Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Your argument is punctured by the counterexample of thriving cultural, political, social, and economic conditions of Transnistria compared to its desolate neighbors

Absolutely, just look at the deep Orthodox Christian symbolism in their coat of arms.


Truly the defenders of Christian values against the globohomo.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I get that it's hard to compete with such successful NATO members as Bulgaria, Poland, and Romania, but I'd rather live in Kaliningrad than Plovdiv, thank you very much.

Look at that classic western architecture.

The Largest Gypsy Ghetto in Europe - Stolipinovo, Bulgaria - YOMADIC

Recently listed as the number one worse place on the planet to take a short vacation, Stolipinovo is a shocking parallel world that defies belief.

yomadic.com

Now look at this depressing Russian enclave.


I'll avoid posting photos of Poland to spare the feelings of the resident Pollacks.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Why is Germany stockpiling gold and not dollars?

...
Gold reserves of Germoney: near 3500 tonnes. 175% of ruzzkie reserves.
Forex reserves of Germoney: 277 B of USD.
Forex reserves of ruzzia: 597 B of USD (but some amount of this is, uhm, frozen).

Not sure, but the only one who is hoarding paper bills is ruzzia. Also, funfact: forex reserves are calculated without currency used in country internaly.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

...
Gold reserves of Germoney: near 3500 tonnes. 175% of ruzzkie reserves.
Forex reserves of Germoney: 277 B of USD.
Forex reserves of ruzzia: 597 B of USD (but some amount of this is, uhm, frozen).

Not sure, but the only one who is hoarding paper bills is ruzzia. Also, funfact: forex reserves are calculated without currency used in country internaly.

First of all, citation needed on all of those numbers. And you're wrong (yet again, surprise surprise) about Russia. China by far holds the biggest number of US dollars, definitely not to weaponize them against the US economy or anything.

Second, you did not answer my question. Why is Germany not stockpiling dollars, but instead choosing to stockpile gold? It's really not that hard of a question. Try to think in a forward-looking manner. Do you stockpile assets that are projected to grow in the future, or that are projected to fall in the future?

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Why is Germany not stockpiling dollars, but instead choosing to stockpile gold?

They are "stockpilling" (cleary you didn't get what is reserve) both foreign currencies and gold.

First of all, citation needed on all of those numbers.

https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country it was linked at least one time.

but I'd rather live in Kaliningrad than Plovdiv, thank you very much.

Av. salary in Bulgaria: 22,5 thousand USD//year
Av. salary in ruzzia: 16,5 thousand USD/year

Well, if someone like to be poor.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

They are "stockpilling" (cleary you didn't get what is reserve) both foreign currencies and gold.


https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country it was linked at least one time.

That link is clearly not what I'm asking for, I'm asking for a citation on all your foreign currency gibberish. For example, by how much exactly did Germany increase their $US reserves recently?

My point is that Germany is increasing their gold reserves at a much higher rate than their $US reserves. Do you understand why that is happening?

 

[870EVO]

"A bit"

Yeah okay. The Leo 2 has been out for how long, now? Nowhere near the same capability. Might as well start calling those "modernized" M60s modern MBTs aswell. The thing is still tissue paper as far as modern MBTs are concerned.

The only people coping are the people who act like Ukraine getting 2nd and 3rd rate hand me downs is anything more than the West telling Ukraine "Oh yeah guys, we totally have your backs. We'll get those Russians out of Crimea aaanyday now" while pocketing the cash.

Wait they sent Ukraine the actual Leopard 1? Like the tank that was designed back when military doctrine was "due to advances in ballistics, armor is fucking useless, fuck armor" Like those Leopard 1's?

 

[Mr Bunny]

So, more important than which side is winning the war, which side in this thread is winning the debate?

Rabbits. Less humans mean more lebensraum for my great great grandchildren.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Leopard 1s are shit, but okay. They can have fun with the garbage.

Its armor is only rated to 20mm so it's going to have the same issue as the Bradley which is that almost everything there can kill it pretty easily.

 

[870EVO]

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1622922633263173637

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1623017121742462982

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

I'm asking for a citation on all your foreign currency gibberish.

1. Open that link.
2. Click the second table.

My point is that Germany is increasing their gold reserves at a much higher rate than their $US reserves.

They aren't. Can you give any source of this lunacy?

or example, by how much exactly did Germany increase their $US reserves recently?

So you REALLY didn't know how reserves work and for what purpose they serve.

Homework: try to catch difference how reserves are working in eurozone and why all countries have it in small numbers.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

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Kinda hard for them to remedy this. Honestly if it were me, I'd likely attempt to use some conscripts with rucksacks full of supplies to ferry shit in along the hedgerows. That's if it was absolutely necessary to hold the city. In reality though, it's pretty dumb that Ukraine didn't order a withdraw as soon as it was clear there was going to be an encirclement. Best thing to do now would be to order anyone too injured to fight to surrender, and while Russia is busy processing them as POWs try to have as many troops as possible sneak out of the city.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Its armor is only rated to 20mm so it's going to have the same issue as the Bradley which is that almost everything there can kill it pretty easily.

