What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

[Smug]

Here's a pretty insane idea:

Spoiler: Biblical schizoposting

The great whore riding the beast in the book of Revelation mentioned here

And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Revelation:17:5

-is in some way a reference to the Internet.

I thought what if the 'mother of harlots and abominations' referred to how the Internet is corrupting women and men respectively. Harlot is hopefully self-explanatory.
The thing is, when you go way back to when the word 'abomination' is first used (Genesis 43:32) it is used in a way that means 'something you distance yourself from or put away' - which fits the idea of the Internet turning men into shut-ins.
So I had that idea for a while, but then I discovered troons and, well, 'abominations' seems to fit perfectly now.

 

[DJ Grelle]

Probably not much of a conspiracy theory anymore but this "inflation" the Federal Reserve is combating is actually wage growth. They are trying to stop you from buying so much stuff by making it more expensive to borrow money until your employer lays you off (because borrowing money helps companies with poor cashflow make payroll, among other reasons). Making sure you never get another raise might work too except that we're at almost zero unemployment, so workers have some room to negotiate on salary. And we can't have that.

Why is this necessary in the first place? Why now after over 10 years of near zero interest rates and low inflation? Because politicians feared the wrath of covid doomers, shut everything down, and then approved round after round of helicopter money. Something to think about next time the media and influencers, neither of whom give a fuck about your wellbeing, cook up a boogeyman. I'm probably preaching to the choir at this point though.

Inflation is just a method to keep the poors/middle class poor. You cannot get rich by saving up money. Inflation will just eat into it year by year. It's like a non government tax to equilibrize most progressive tax systems.

Upper middle class/rich people have most of their money in stocks/bonds/ other investments. (Upper middle class/rich is anyone who has enough disposable wealth to buy a single family home in this case).

Those investments outpace inflation most of the time. Often, they don't get extremely rich of their stocks but at least they are not getting poorer like the people who just save cash.

Additionally, this buy-in system (where you have to purchase and hold securities) draws in the wealthy (and thus the powerful) into supporting the continuation of the system as is. Because if the system crumbles, their wealth is gone. They don't have bars of silver and gold stacked in a vault under their home. And revolutions from the bottom up almost always fail (yes, even the communist revolution in Russia in 1917 was lead by the scions of well off families. Communism is a power tool for the failed sons of bourgeoisie. It doesn't care about the labourer and the farmer.)

So TPTB have a system that a) enriches themselves (they own stock too) b) ties powerful societal elements to the current structure and ensures their loyalty and c) oppresses the poors.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

There's a subset of 'conspiracy theories' that I could kind of buy, but haven't gotten deep enough into them to conclude anything one way or the other. For example:
1. I could buy that some weird shit is going down in Antarctica, no idea what yet but there's weird history over there.
2. The ocean probably has or had some crazy shit we would classify as monsters, more leaning towards had because I don't see why there couldn't be some sea monster that was really rare, died off, and the remains dissolved due to time and scavengers.
3. Giants. I'll admit I really like Wendigoon, but even before him I saw those theories and my thought process was that really early in our species history, there could have easily been a much larger hominid that died off due to humans outclassing them like we did with neanderthals, and that idea of really big dudes stuck around in various people's lore.
4. Creatures like chupacabra and hidebehinds and myths and legends like those probably don't exist, but there were and possibly still are some really fucking weird animals we just haven't found yet, or the origin of those stories were a mix between someone seeing something weird or that the monsters were allegories meant to represent the dangers of, say, wondering around the woods at night. American folklore is very interesting and I would recommend looking into it.
5. I think a good amount of Missing 411s or other unexplained vanishings in parks and such are people getting stuck in caves. I don't have that map handy but I think it's been posted around here before. Basically, a lot of Missing 411s overlap with cave networks in parks. I'll be real, caves scare the shit out of me so I am biased, but all the stories we hear about people stuck in a cave are just the ones we know about.

 

[glass_houses]

3. Giants. I'll admit I really like Wendigoon, but even before him I saw those theories and my thought process was that really early in our species history, there could have easily been a much larger hominid that died off due to humans outclassing them like we did with neanderthals, and that idea of really big dudes stuck around in various people's lore.

