Executive Order 2023.02 (henceforth "NIGHTMARE WORLD WHERE FACT AND FICTION COEXIST")

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Anyone got anything funny they want to hear josh say?
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The first anime I ever saw was "Revolutionary Girl Utena" the movie. I was attracted to it because it was bizarre and new. It hit me at a vulnerable time; my father and mother had just been murdered. I became obsessed with the "emptiness inside" theme of the movie, and felt that this related to my life somehow. I watched Evangelion next, and absolutely loved the depressing feeling both of these shows left me with. I am a person who loves depressions; I feel that I am at my most creative and "raw" when utterly depressed. The empty feeling these shows gave me filled me with emotions I wanted to recapture.

Like an addict seeking another hit, I kept downloading more and more programs, watching tons of shows. At one point, I had two shoeboxes full of CD-r's packed with Anime programs. I had a library of just about every show ever made. I became obsessive, but I wasn't finding that feeling that was originally there. Sure, I could recapture it with great stuff like Serial Experiments: Lain and Millenium actress, but that was only for a moment.

Eventually, I stopped watching the shows I was downloading, but just grabbed them for the sake of having them. I had to have more. I bought DVD's and didn't watch them. Gradually, over time, I felt my aesthetic become warped. What once was strange and bizarre looking character design became familiar; I sought it out. If I caught a glimpse of an anime style character in real life, I felt a rush; almost as if my hindbrain saw it before I was aware of it. I was visiting a Japanese tea Garden and saw real life schoolgirls in the familiar navy blue fuku uniforms. I was fascinated by them; I was drawn, attracted, but not in a sexual way; it blew my mind to see something in real life that I had before seen only in the abstract.

A familiar feeling came through me when I saw them. I felt the same at that moment as when I had first seen Utena, when I had first finished Evangelion. My obsession took a new direction.

I bought several sailor fuku uniforms from online retailers. J-list was too expensive and didn't sell in the size I desired. I had to have the legitimate stuff. At first it was satisfying to just look at the uniforms. I would keep them clean, iron them, and hang them up every day. The ritual was soothing to me.

Sooner or later I had to do it. I had to wear the uniforms I had treasured. I am proud to report that it took me a few months to break down, to really cross the threshold into utter depravity. After that line had been crossed, though, there was no going back. Tentatively, I started by simply wearing the uniforms around the house. I would wake up very early, before anyone could glimpse at me from outside on the street, and simply do my cleaning and cooking wearing the various uniforms I purchased. I got a matching apron. I would pretend I was getting ready for Japanese High school.

Soon, though, wearing the uniform in private was not enough. I purchased a duster trenchcoat and began walking through town wearing my outfit. Nobody knew, and this made me comfortable. But, again, this soon became insufficient to satisfy my obsession.

I began stalking this girl I knew, Sarah. I checked out her routines; when she left for work, when she got back, what time she went to bed. At first I furtively ventured into her place with my uniform under my trench coat while she was away. I knew where her spare key was because I had helped her move earlier. Speaking of this, I'm a pretty beefy guy. I weigh around 240-260 pounds, but I'm not that tall. A great friend to have if you need to move.

Anyway, gradually, I became more comfortable in her apartment. I started doing stuff like rolling around in her bed, stealing her underwear and putting it in little plastic bags, soforth. As you would expect, I became more and more comfortable doing this, and crossed a line. She came home unexpectedly one day, early from work. Panicked, I hid under the bed in my uniform. Immediately, as she came through the door, she spotted my trench coat. Lying under her bed, the sound of my heavy breathing seemed a thousand times louder than it actually was. I could hear her rooting through the trench coat, and could hear the wrinkling of celophane as she found my empty plastic bags. Thank god they didn't yet have her used underwear in them.

I put my sweaty, meaty hands together and prayed.

