it being good and would rather KOTH had the graceful death it did rather than this.

My biggest concern is how the show will come back. If it is a retro return where Arlen is still in the 90s/00s, they run into the problem that most stories have been told. If it is current year, god help us all.

KOTH in current year seems like it fundamentally couldn’t work. It was a show bathed in the 90s and 00s eras, so bringing it to modern day would be wrong. For those who disagree, answer me this… Dale Gribble? How the hell is this character going to work in current year? He is a character based on Alex Jones, you know, the man being strung up for everything he owns. There is no way Dale could go well in current year. Either he will get political or be completely diluted to being an aliens joke. Dale Gribble alone scares the shit out of me given how much he echoes current year. In the 2000s it was funny, now, his shit is a little too real.

Another issue is Hank’s Republican politics. This has already been diluted given the he wouldn’t vote in 2016, which btw, goes against the episode where he learned and preached it was important to. Hank doesn’t fully fit current left or right, and both sides have claimed him to some degree. Just like Dale, being impartial isn’t going to work. It doesn’t help that any plot I hear for Hank/Bobby dealing with current year is LGBT shit.

There is also the issue of Khan and John Redcorn, who may be changed, or are going to be, to fit current year standards.

KOTH is one of those shows that works better as a period piece. I cannot see it evolving gracefully. Maybe I am too cynical given how shit 99% of reboots are, but I feel that KOTH should stay dead.

 

[TVB]

I was worried about the new Beavis & Butthead at first, but it turned out to be good. It continued on where the 2011 show left off (the same show where the original 90s show left off). I'd say the OG creator Mike Judge, and hell, even Paramount themselves are handling Beavis & Butthead better than most of, if not all, revivals or reboots. But again, Paramount (while a woke company) is slightly a bit sane compared to Disney, whereas that company is full-blown woke.

I'm not saying Mike Judge isn't allowed to revive King of the Hill on his own, as he's proven to be consistent with quality. All things considered, I'm still very cautious due to it being a Disney property. At least I can scoff at the idea of Futurama coming back to Hulu for episodes, because it's going to continue the tradition of what they've done during the Comedy Central era by being a ripoff of other shows (that, and Groening still wants his shows to be milked). But with KoTH coming to Hulu for new episodes sounds risky and cutthroat. I'm just hoping it still manages to be as good as the new Beavis & Butthead.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

I was worried about the new Beavis & Butthead at first, but it turned out to be good. It continued on where the 2011 show left off (the same show where the original 90s show left off). I'd say the OG creator Mike Judge, and hell, even Paramount themselves are handling Beavis & Butthead better than most of, if not all, revivals or reboots. But again, Paramount (while a woke company) is slightly a bit sane compared to Disney, whereas that company is full-blown woke.

I'm not saying Mike Judge isn't allowed to revive King of the Hill on his own, as he's proven to be consistent with quality. All things considered, I'm still very cautious due to it being a Disney property. At least I can scoff at the idea of Futurama coming back to Hulu for episodes, because it's going to continue the tradition of what they've done during the Comedy Central era by being a ripoff of other shows (that, and Groening still wants his shows to be milked). But with KoTH coming to Hulu for new episodes sounds risky and cutthroat. I'm just hoping it still manages to be as good as the new Beavis & Butthead.

I think Judge is fine as a writer, but Beavis & Butthead and KOTH are still very different series and I feel KOTH is something more constrained to its era than B&B. Characters like Dale are much harder to write around in current year given conspiratards are no longer something normies ignore. KOTH isn’t political, but it is political enough to where I feel like a transformation to modern day is going to end badly. B&B is really just two dip shits unaware of the world around them, KOTH is the opposite and as such, it will likely have a rougher transition.

 

[TVB]

I think Judge is fine as a writer, but Beavis & Butthead and KOTH are still very different series and I feel KOTH is something more constrained to its era than B&B. Characters like Dale are much harder to write around in current year given conspiratards are no longer something normies ignore. KOTH isn’t political, but it is political enough to where I feel like a transformation to modern day is going to end badly. B&B is really just two dip shits unaware of the world around them, KOTH is the opposite and as such, it will likely have a rougher transition.

While I agree that they are two different shows, the same way as how an orange and a banana are two different fruits. That said, they could continue on the tradition of Hank Hill still being a propane salesman for Buck Strickland. That said, yes, I am very scared of how the new show will tackle Dale Gribble's conspiracy theories. But then again, I've watched stuff like Inside Job (which I'm still pissed that it was cancelled) and it does better at doing conspiracy theories with its humor and writing (even though, that's a totally different show as it is more of an over-the-top animated sci-fi sitcom). Maybe they could, but I'm being too generous here. I doubt they'll pull this off.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Dale Gribble is too based for KOTH now. He was right about the Beast, he was right about the Chinese Communist Feminists and the Trans Lobby, he was right about climate change being a UN conspiracy to fuck with emission standards, and he was kinda right about the CIA shooting Kennedy.*

*His contention was that the shot came from the grassy knoll, not the book depository. Still right about the government killing people.

