Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month

My dad is being forced to install this fucking trash on his PC cause his shit is all from Dell and he can't use Linux even if he wanted to cause his work requires a bunch of proprietary software shit that is all windows based and focused.

Feel sorry for the old man.
 
Me coming back into this thread after a couple days:

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Holy shit, stop getting mad about other people's operating systems. I like Linux more too, but you're making me look bad by being associated with you lol.

Part of the reason I like Linux in the first place and dislike a lot of big tech bullshit is I feel I should be able to do what I want with my own computer. By that same logic, it's their computer, they can have Windows on it if they want. How can you say you believe in free as in freedom computing and not also argue that someone is free to use whatever operating system they want?

Autism. Not even once.
 
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I'm actually leaning toward putting in the gruntwork to have a base, lightweight terminal driven linux OS be the top level that launches several virtual machines, but I'm not entirely sold on the idea yet. I may just dual or even tri boot it.
Qubes OS may interest you. May be too extreme as its main focus is security.
 
Lol, more OS slapfighting. No surprise. Linux has made huge leaps over what it used to be, but if your software doesn't work with it, don't use it. If you want to try it out, simply follow an online guide to dual booting or trial it on a live distro via usb. If you like how it works, earmark a little more time to get a bit under the hood. Tinker with it. I recommend doing this on a live instance, since it won't actually fuck anything up on your actual hardware. Ignore the purists who tell you to go back to windows and just search for relevant info about it. Linux is an incredible OS once you get the hang of it, but to repeat myself, don't use it daily if the programs you want to use like some DAW and Adobe products, for the easiest example, just don't work on it. I have no idea why anyone would even try, although it's true that you can use a VM to run a complete instance of windows within linux if your hardware is capable of it. You may still run into strange issues, and if that's the case, just run them native in windows or ignore linux totally. Easy distros like Debian or Fedora will be fine windows alternatives if the user in question doesn't mind spending minimal time poking around for 10 minutes or so if all they want to do is fuck around on the internet or send an email. To me, if that's all you're going to do, you may as well just use a phone anymore though.

Use the machine you have in the most efficient and easiest way that works for you, there's no reason in my mind to get all up in arms over the way someone else uses a computer. Being an OSfag is about as pointless as being a consolefag.

To get into the actual thread topic, it's anyone's guess whether the Saas model Microsoft is pushing for will actually hold up over time. It's insanely intrusive, although easy enough to block with a common router based hardware firewall, but most people don't know how to do that, if they even know what a firewall is. I'll resist win11 for a while, just like every new M$ OS, until it matures some and people figure out how to get around it's bullshit and shortcomings. I've recently built a new 13th gen intel based desktop, and I'm still considering how to play the OS game. I'm actually leaning toward putting in the gruntwork to have a base, lightweight terminal driven linux OS be the top level that launches several virtual machines, but I'm not entirely sold on the idea yet. I may just dual or even tri boot it.


It's heresy to suggest but you could actually also use multiple machines I'm not sure why it has to be one or the other. Linux runs snappy and just fine on "business class" chipsets that are being tossed/scrapped/recycled left by the curbside every single day. You may even find yourself a Windows 7 POS key.

Then you have one machine for your vidya and "Windows telemetry dildo" referenced earlier in the thread, and another to use to reign supreme with Mint or Ubuntu to let the Window sodomites know your skills are as serious as they are immense.

But what fun is that.
 
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Me coming back into this thread after a couple days:

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Holy shit, stop getting mad about other people's operating systems. I like Linux more too, but you're making me look bad by being associated with you lol.

Part of the reason I like Linux in the first place and dislike a lot of big tech bullshit is I feel I should be able to do what I want with my own computer. By that same logic, it's their computer, they can have Windows on it if they want. How can you say you believe in free as in freedom computing and not also argue that someone is free to use whatever operating system they want?

Autism. Not even once.
Man I came to this thread after being nagged by my computer to update, instinctively saying no, hoping to see what people think of Windows 11/why they aren't upgrading.

You'd think from the fucking content of the thread people were getting a notification "UPGRADE TO LINUX" every time they turn on their machine.

