Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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They can't openly contest the USN (not on open water) but the USN also has additional obligations so they aren't facing the entirety of it, kinda like a reverse Russia-Ukraine situation.
It would be interesting to see if the PLAAF can utilize the advantage of having land based airbases to push the CTF to near maximum range on it's F-35s after (assumedly) yeeting any jets+AAA in Taiwan via ASBS or AShMs, I think if they can do that then the USN is going to have serious trouble since a CTF has been the backbone of the USN since WWII.

Regardless, lots of missile lobbing is my guess, much more than Russia-Ukraine. Like we're talking the entire CSG-5 + Squadron 15 launching all their VLS tubes in a single engagement, every engagement tier.
With respect, I still think you're giving the Chinese too much credit in assuming they'd successfully wipe out the RoC's defenses before they could cause any meaningful damage to the PRC's assets. And as far as the "additional obligations" goes, I think that also is a generous assumption you're making. I'm pretty sure a war with China means places like Africa get outright abandoned and a lot of assets will be shunted towards China instead.
 
With respect, I still think you're giving the Chinese too much credit in assuming they'd successfully wipe out the RoC's defenses before they could cause any meaningful damage to the PRC's assets. And as far as the "additional obligations" goes, I think that also is a generous assumption you're making. I'm pretty sure a war with China means places like Africa get outright abandoned and a lot of assets will be shunted towards China instead.
I'm saying IF, if the PRC can wipe the ROC. I've got family from both sides of the strait so I'd rather it not happen. Personally, I'm not sure of Africa being abandoned because I think the US political establishment wont take any "loss of face". Look how much Afghanistan withdraw was a shitshow, you think a politician (except maybe Biden) would take "loosing" an entire continent?

Back to Russia talk, has there been significant progress of either side suppressing AAA? Or are we still stuck in early 20th century 2D warfare?
 
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Rheinmetall announced that they are currently in talks with Ukraine to export their replacement of the Leopard 2 MBT, the Panther KF51 (following the WW2 German tradition lol).


Hopefully Ukraine still exists by the time Rheinmetall finalizes the Panther. 🌈
I see one thing really sus about the KF51. It has a 130mm gun, and can apparently only carry 20 rounds... It also has the same engine as the Leopard 2... I'm also really skeptical of the gun depression based on some of the videos I've seen. It's kinda sounding like this thing is going to live up to its namesake lol


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:story: It also only weighs 59 tons which is really REALLY sus
 

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It goes back way before that; 2005 Obongo in Ukraine with Dick Lugar (who lost his seat when it was discovered he didn't live in the state he represented)
 
I see one thing really sus about the KF51. It has a 130mm gun, and can apparently only carry 20 rounds... It also has the same engine as the Leopard 2... I'm also really skeptical of the gun depression based on some of the videos I've seen. It's kinda sounding like this thing is going to live up to its namesake lol
The Japanese Type 10 has 22 rounds. I'm surprised they didn't go the Leclerc route with modular armor. Still waiting on the Leclerc T40 though, would've been the western counterpart to the BMPT.
 
The Japanese Type 10 has 22 rounds. I'm surprised they didn't go the Leclerc route with modular armor.
Type 10 along with the older Type 90 have modular armor. The only still in service JSDF tank that doesn't are the remaining few Type-74s that haven't yet been replaced.

20 fucking rounds? Guess they don't expect it to have to do much.
Those 20 rounds are in the turret ammo compartment and more in the hull ammo stowage. While the Type 10 is a meter less in length next to the Type 90. Other dimensions are still mostly the same.

Edit 2: The larger Leopard II, LeClercs, Merkeva IVs also only stored roughly 20ish rounds in their turret ammo compartment. The Abrams always been the odd man out by storing nearly of its main gun ammunition in the turret ammo compartment.
 