 

[TVB]

Dale Gribble is too based for KOTH now. He was right about the Beast, he was right about the Chinese Communist Feminists and the Trans Lobby, he was right about climate change being a UN conspiracy to fuck with emission standards, and he was kinda right about the CIA shooting Kennedy.*

*His contention was that the shot came from the grassy knoll, not the book depository. Still right about the government killing people.

They could still do Dale's nutty conspiracy theory rants. Sadly, it won't be the same as back in the days.

 

[TVB]

Double posting here to show everyone this

 

[Mr. ShadowCreek]

If the show does have them stay the same age Hank would now be either a late Gen X'er or an early millennial. That would have him just a few years older than original Bobby; maybe 8 at the most. I think they might do what Beavis and Butthead did and do a combination. I can see an episode where Hank learns the school is teaching gender crap to kids behind closed doors and Hank worries they want to transition Bobby behind his back.

I'm worried about the political jokes though. Are the writers really going to do orange man bad jokes even though Trumps been out for a couple years?

 

[Sniperwoof]

I'm worried about the political jokes though. Are the writers really going to do orange man bad jokes even though Trumps been out for a couple years?

I really doubt it. At most they might do a repeat of the Bush episode where Hank is offended not by Trump's policies but because he's a New Yorker. People forget this but anti Bush hysteria was almost as insane and over the top as TDS and they did Bush pretty respectful manner.

 

[Mr. ShadowCreek]

I really doubt it. At most they might do a repeat of the Bush episode where Hank is offended not by Trump's policies but because he's a New Yorker. People forget this but anti Bush hysteria was almost as insane and over the top as TDS and they did Bush pretty respectful manner.

I do remember a lot of people hating on him. I thought it was mostly calling him stupid though. I can't remember people comparing him to Hitler or Obama calling him and his supports out in every speech. I was in elementary when Bush started though and in high school when his second term ended so I was young.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Dale Gribble is too based for KOTH now. He was right about the Beast, he was right about the Chinese Communist Feminists and the Trans Lobby, he was right about climate change being a UN conspiracy to fuck with emission standards, and he was kinda right about the CIA shooting Kennedy.*

*His contention was that the shot came from the grassy knoll, not the book depository. Still right about the government killing people.

If the reboot means anything, the way how they handle Dale will be key with how they handle his wife’s Native American son. If they have spout The Great Replacement theory in the most positive way, then his character will be diminished, even if done in a comedic way.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I was worried about the new Beavis & Butthead at first, but it turned out to be good. It continued on where the 2011 show left off (the same show where the original 90s show left off). I'd say the OG creator Mike Judge, and hell, even Paramount themselves are handling Beavis & Butthead better than most of, if not all, revivals or reboots. But again, Paramount (while a woke company) is slightly a bit sane compared to Disney, whereas that company is full-blown woke.

I'm not saying Mike Judge isn't allowed to revive King of the Hill on his own, as he's proven to be consistent with quality. All things considered, I'm still very cautious due to it being a Disney property. At least I can scoff at the idea of Futurama coming back to Hulu for episodes, because it's going to continue the tradition of what they've done during the Comedy Central era by being a ripoff of other shows (that, and Groening still wants his shows to be milked). But with KoTH coming to Hulu for new episodes sounds risky and cutthroat. I'm just hoping it still manages to be as good as the new Beavis & Butthead.

I was very disappointed in how the town of Highland Texas for B&B was gentified to being a very bland place practically with no satire whatsoever. The fun of Beavis & Butthead was seeing the two idiots interact with the funny characters around them.

Since KOTH's Arlen is even more apart of the show I'm really concerned how it'll be portrayed. Arlen is supposed to be a pretty boring place with average to downright mediocre people. It feels Mike Judge and the writers are somewhat scared at parodying the types of people they likely haven't been around in decades.

Also I don't know how they'll change up the continuity. Hank Hill and Peggy's 1997 incarnations would be well within retirement age.

 

[TVB]

I'd say they could continue on with the boring, mundane lives of Arlen. I just hope they tie-in Bless the Harts with its Mega Lo Mart lore (and maybe Hulu continuing on with Bless the Harts while we're at it?).