I heard her walking around the apartment. Thankfully, she didn't bring anyone with her. My mind was flashing; the excitement had triggered my epilepsy. Suddenly, I was barraged with memories from my first anime program, revolutionary girl utena. I heard her walking around some more, and then sit down on the bed. I saw her clothes come off and hit the floor in front of me. During this time I was controlling myself and having a minor epileptic fit. I could see transformation sequences from anime programs I had watched. It was all coming together; the near hallucinations, the girl in the bed above me, and most of all, my sweaty fuku uniform.

She approached the bathroom and got into the shower. She turned on the water. I was convinced that this was the one moment I had been searching for. This was my chance to cross over into the other world described in Utena; the fabric of reality was thin. I could taste it. In many of my anime programs I had seen the seemingly normal characters, like me, enter into a world of magic and joy.

I rolled out from under the bed and bounded into the bathroom. She saw my large form approaching through the glass of the shower and started screaming. I was having epileptic flashes; the screaming sounded just like "KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH" I was having trouble walking, my steps staggered. I couldn't feel the floor. My meaty hands slammed the shower door open, but she sprayed me with a jet of water. The water triggered another fit and I seized, falling into the bath. She tripped and fell on top of me. As she was screaming and my blood filled the bath, it swirled around reality, and intermingled in my mind. Her screams, the blood, my sweat, the uniform, Japan, schoolgirls, magic, tragedy, terror, and hope all become one to me. For one moment, I could taste it. The anime reality. It was here, like a precious jewel perched between my meaty, sweaty pectorals. And then, gone.

SO yeah I like anime
 
I have no patience to wade through 10 pages of pure shitposts but I want to point out one thing: it is very often the lolcow themselves who posts AI-generated deep fakes, and we archivists might inadvertently repost them on KF. I know we need to have a certain degree of suspicion, but we are not foolproof. So, @Null, do you give us leniency when this happens?
If you look at Dear Feeder's post, only knowingly posting AI/ML content without attributing is a ban.
 
Man i wish one of the sites doing the AI voice just does a chart that shows the top terms people used in their AI Voice requests. You know the gamer world will be at the top!

Also, I remember hearing a few days ago that one of the sites apologizes for the edgy things people are making from it and are working on restraining the AI. Is that even possible to do?
 
Man i wish one of the sites doing the AI voice just does a chart that shows the top terms people used in their AI Voice requests. You know the gamer world will be at the top!

Also, I remember hearing a few days ago that one of the sites apologizes for the edgy things people are making from it and are working on restraining the AI. Is that even possible to do?
filtered AI is actually the norm in big corpo AI. They'll just make it retarded and also unable to think about bad things. The fact that Eleven hasn't yet is honestly stunning.
 
the only solution is to be paranoid and privacy obsessed. avoid social media in general, avoid cameras and microphones that are trying to record you, do not post image/video/audio material to the internet.
I agree to an extent, however the issue with this mostly becomes that giving out your voice isn't really something most people even think needs to be watched out for. It also doesn't help people who may be public speakers or singers, and are required to publicly give out their voice for their job. As I'll elaborate on further down below, it also becomes borderline impossible to ensure nobody close to you ever obtains a recording of your voice. I don't know if going full hermit schizo is the best way to handle any potentially dangerous new tech development, but yeah ensuring you have good opsec will always ALWAYS help you out when stuff like this happens.
You example has my gears spinning with the potential problem's this might cause in more intimate matters like personal vendettas. I can see someone trying to fuck over someone they know without having any kind of motive beyond harming them.