Yep, just another rolling coffin for Ukrainian mobiks to decorate with German iron crosses, fill up with Russian diesel purchased from India by EU taxpayers, and then promptly drive into a ditch and get destroyed by Russian artillery.

Also, time for a photoshop/caption contest.

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius arrived in Kyiv, where he met with Alexei Reznikov and presented him with a toy Leopard

Ньюсач/Двач

You can view and join @ru2ch_news right away.

t.me

I'll start. Too lazy to do the reflection, someone else can figure it out.
"Pistorius presents Reznikov with a gift of western values."

Spoiler: Exploitable

1. Open that link.
2. Click the second table.

Where does it show by how much German USD reserves grew from year to year? Not talking about general Forex reserves, but specifically USD.

They aren't. Can you give any source of this lunacy?

Just because you think it happened in your head, doesn't mean it actually did. Countries have been dumping their USD since this war began, and even before that, back when the US started printing money in 2021.

So you REALLY didn't know how reserves work and for what purpose they serve.

Homework: try to catch difference how reserves are working in eurozone and why all countries have it in small numbers.

Why am I not surprised that a Prishtina toilet cleaner doesn't understand basic concepts of economics and geopolitics, and therefore tries to avoid answering my question. That's fine, I know the answer already.

Homework: How much of that German gold reserve was actually kept in Germany, and how much was kept by the Anglos up until recently? What's the significance of the Germans repatriating their gold back?

 

[870EVO]

No, they didn't. "Golden african dinar" is hoax even dumber than amero.

The US and the UK in the past had the gold standard. So I don't understand your assertion that it's ludicrous and it will never happen again.

Now I don't much about finance, but it seems to make some common sense to me, that if you needed to get out from under the thumb of the US Dollar. You'd need some currency gold backed or maybe oil backed making it valuable to all the countries of the world simultaneously in order to compete and displace the US dollar. Since they can't compete purely on economic currency markets.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Meanwhile, German deindustrialization efforts are proceeding as planned, driven mainly by the lack of Russian resources, all thanks to their greatest ally, America.

Germany Economy and Energy News: February 4, 2023 - Bloomberg

archived 4 Feb 2023 08:25:56 UTC

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Guys, do you think Germans will start sending their migrant workers back to their shithole nations once there are no jobs and no industry left for them to mooch from?

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

Looks like hohols will be getting enough Leopards to equip 2 or 3 Western-size armored divisions, aka a full armored corps of 300-500 tanks. With Germany announcing they'll send 187, Poland sending 80, other Yerp countries sending smaller amounts, and now that Germany has made up its mind Poland will probably send more than the 80 it has pledged and the other countries will probably up their amounts as well. Looks like about 2/3 will be modernized Leopard 1s and the rest Leopard 2s

It will take them years to be an effective fighting force

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Where does it show by how much German USD reserves grew from year to year? Not talking about general Forex reserves, but specifically USD.

Again: you just didn't get how CB reserves are working.

Countries have been dumping their USD since this war began, and even before that, back when the US started printing money in 2021.

DXY (do you know what this is?) make a huge jump up from ~93 ~(january 2021) to 103 (today). And yes, this increase is solely resposible for "dumps" (white people call them "interventions") of other than FED central banks.

Just because you think it happened in your head, doesn't mean it actually did.

So you have no source for you thesis? Huh, why I'm not suprised?

Guys, do you think Germans will start sending their migrant workers back to their shithole nations once there are no jobs and no industry left for them to mooch from?

Probably some unlucky ones will be send back. In this week we sended another transport with illegal ruzzkies.

Saddly, we aren't using cattle waggons for that

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Again: you just didn't get how CB reserves are working.

DXY (do you know what this is?) make a huge jump up from ~93 ~(january 2021) to 103 (today). And yes, this increase is solely resposible for "dumps" (white people call them "interventions") of other than FED central banks.

So you have no source for you thesis? Huh, why I'm not suprised?


Probably some unlucky ones will be send back. In this week we sended another transport with illegal ruzzkies.

Saddly, we aren't using cattle waggons for that

Let me see if I understand you correctly.

You bragged that Germany has massive gold reserves, then in the next breath you said that gold is useless and no one is going to trade in it, and then when asked "why is Germany growing their gold reserves and not increasing their dollar reserves if gold is useless" you crapped yourself, posted an unrelated link, and now trying to obfuscate your seething by misusing technical jargon that you don't seem to understand yourself.

Yet then you admitted that the dollar was indeed being dumped by Germany, but it was totally all because of the DXY, right?