Gigantopithicus. I think it was around a bit longer than the known fossil record suggests. I wouldn't be surprised if there were clashes between it and the early human species, and it's been a cultural memory ever since.

That said, I do not think it survives today as Bigfoot. I think Bigfoot sightings are of abnormal bears that are walking around on their hind legs, and the foul smell that often accompanies them is the smell of the infection that's causing the abnormal behaviour.

I read a book many years ago that argued that Yetis are rock throwing bears. It was something to think about.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Here's a pretty insane idea:

Spoiler: Biblical schizoposting

The great whore riding the beast in the book of Revelation mentioned here

-is in some way a reference to the Internet.

I thought what if the 'mother of harlots and abominations' referred to how the Internet is corrupting women and men respectively. Harlot is hopefully self-explanatory.
The thing is, when you go way back to when the word 'abomination' is first used (Genesis 43:32) it is used in a way that means 'something you distance yourself from or put away' - which fits the idea of the Internet turning men into shut-ins.
So I had that idea for a while, but then I discovered troons and, well, 'abominations' seems to fit perfectly now.

All attempts to interpret the book of revelation in relation to present-day events stems from the refusal of multiple generations of scholars to accept that it was written contemporary to the sacking of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple by Rome, or a short time after, while it somewhat subtly professed to be a cryptic revelation of those events. Their refusal was, ironically, because they didn't want anyone to entertain the possibility that it might have been written before the sack of Jerusalem, making it genuinely predictive, but in the process they've unanchored the entire book in time, giving carte blanc to shysters and charlatans, to spread all sorts of wild and whacky ideas.

The entire millenarian conceit is founded on this mistake, then supported by arbitrary re-interpretations of other scriptures that were previously understood as prophecies of the coming of Jesus. Daniel's prophecy of weeks, for instance, which is used as the source of the idea that the antichrist will, at some point in the future, make a treaty with Jerusalem and then desecrate the rebuilt temple after three years. Prior to the 19th century, it was taken as a prediction of ministry of the coming of Jesus, who broke his "truce" with Jerusalem after three years and destroyed the temple system in spirit by becoming the ultimate, and final blood sacrifice for all time. Daniel's prophecy roughly (but not exactly) lines up with the timeline between himelf and the arrival of Jesus. It definitely does not line up in any way with a proposed near-future date of the coming of some antichrist figure, as that requires the insertion of an arbitrary pause of some 2000 years right before the final "week".

Anyway, the great whore of babylon was Jerusalem. John's revelation was in the same vein as Jeremiah, condemning the city of David for its lack of faith in God and its misplaced faith in the power of wordly empires. It's a commentary on the great tumult of the era following the reign of the Maccabes: Whether Judah should align itself with Rome or with Persia, both of which were merely earthly powers, which Jerusalem consorted with like a harlot rather than placing its faith in God.

The Romans made that decision for them in the end.

 

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stems from the refusal of multiple generations of scholars to accept that it was written according to MY PREFERRED INTERPRETATION.

Cool story. Okay, now consider the following: if it  is true that what I just suggested is the case, then with what you just threw on the proverbial table it only lines up all the more perfectly. You talk about Daniel's prophecy but the very same one talks of a global kingdom, which neatly lines up with my previous idea, and only works with your interpretation if you already assume ad-hoc my interpretation to be wrong.

The point is that if you're going to ad-hoc assume an interpretation to be incorrect then you're failing to convince anyone outside of your proverbial choir of anything whilst arguing against it.

Think of it this way: if the text IS divinely inspired, then it should be way more clever than you would initially expect. You hopefully understand this concept.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

3. Giants. I'll admit I really like Wendigoon, but even before him I saw those theories and my thought process was that really early in our species history, there could have easily been a much larger hominid that died off due to humans outclassing them like we did with neanderthals, and that idea of really big dudes stuck around in various people's lore.