I'm glad I don't have any audio out there of me talking but realistically if someone you know wanted to do this the fake would only have to be as good as whatever shitty audio source it's being passed of as, a phone call recording would work in most cases.
This is my biggest concern with this technology. The way I see it, public figures like politicians are ironically safer from this type of thing because everyone already knows that there are plenty of bad actors who will go to crazy lengths to frame Biden or Trump for potentially bad behavior. There's already a healthy layer of skepticism there (for the most part). But when it comes to random personal feuds between nobodies? What if Shaniqua and Tyrone go through a nasty breakup, and Shaniqua finds out about this brand new AI voice technology, than makes a convincing clip of Tyrone threatening to rape her? What's Tyrone gonna do? "I didn't say that!" If he doesn't know about this shit than he now has no real argument against it. Or hey, here's a good one. Imagine two embittered siblings arguing over who gets what in the will. What if Sibling A grabs an old family video he has of their parents, and uses it to fake a voice clip where that now deceased parent entrusts everything to him? How does Sibling B retaliate? If the person you're mimicking isn't even alive to dispute it than suddenly things get a whole lot gayer. I also fail to see how good opsec can save you in an instance like this. All these people close to you would need is one phone call, public speech or recorded conversation and they can make you say whatever they want.

Now, sure, these may just seem like fear-mongering hypotheticals. And to an extent, they are. I came up with these two scenarios off the top of my head. I'm not a lawfag so I don't know how the legal disputes here would be carried out if these fake AI clips were to be used as evidence. I think as time goes on and this shit becomes common knowledge, though, we'll ironically have to worry about it less. A previous poster made a good point about Photoshop and the expectations of faked photos we have now. I think this is similar. As time goes on, people will learn of AI voice mimicking and learn to be skeptical. But between now, and the point where this shit really begins to blow up and non-tech enthusiast normies begin to hear about it? That's going to be the scariest period, I think.

If you want to protect yourself from AI voice gayops, I think ultimately the best thing you can do is inform people. Tell your friends and your family, even if they don't know or care much about tech. That way, if anything happens in the future, you'll be able to point back to it. What makes this technology scary really isn't the fact that there are some extremely specific circumstances where it could be used maliciously. It's the fact that by virtue of its mere existence you can now not trust standalone audio clips of anyone speaking at all.
as if everything on the television hasn't already been total bullshit for generations.
True, but it doesn't have to be just on the television. Hell, a lot of people already don't trust TV or the news networks. Faith from the American populace in mainstream media has been slowly draining for years despite the retardation we see online. Many (not all) people are trained now not to trust anything you hear from the likes of CNN or NBC on the TV. On the contrary, how many of those same people have been trained to be completely skeptical of literally any voice recording of anybody? That's where the real issue lies.
 
filtered AI is actually the norm in big corpo AI. They'll just make it retarded and also unable to think about bad things. The fact that Eleven hasn't yet is honestly stunning.
All you gotta do is make the AI say things that vaguely sound offensive and aren't and then splice it together on your own if the day where specific words get blocked ever comes.
 
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Anyone got anything funny they want to hear josh say?
I'm amazed its gone on this long without any null-palpatine order 66 on the troons clips tbh

That said, as has already been pointed out, lots of cows are going to latch on to AI fakes to claim anything they said is just fake AI no matter how obvious it is that its real. Its pretty much obvious cow behavior that should be expected. Hell lots of them do it now
 
Potentially unpopular opinion: I hope all this AI, ML, deepfake stuff gets outlawed completely.
While it seems fun to mess around with, I see no applicable use of this technology that isn’t outright malicious.

And how would you do that without basically outlawing computers entirely?

Even if Google made something like this available as a plugin, it would just create an arms race where you test your creations against the filter until it's good enough to fool it. Known as "adversarial machine learning".


I'm sure that I heard you say you loved the Antichrist.


ElevenLabs can't capture the gravelly shit quality of Josh's voice. He's safe for another... 6 months. Hold onto your papers, fellow scholars.