Tell me more how the DXY is the only reason why any country would dump USD. Not like countries have economists that can think ahead more than 15 minutes or anything. Also white people do say dump, as in "I'm gonna dump on this brown turklet like a Serb dropping bombs on Prishtina."

For some kino, a pair of T-90s unloading on Ukrainian positions near Novoselovskoe in LNR.

Kotsnews

⚡️ Огневая карусель от наших танков Т-90М уничтожения нацистов наши парни на этих кадрах ведут вблизи с поселком Новоселовское в ЛНР. @rtrdonetsk

t.me

 

[Kiwi Sneed Snake]

Seen this interesting article today, I think it might be the first time a UK news agency has spoke ill of the war!

Spoiler

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/putin-invaded-ukraine-west-military-weak-2134291

Mentions the cost of living crisis because of the conflict and a few other things including the UK running out of ammunition before Russia!!

Overall it's still got a pro Ukraine skew, but not with the same zest as the usual glory to Ukraine articles.

As Russia inches closer to victory and Ukraine closer to defeat I wonder just how much back pedalling will be done by the media to save face? How will they spin a Ukrainian defeat?
Of course they can rely on most people forgetting about it once the new big bad comes along I suppose...

Spoiler: Armour Sperg

Regarding the differences between models/marks ie A1,A2 etc. After the first few revision almost all following upgrade packages focus on improving communications/optics/sights etc as new systems become available over time. The actual offensive and defensive output of the vehicles is rarely improved (other than APS/ERA additions). So a Leopard 1A5 will be destroyed just as easily as an A3 model.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

The US and the UK in the past had the gold standard.

And it ended badly.

that if you needed to get out from under the thumb of the US Dollar. You'd need some currency gold backed or maybe oil backed making it valuable to all the countries of the world simultaneously in order to compete and displace the US dollar. Since they can't compete purely on economic currency markets.

Again: to have currency backed by anything you must have reserves of that thing. You must paid for storage of gold/oil (let's say they was hidden all this time in basement) and them find someone interested in using the new currency.

A lot of someones.

But let we say, we have a Imaginationstan which have a lot of gold (IDK, 20 thousand tonnes) and oil (so anyone can choose to take gold or oil in exchenge of his kewlcoins at wish), they printed their new currency, introduced it into all that fancy computer networks and now the real trouble begins: how force another people and institutions to take kewlcoins for their work or goods?

Some countries other than Imaginationstan will be interested to buy oil or gold, so they will wish to buy kewlcoins. But what they give in exchenge?

Thier own unbacked currencies? Their goods ("hello friend it is Kingdom of Chinka-Chonka i will gib u ten dogs for some kewlcoins. U don't like dogs? we only have dogs, USD and our currency to exchenge, so what you will take")?

Really, detronization of USD is impossible in next centaury because all that workers from Peru, Africa and so one will not accept anything other than local currency or USD. So in the end of a day all trade will be concerned around USD (as a final good to save earnings for later, or as a road to get some local currency). In theory India and Brazil can just trade in their own currencies IF they will not wish to buy something from other countries not interested in their products.

It will be also EXTREME hard to detronize second large reserve currency - euro. This shit mainly due to their wild bindings around whole third world, but also due to high precentage of GDP located in eurozone (yes, still bigger than China - even if we only coun euro using countries, not euro using countries and countries with currencies pegged to euro).

Yet then you admitted that the dollar was indeed being dumped by Germany, but it was totally all because of the DXY, right?

Wow, you finally starting to understand something. Yes,"dumps" took place when one country wishes to make impact on exchenge ratio of owns currency to USD.

You bragged that Germany has massive gold reserves

No, I stated that Germoney has more gold than ruzzia.

why is Germany growing their gold reserves and not increasing their dollar reserves if gold is useless

Look another time on DXY. I will explain it it few bullets:

- some country have a local currency,
- from some reasons they don't want to have growning price of USD in local currency,
- they sell USD for local currency,
- they sell local currency for USD.

Or sometimes just sell USD for gold to make more USD in circulation. You are getting this, yes? Can you finally give any source of your, uhm, unorthodox economy thesis?

Yet then you admitted that the dollar was indeed being dumped by Germany, but it was totally all because of the DXY, right?

Wow, you finally starting to understand something. Yes,"dumps" took place when one country wishes to make impact on exchenge ratio of owns currency to USD.

You bragged that Germany has massive gold reserves

No, I stated that Germoney has more gold than ruzzia.

why is Germany growing their gold reserves and not increasing their dollar reserves if gold is useless

Look another time on DXY. I will explain it it few bullets:

- some country have a local currency,
- from some reasons they don't want to have growning price of USD in local currency,
- they sell USD for local currency,
- they sell local currency for USD.

Or sometimes just sell USD for gold to make more USD in circulation. You are getting this, yes? Can you finally give any source of your, uhm, unorthodox economy thesis?