Anyway, to add to the thread rather than complaining about it, I feel that everything about life seems to be subtly drifting towards a "real false dichotomy". Either you can buy something that takes all your rights as a consumer away or make it from scratch yourself in your backyard. That's a false dichotomy, the products I buy don't need to totally fuck me over, but it's real because I feel like the third options just get acquired and assimilated by our increasingly Weyland-Yutani tier world. Compare working on cars now to working on vehicles from the same companies 30 years ago.

Anyway anyway, I'm not "upgrading" to 11 because everything is working perfectly fine for my purposes as it is, motherfuckers!
 
Anyway anyway, I'm not "upgrading" to 11 because everything is working perfectly fine for my purposes as it is, motherfuckers!
For now. If the current trend continues, you're going to need a 10 Ghz 32-core processor and 256 gig of RAM to view a simple text-and-pictures news article in a web browser five years from now.

And it still won't scroll smoothly.
 
Ahem... that's just a flimsy rationalization to continue being a Micro$hill and your dad is clearly too stupid to run glorious Linux anyway.

Did I do it right, Linuxbros?
All right, I'll take the obvious bait. I'll respond with something I already posted.
That's a fair justification for using Windows. I understand there's lots of, for example, lab computers and industrial computers that run software with only one vendor supplying the software and you need to buy them in a bundle as a turnkey solution. But people in this thread a belly aching about Adobe Photoshop or some similar application. But like I said, I've given up on people using Linux for desktop and honestly I don't want your average Linux Tech Tips user entering the platform and trying to "improve" the platform for normies while making serious work more tedious

For all this bloviating about how Linux is unstable, unfinished, and you can't do anything productive on it (I do, daily. As does MicroShaft on their Azure servers) I see very few people providing real examples of software that either has no Linux parallel or cannot run on Linux.

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> You're just shilling. You're a fanboi. You're too autistic to see the use cases where Linux doesn't work.
I've acknowledge in this post and before that Linux isn't suited for some users. My initial post in this thread (I'm not going to quote myself another time) was a basically warning the Linux community that trying to bring Windows users onboard is waste of time. You might think you've "won the argument" in some feeble minded way. But if you actually follow the thread of my posts; you've actually proven my argument far better than I could have on my own. I will continue to get a great deal of enjoyment and humor from this discussion. And reference back to it far into the future.
 
You might think you've "won the argument" in some feeble minded way. But if you actually follow the thread of my posts; you've actually proven my argument far better than I could have on my own.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand @Samuel Hyde 's posts. The arguments are extremely subtle and without a solid grasp of Gentoo Linux most of the points will go over a typical user's head.

I will continue to get a great deal of enjoyment and humor from this discussion. And reference back to it far into the future.
I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as @Samuel Hyde 's genius unfolds itself on their Surface tablets. What fools... how I pity them.
 
Everyone is a professional photographer AND AutoCAD designer AND a pro gamer playing that one Windows-only game when it comes to actually switching.
Actually yes. Get me Solidworks, Lightroom, and Photoshop, please.
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If someone says it will work for most home PC users and you have a really specific use case involving your hobby or work, you're probably not included in "Most users."
"Most users" just use their phone or a tablet. PC users are ALL some form of hobbyist enthusiast, or professional nowadays. And if you don't have a specific use case, you're probably ok with the Win11 bullshit.
 
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The arguments are extremely subtle
Let me concisely restate my first post.

Linux users: teaching Windows users how to install Linux or creating another bash tutorial is a waste of time. No matter how easy we make installing Linux, no matter how many virtual machines users can choose from, no matter how similar the look and feel, Windows users will ultimately still spread their ass cheeks to MicroShaft and say "OK, I don't want to use the 'Anal Probe-u-lator 666' for rectal print scanning. But there's no way to disable biometric login on Windows 13 and they won't let me finish installing until I've finished this step.'

Just look at how the Windows users behave. 26 pages into the conversation, dozens if not over a hundred posters, literally thousands of words, and hardly any posts about how to disable the features people dislike about Windows 11. The only discussion about alternatives is "Sure, the majority of Fortune 500 companies use Linux to run business critical applications. But I'm a PoWeR uSeR and it definitely can't do what I want it to do. I know because some sperg on the internet tried 10 years ago and posted in some obscure message board back then."
 
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