Debate user 'SpergioLeonne' on if sex with your own pregnant wife is pedophilia

[SpergioLeonne]

I was taking my time to put my thoughts down so I didn't see the thread had been moved before posting, Apologies.

Not necessary to apologize.

You're being too concrete in your thinking. She won't want/need sex as badly when the baby is born because you're both going to be so tired during that time anyhow. She'll want you to do what you can to keep them both housed / fed and then give an extra 150% to take some burden off her shoulders so she can sleep between feedings. Barring that, ask her what she wants and she'll tell you.

Your entire perspective puts the needs of the woman at 100% and the needs of the man at 0%.

In this case, the only need I’m stating is not to be manipulated or harangued or whatever else into having sex that I’m uncomfortable with.

You think the only at risk outcome is whether my wife leaves me. I don’t see that as something at risk at all.

Shouldn't we be more focused on bullying the catgril anime avi instead of taking on Sergio Leone brave horse ridah?!?

Idk, but I think Rekieta not being into pregnant women is the most wholesome thing he has going

 

[Schwarzwald]

I don't really have any strong opinions here and can actually see where you're coming from, but it's hilarious to me how passionate you are about defending this. Most people would say their piece and fuck off, but not you. No, sir. Gotta flail your arms around and sperg out.

I appreciate the dedication to your values and point of view.

 

[Lidl Drip]

This nigga is like "noooo sex with my pregnant wife is making me uncomfy" while he goes to beat off to MLP porn instead.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

I don't really have any strong opinions here and can actually see where you're coming from, but it's hilarious to me how passionate you are about defending this. Most people would say their piece and fuck off, but not you. No, sir. Gotta flail your arms around and sperg out.

I appreciate the dedication to your values and point of view.

Idk, maybe I’m a covert assburger and didn’t realize it.

There’s kind of something extra in this, though, cause I tried to look up studies to see what percentage of guys are into pregnant women, and I couldn’t find anything but some recent-ish Scandinavian study that seemed sketch and specifically polled porn users.

Pregnancy was historically categorized as a fetish category, right? That would imply that it wasn’t a “held by a majority” thing.

Why does it seem like only within the past couple years, it got turned into “no, by default you’re supposed to be attracted to pregnant women”?

If anyone can show me that I’m outside of the mainstream with this, I’ll admit I’m weird and that I pity my wife for putting up with me.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Not necessary to apologize.

Your entire perspective puts the needs of the woman at 100% and the needs of the man at 0%.

In this case, the only need I’m stating is not to be manipulated or harangued or whatever else into having sex that I’m uncomfortable with.

You think the only at risk outcome is whether my wife leaves me. I don’t see that as something at risk at all.

Idk, but I think Rekieta not being into pregnant women is the most wholesome thing he has going

I'm not putting the needs of the woman at 100%, I'm saying that your need to not have sex with your wife during her third trimester doesn't outweigh the risks present if you neglect her.

Her leaving you didn't actually enter my thoughts. If she's unhappy with you, you have to deal with the fall out of it especially if you're both fully committed and divorce is off the table. Have you talked to your wife about this concern yet? My answer of "suck it up and go have fun with your wife" won't change, but @AgendaPoster is right, I'm just an anime avatar who deserves to be bullied and have no investment in what you end up doing.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Idk, maybe I’m a covert assburger and didn’t realize it.

There’s kind of something extra in this, though, cause I tried to look up studies to see what percentage of guys are into pregnant women, and I couldn’t find anything but some recent-ish Scandinavian study that seemed sketch and specifically polled porn users.

Pregnancy was historically categorized as a fetish category, right? That would imply that it wasn’t a “held by a majority” thing.

Why does it seem like only within the past couple years, it got turned into “no, by default you’re supposed to be attracted to pregnant women”?

If anyone can show me that I’m outside of the mainstream with this, I’ll admit I’m weird and that I pity my wife for putting up with me.

You are literally retarded if you don't think men have been having sex with their pregnant wife's for all of eternity. It's not a fetish to have sex with your wife.