There are several giant primates that exist in the fossil record, Meganthropus and Gigantopithecus being the most obvious examples. But there's also fossil evidence of early human-ancestors/relatives that were quite large. Heidelbergensis seems to have been about as tall as modern man but heavier, and some fossil femurs point to individuals closer to 6 foot or taller. That's already larger than humans were just a millennia ago.

Most interestingly, Denisovans have left behind very little remains but teeth, however their teeth are much larger than modern human or even Neanderthal molars, which likely means they were much larger than modern humans. And current DNA evidence seems to point to them surviving in SE Asia until as recently as 15,000 years ago. If there was a real race of "Giants", I suspect they were Denisovans or at least close relatives.

I read a book many years ago that argued that Yetis are rock throwing bears. It was something to think about.

A few years ago an expedition to the Himalayas (I think they were part of National Geographic) found bear feces that had DNA indicating the bear was a mix of Asiatic brown bear and Polar Bears, specifically polar bears from northern Europe dating back some 15,000 years ago. So there seems to be a surviving population of Ice Age polar bear-brown bear hybrids living in the Himalayas. That's probably the best explanation of the Yeti myth, I would think. A very strange-looking bear with possibly unusual behavior, and very unusual hair coloring for the region.

Polar bear footprint vs Yeti footprint:

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

You think blacks are all secretly “right-wingers”?

I’ll give it to you, that is a weird conspiracy alright.

Yeah, but the really weird conspiracy theory in that post was the implication that a mass shooting occured on 1/6 lmao

FBI "don't want people who are more likely to do mass shootings to be covering their faces"; apparently it "worked great" because "on Jan 6th when the insurrectionists were so retarded that they didn't wear masks".

So now I want to hear the conspiracy theory on how and why that was covered up

 

[CuzinEd]

I used to believe in all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories in the mid and late 2000's. But eventually I learned it was just the Jews. It's not the illuminati Jesuits or lizard people. It's just Jews.

In the late 2000's I even started watching Jordan Maxwell videos on YouTube. This was back when YouTube wasn't sanitized for normies the way it is now. The Jordan Maxwell stuff was real Boomer schizo conspiritard shit.

I am not saying the government doesn't do things it shouldn't, and all the conspiracy theories are BS. But most of it is. Especially the real crazy shit.

I used to watch Rabbi Alexstein Jonesberg and would actually take him seriously. I thought chem trails were a real thing. I followed all the Boomer nonsense about the North American Union and the Amero. The NAFTA super highway. I believed that militias were real and were made up of capable people and not just a bunch of fat Boomer LARPers. I thought the US economy would collapse at any time. I followed all the stuff about BRICs and was sure that the US dollar would eventually lose its status as the world's currency. That was 10-15+ years ago. That's why I laugh at all the people I see talking about this shit now. It's not new and it's most likely never going to happen. I always like seeing some younger millennial retard or some Zoomer broke brain sitting around talking all the conspiritard shit older millennials would talk about a long time ago.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Why the hell are whales beaching in weirdly high numbers?
My money is on the whales running from Leviathan.

 

[Fek]

Is there anyone who leans towards more outlandish conspiracies like the giant proto-human skeletons hidden by world governments or something?

3. Giants. I'll admit I really like Wendigoon, but even before him I saw those theories and my thought process was that really early in our species history, there could have easily been a much larger hominid that died off due to humans outclassing them like we did with neanderthals, and that idea of really big dudes stuck around in various people's lore.

Rather large/giant human skeletal remains have been found in a few places, though the main hotspot that still exists today seems to be in/around the Pyrenees. Additionally, you may recall seeing photographs of ~10ft tall humans from the late 1800s and early 1900s. I'd suggest this implies a link to "myth" or "legend" surrounding Giants. It would seem some of us carry vestiges from a time where a portion of humanity was capable of growing "abnormally" large, as per modern standards.

If you go digging around, there's info out there to find. Some of it will almost certainly hold up after your own discernment. Promise.