In the dystopian future computers will be strictly controlled based on capability or have mandatory frontdoor style spyware installed, a real government "fuck you" beyond the management engines schizos worry about. In particular, neuromorphic computers will be controlled to prevent unauthorized creation of "Strong AI". Big Tech will be allowed to use them, of course.
There's only one way out of this. The time has come for the Butlerian Jihad:
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Anybody know some bloke where I can buy some spice btw?

the Chinese could deepfake Joe Biden declaring war on Russia and send it to Moscow, maybe deepfake Putin doing the same thing and send that to Washington too.
Already happened (I have secret intel that this is @AgendaPoster 's ringtone and daily alarm):
 
Imagine the video game mods
That's actually a positive I hadn't considered. There are all sorts of applications for stuff like this - people who are already good at video editing will be able to just AI-generate their own tracks of those guys with the deep voices who do trailer voice-overs and be virtually indistinguishable from professional Hollywood releases.

It'll be a real boon to anybody who creates stuff independently.
 
That's actually a positive I hadn't considered. There are all sorts of applications for stuff like this - people who are already good at video editing will be able to just AI-generate their own tracks of those guys with the deep voices who do trailer voice-overs and be virtually indistinguishable from professional Hollywood releases.

It'll be a real boon to anybody who creates stuff independently.
It could actually be pretty cool for anybody who makes fan content for already established franchises, actually. Imagine being able to insert the voice of a character from another game and have that work as their voice in your own creation. Neat stuff.

Of course, the same "fuck corporations and capitalism" troon Twittards are bitching that doing so automatically makes your work not worth considering as art because "it impedes on actual VAs", but they bitch about literally everything so no big surprise there.
 
I'd like to remind everyone that you're all being recorded by your smartphones and by just about every other communicative device with a microphone you speak near. This was thoroughly exposed and proven true the better part of a decade ago and was quickly memory-holed.

The ruling tribe obtained all of their power via blackmail, most notably when they infiltrated the Church and invented the confession booth. They have never changed these tactics because people have always been stupid enough in many ways to keep them working almost flawlessly. Now it's become effortless for just about any first world target, meaning you no longer need to be big enough to blip their radar for them to find it worthwhile to fuck with you. There's a zero percent chance of there being less than a few people, groups, organizations and governments gunning for these recording banks for these newly-broadened purposes.

Our "justice system" is now going to have carte blanche cherrypicking on who to hand a free pass and who to condemn, just by saying a fake is real or a real recording is a fake. Everyone against the tribe's agenda is pretty much fucked now in that regard.
 
Has anyone tried using this tool on non-english speakers? I'm curious if it's only limited to the English language.
It only works with english and it doesn't handle a lot of heavier accents too well. You can put other languages or heavy accented english in, but it'll just spit out a typical american or british english speaker that has a similar tone.
 
Our "justice system" is now going to have carte blanche cherrypicking on who to hand a free pass and who to condemn, just by saying a fake is real or a real recording is a fake. Everyone against the tribe's agenda is pretty much fucked now in that regard.
Didn't eleven say they were able to reverse match audio generated by their AI with the person who created it? So it's this private entity that would have that ability. Which seems even worse.
 
How would you even legislate this ?

It's only a matter of time before this can be done on a private system and you won't be able to track the origins of audio that originated like that without essentially upending the internet as it currently exists.
Give it 10, 20 years at the most, and deep fakes will literally be indistinguishable from the real thing. I imagine governments will start intervening by then and try to regulate AI. The future is here, and it is terrifying.
how? it's already created and deployed, nobody can put that genie back in the bottle.

Reminds me of the old Isaac Asimov short story, The Dead Past (1956). With the government trying to protect the masses from a certain technology, but after the knowledge of how to create it at home finally disseminates, it is viewed as impossible to contain and the G-man assigned to round the fuckers up gives up and tells them all to fuck off.

"... It's too late. What kind of a world we'll have from now on, I don't know, I can't tell, but the world we know has been destroyed completely. Until now, every custom, every habit, every tiniest way of life has always taken a certain amount of privacy for granted, but that's all gone now."
He saluted each of the three with elaborate formality.
"You have created a new world among the three of you. I congratulate you. Happy goldfish bowl to you, to me, to everyone, and may each of you fry in hell forever..."

Happy goldfish bowl to all of us indeed.
 
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