 

[ITK]

@SpergioLeonne Don't listen to them, you are 100% in the right and they're probably trying to make your kid gay or something. Remain strong, my sweet prince.

 

[draggs]

This is doing a good job of persuading me spergio in fact does not have children, is not married, and possibly is an incelerino

 

[Schwarzwald]

If anyone can show me that I’m outside of the mainstream with this, I’ll admit I’m weird and that I pity my wife for putting up with me.

I will say this. When I was in my early teenage years and first hitting puberty, I remember having almost the exact same thoughts as you with regard to having sex with a pregnant woman. I couldn't imagine having sex with any pregnant woman, as the thought was disgusting to me. I found the woman both unattractive (I still don't exactly find pregnant women attractive), and the thought of the child in there was troubling.

After having grown up and genuinely fallen in love, I can't imagine not being willing to have sex with my pregnant wife. Even if she gained 100 pounds or was a burn victim, I would still love her and stay with her, and would put aside my own needs for hers. A woman putting herself through Hell for nine months, hormones driving her insane, constant sickness, and giving you the ultimate compliment and vote of confidence in creating new life with you and entrusting it to you? A woman more precious to you than anything else in the world who has chosen you as her partner in life? It says something about you if you can't set aside your short-term disinterest for the emotional and physical needs of your wife for a few months. Your relationship will be better for it in the long run, it will still feel good, and it's still the woman that you love. She's doing you a great deal of favors by carrying a pregnancy, you can do her that small favor, I think.

I also believe that you're looking a bit too deeply into the whole "fetishizing pregnant women" thing. That's something separate from being willing to sleep with your own pregnant wife.

 

[cherrysour]

I think it gets a little weird right at the end of the third trimester when the cervix has dilated a bit. Women can walk around at 2 cm for days before labor. At that point, you can reach up and touch the baby's head with your fingers. So a gentleman of the larger persuasion will, and I say this literally, be tapping the baby's head (through the amniotic sac, but still) with the head of his D during sex. Not to mention what he'll do ON the baby's head as a grand finale.

In conclusion, it's fine until dilation, at which point you're liable to give the kid a stutter.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

If anyone can show me that I’m outside of the mainstream with this, I’ll admit I’m weird and that I pity my wife for putting up with me.

It's by the grace of God that women don't throw all of us out on the curb for some of the stupid shit we do. On the flip side, it's by the grace of God that we can look at the emotional bundle of insanity that is a woman and still say, "yeah, I like that about her".

 

[Procrastinhater]

Christ how did this end up as a debate thread?

 

[SpergioLeonne]

I will say this. When I was in my early teenage years and first hitting puberty, I remember having almost the exact same thoughts as you with regard to having sex with a pregnant woman. I couldn't imagine having sex with any pregnant woman, as the thought was disgusting to me. I found the woman both unattractive (I still don't exactly find pregnant women attractive), and the thought of the child in there was troubling.

After having grown up and genuinely fallen in love, I can't imagine not being willing to have sex with my pregnant wife. Even if she gained 100 pounds or was a burn victim, I would still love her and stay with her, and would put aside my own needs for hers. A woman putting herself through Hell for nine months, hormones driving her insane, constant sickness, and giving you the ultimate compliment and vote of confidence in creating new life with you and entrusting it to you? A woman more precious to you than anything else in the world who has chosen you as her partner in life? It says something about you if you can't set aside your short-term disinterest for the emotional and physical needs of your wife for a few months. Your relationship will be better for it in the long run, it will still feel good, and it's still the woman that you love. She's doing you a great deal of favors by carrying a pregnancy, you can do her that small favor, I think.

I also believe that you're looking a bit too deeply into the whole "fetishizing pregnant women" thing. That's something separate from being willing to sleep with your own pregnant wife.

There’s a level of detail that I’m not comfortable going into, but I will vaguepost that it’s a mistake if people think I’m advocating spousal neglect or that I’m not willing to engage in any form of intimacy.

It’s like I said on the surface, I am not overtly attracted specifically to the form of late stage pregnancy women, and I am actively uncomfortable with the baby being right in there. And I’m legitimately very surprised by how contrary that seems to the main body of kiwis. At first I thought I was dealing with some Rekieta fan degeneracy and was dismissing it as that.