Yeah, but the really weird conspiracy theory in that post was the implication that a mass shooting occured on 1/6 lmao

While I can't speak to the mass shooting itself - there was one shooting on 1/6 that was a fairly impressive bit of farcical govt-sanctioned ragebait. You may recall hearing talks of a one "Ashli Babbitt" being shot and killed during the theater taking place that day. Well, thanks to the wonders of nearly everyone in the first world owning a smartphone? We get to watch this event from several angles from (before the) start to (after the) finish.

Everything Wrong With The Capitol Shooting In 21 Minutes Or Less

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I'd recommend making yourself some popcorn prior to viewing.

It's not the illuminati Jesuits or lizard people.

You're right! It's so much more:

Enjoy.

 

[YE24]

The great whore riding the beast in the book of Revelation mentioned here

-is in some way a reference to the Internet.

I thought what if the 'mother of harlots and abominations' referred to how the Internet is corrupting women and men respectively. Harlot is hopefully self-explanatory.

I like this theory, even if it is at odds with my reading. I believe that the Whore of Babylon is characterized as such to give us an idea of the character of our enemies. Note that it was written before the Talmud was committed to written form. We see that the Whore of Babylon and the Synagogue of Satan are both preached against, and each of these characterizations is important to understand our enemies. Only one religion meets in synagogues. (Greek synagogue means "the coming together of leaders", very prideful and unacceptable to those who are meek.) Only one religion is constructed around whoredom (idolatry) to the ruling God-denying government (Babylon). (Indeed, the "square script" "Hebrew" alphabet of the Zionist-occupied state in Palestine is a Babylonian derivative; David and Solomon wrote Hebrew in an alphabet very near to Phoenician.)

I think that when it all pans out, we'll see that there were MANY interpretations that were concurrently correct, each in its own way. We see this about fulfillment of prophecy in the Old Testament.

The thing is, when you go way back to when the word 'abomination' is first used (Genesis 43:32) it is used in a way that means 'something you distance yourself from or put away' - which fits the idea of the Internet turning men into shut-ins.
So I had that idea for a while, but then I discovered troons and, well, 'abominations' seems to fit perfectly now.

Yeah, the Hebrew is roughly "toebah" and I've read speculation that it is cognate with the term we get "taboo" from, which suggests that it represents something put aside culturally for religious purposes, in the same way that the early church was told in Acts to avoid foods sacrificed to idols.

Christ is the Logos. Sharing logos (reasoned discussion; sensible talk) with our brothers, the lost, and the unsaved is ALWAYS licit for those in Christ, and the practice of Christian "love covers a multitude of sins". I'd be concerned about over-stating your hypothesis, but you aren't, you're saying: "Here's a neat reading. What do you think, friends?" Thus, I'd say that your use of Internet here is lawful and serves as a bit of a counterexample to your hypothesis... but all generalizations are false, and your speech might be the exception that proves the rule, so to speak.

Anyone speculating about Revelation saying that "it's in the past bro" shows zero familiarity with the book, where Jesus returns to Earth to rule for a thousand years with the resurrected bodies of His martyrs, then finally ends Satan and death, and humanity transitions into the era of the City of God, where the evil are condemned to the lake of fire, the saved but reprobate are denied access to the City, and Christ's greatest servants reside in His House. Obviously, the book straddles past and future. The question is exactly where that dividing line is positioned.

I used to watch Rabbi Alexstein Jonesberg and would actually take him seriously.

I've heard that AJ was the kiked-up version of Bill Cooper, but I'm not a student of Cooper.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You think blacks are all secretly “right-wingers”?

I’ll give it to you, that is a weird conspiracy alright.

Jan 6th was done by QAnon believing Republican boomers who hate masks so much that they didn't wear masks when trying to stage a coup. Exactly what the FBI wants. I see the truth has you retards triggered, too

Yeah, but the really weird conspiracy theory in that post was the implication that a mass shooting occured on 1/6 lmao

FBI "don't want people who are more likely to do mass shootings to be covering their faces"; apparently it "worked great" because "on Jan 6th when the insurrectionists were so retarded that they didn't wear masks".