I'm not putting the needs of the woman at 100%, I'm saying that your need to not have sex with your wife during her third trimester doesn't outweigh the risks present if you neglect her.

Her leaving you didn't actually enter my thoughts. If she's unhappy with you, you have to deal with the fall out of it especially if you're both fully committed and divorce is off the table. Have you talked to your wife about this concern yet? My answer of "suck it up and go have fun with your wife" won't change, but @AgendaPoster is right, I'm just an anime avatar who deserves to be bullied and have no investment in what you end up doing.

There’s really a problem here in that you seem to be assuming a lot of things. In good faith, I’m letting you know that paraphrasing different ways of calling me a bad husband is really coming off as gaslighting/trolling.

The vector changes in each reply iteration, but the thrust remains constant

 

[draggs]

There’s a level of detail that I’m not comfortable going into, but I will vaguepost that it’s a mistake if people think I’m advocating spousal neglect or that I’m not willing to engage in any form of intimacy.

It’s like I said on the surface, I am not overtly attracted specifically to the form of late stage pregnancy women, and I am actively uncomfortable with the baby being right in there. And I’m legitimately very surprised by how contrary that seems to the main body of kiwis. At first I thought I was dealing with some Rekieta fan degeneracy and was dismissing it as that.


There’s really a problem here in that you seem to be assuming a lot of things. In good faith, I’m letting you know that paraphrasing different ways of calling me a bad husband is really coming off as gaslighting/trolling.

The vector changes in each reply iteration, but the thrust remains constant

I don't think anyone is advocating getting down in the last 4-6 weeks of pregnancy. Or the first few weeks after birth. If they are yes that is kinda weird and any doctor would tell you that it's not medically recommended

 

[Mellow Malevolent]

What if she's just a fatty?

 

[Lady Rackets Ass]

I don't think anyone is advocating getting down in the last 4-6 weeks of pregnancy. Or the first few weeks after birth. If they are yes that is kinda weird and any doctor would tell you that it's not medically recommended

no fuck you im plowing her until she’s in the delivery room

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

In conclusion, it's fine until dilation, at which point you're liable to give the kid a stutter.

When your wife is yelling at you to have sex with her because she's sick of being pregnant and her labor is late and she doesn't want a C-section, you do what you have to do and deal with your mental trauma later in private.

There’s really a problem here in that you seem to be assuming a lot of things. In good faith, I’m letting you know that paraphrasing different ways of calling me a bad husband is really coming off as gaslighting/trolling.

I guess that'll teach me for attempting to share what I thought was good advice fueled by experience. Not once have I called you a bad husband chiefly because I don't know who you are. There's a pothole that exists in every man's marriage and it's better not to step in it. This isn't even that big of a pothole, just a common one. You don't have to listen to me, this won't be the be-all, end-all of your relationship, and if you decide to ignore me it won't make you a bad husband.

I'll quit bothering you, I hope you get a hangnail.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

I don't think anyone is advocating getting down in the last 4-6 weeks of pregnancy. Or the first few weeks after birth. If they are yes that is kinda weird and any doctor would tell you that it's not medically recommended

Ok, this is a big point. I tried to clarify that I’m talking about third trimester.

First trimester, nothing shows except things like hormones making the breasts fuller. No problem there, and I totally get how if THAT is what you’re calling pregnant, it’s probably a bonus.

Second trimester is where it changes and I’m not trying to shut my wife down, but towards the end it’s starting to be of concern.

Third trimester, the wife is having her pelvis split at the cartilage joint to make room for passage, everything hurts all the time, there’s a giant, obvious baby right there, etc etc etc.

You’d be surprised what the doctors recommend these days. There’s even a community of people preaching about “orgasmic birth,” or that a pregnant woman will magically have a painless birth if she can mentally make herself get off to birthing.

 

[FuckedUpDeer]

Idgaf. This is my hill to die on.

Holy shit, you're literally retarded.

 

[FuckedUpDeer]

"Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew, baby in tummy make me uncomfy, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!"