So now I want to hear the conspiracy theory on how and why that was covered up

What was covered up? The insurrectionists were so easy to identify because they didn't wear masks. The FBI's plan worked and your gullible ass is still biting it hook line and sinker. Jan 6th was obviously not a mass shooting, but it was still a political crime done by right wingers who didn't wear masks because Alex Jones told them not to.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Jan 6th was done by QAnon believing Republican boomers who hate masks so much that they didn't wear masks when trying to stage a coup. Exactly what the FBI wants. I see the truth has you retards triggered, too


What was covered up? The insurrectionists were so easy to identify because they didn't wear masks. The FBI's plan worked and your gullible ass is still biting it hook line and sinker. Jan 6th was obviously not a mass shooting, but it was still a political crime done by right wingers who didn't wear masks because Alex Jones told them not to.

You sound like a CNN talking head. Anons exist and Q was obviously someone at Oracle trying to teach autists how to parse data en masse, but “Qanon” isn’t a thing.

And blacks commit way more mass shootings than any other racial group.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You sound like a CNN talking head. Anons exist and Q was obviously someone at Oracle trying to teach autists how to parse data en masse, but “Qanon” isn’t a thing.

And blacks commit way more mass shootings than any other racial group.

You sound like a Newsmax or Fox News talking head. Qanon is certainly a thing. Tons of a&hers spout their beliefs. There's a thread mocking them in Community Watch.

And? The FBI is most concerned with right-wing incels doing mass shootings right now. The Jan 6thers didn't wear masks because the feds convinced them not to, and it worked perfectly

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

What was covered up?

The mass shooting on 1/6 you're implying occured.

 

[870EVO]

I used to watch Rabbi Alexstein Jonesberg and would actually take him seriously. I thought chem trails were a real thing. I followed all the Boomer nonsense about the North American Union and the Amero. The NAFTA super highway. I believed that militias were real and were made up of capable people and not just a bunch of fat Boomer LARPers. I thought the US economy would collapse at any time. I followed all the stuff about BRICs and was sure that the US dollar would eventually lose its status as the world's currency. That was 10-15+ years ago. That's why I laugh at all the people I see talking about this shit now. It's not new and it's most likely never going to happen. I always like seeing some younger millennial retard or some Zoomer broke brain sitting around talking all the conspiritard shit older millennials would talk about a long time ago.

You sound like a former conspiritard that took every conspiracy seriously, overcorrected, and now will ignore anything coming from that side. Because you feel like you've been betrayed.

You sound like a Newsmax or Fox News talking head. Qanon is certainly a thing. Tons of a&hers spout their beliefs. There's a thread mocking them in Community Watch.

And? The FBI is most concerned with right-wing incels doing mass shootings right now. The Jan 6thers didn't wear masks because the feds convinced them not to, and it worked perfectly

Here's my crazy conspiracy theory. There are underage prostitution rings that serve the elite with those tastes. Pizzagate probably stumbled into something. Considering all those accounts associated and discovered during that time are still private.

The QAnon thing was a psyop designed to poison the well, and a good number of idiots fell for it and being the idiots they are, formed a community around it.

I mean we know thats a thing, because Epsteins Dead, the client list was sealed by the Judge. We know theres something there.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I believe in the conspiracy that a species of low IQ monke found a new toy that seemed super useful and amazing at first, they named it "The Internet", and eventually it was prophesized that it'll lead to the monke tribe destruction. The funny part is that the low IQ monkees thought that the toy would allow them to understand fascinating parts of their habitat better, but instead the toy just made them progressively dumber and dumber until they sunk into mental oblivion, completely unable to tell objective reality from the tales told by the toy.
Other than that, not much.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

The mass shooting on 1/6 you're implying occured.

I never said Jan 6th was a mass shooting, I just said that right-wingers are more likely to be mass shooters and that a perfect example of right-wingers being so retarded that they didn't wear masks when attempting a coup because Fox News told them to not wear masks. That's obvious fed work and if you can't see that, then I dunno what to tell you.

 

[ExsanguinateHorizon]

So the giant skeletons stuff was a fun little dive, thanks @Fek . I could see how that would inspire the conspiracy of true giants, if creatures like dinosaurs and mammoths existed why not similarly sized proto-humans.