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Its not 2005 anymore. China can stand without the US.
what does this even mean lol? Seriously, if you think this has anything to do with anything besides a fascinating discussion on how China became the worlds manufacturer then you are insane. Chinas entire system is reliant on the US buying its goods, allowing it to import US business and other things that make it inextricably linked to the US. It relies on global trade to keep its country afloat, and if it tanked the US market global trade would be fucked to all hell.

Also srsly, wtf do you think goods means? Does that mean total amount of value assigned to the goods? Tonnage? What does cuba importing more from China than the US who is embargoing it have to do with anything? That is the weirdest graphic I've seen for an economic discussion.
 
what does this even mean lol? Seriously, if you think this has anything to do with anything besides a fascinating discussion on how China became the worlds manufacturer then you are insane. Chinas entire system is reliant on the US buying its goods, allowing it to import US business and other things that make it inextricably linked to the US. It relies on global trade to keep its country afloat, and if it tanked the US market global trade would be fucked to all hell.

Also srsly, wtf do you think goods means? Does that mean total amount of value assigned to the goods? Tonnage? What does cuba importing more from China than the US who is embargoing it have to do with anything? That is the weirdest graphic I've seen for an economic discussion.
China is not as reliant on the US as you seem to think.

Total Chinese exports to the US were 577 billion in 2021. - https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports/united-states
Chinese total GDP in 2021 was 17,73 trillion - https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=CN

Which means that Chinese exports to the USA amounted to ~3.1% of their GDP.
 
PSA: I think we are going to see a total Ukraine collapse within six months. They poked Russia far too hard and Putin is spanking NATO and the Ukraine harshly. Nazis, mercenaries, terrorists, trannies, fags, the Ukraine has been infested with degeneracy.
That and the chemical weapons/POW executions are changing normies minds real fast. We're beginning to see serious pushback on support for Ukraine already.

Case in point, as mentioned earlier:
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China is not as reliant on the US as you seem to think.

Total Chinese exports to the US were 577 billion in 2021. - https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports/united-states
Chinese total GDP in 2021 was 17,73 trillion - https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=CN

Which means that Chinese exports to the USA amounted to ~3.1% of their GDP.

Plus at the moment, being China's bitch is looking better than being the US' bitch. The US just weaponized the entire Western economy to try and unseat a President that wouldn't just take years of shellings of Russian loyalists near his border.

I imagine a lot of leaders around the world are looking on and taking note.
 
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Plus at the moment, being China's bitch is looking better than being the US' bitch. The US just weaponized the entire Western economy to try and unseat a President that wouldn't just take years of shellings of Russian loyalists near his border.

I imagine a lot of leaders around the world are looking on and taking note.

Putin being in power is great for the US because his corrupt government decays the Kremlin from the inside.
 
With the amount of SAMs on the ground, I don't think we'll see much aircraft vs aircraft action, especially not dogfight style.
They will be nearly none dogfits just due to the non-existence of CAS in this war. Without CAS no one have a bussiness to go into enemy airspace.
We're beginning to see serious pushback on support for Ukraine already.
Cope is going real hard for someone.

I think we are going to see a total Ukraine collapse within six months.
In next five to six weeks we will see how badly "new great offensive" is going for ruzzkie. First days suggest that they will not fullfill own aims (to capture Donetsk and Luhansk oblsats - they aren't even try to get KHerson).
 
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Artemovsk [Bakhmut] today

Oh no Ukiesisters, how will you get out?
(inb4 its fake, its not important, it doesn't matter, etc)
 
"Russia has lost a metric fuckton of aircraft, tanks and missile launchers! And soldiers!"

"Halp, we are winning! Send more money, tanks and planes!"

Yeah excuse me if I call bullshit on anything Keef says.


The fact Ukraine started this war outnumbering Russians plus the rebels , 3 to 1 almost (And more If you do not count freshly mobilized men. ) And had to additionally mobilize men several times thus far and now is mobilizing the old and young to a point of even kidnapping Ukrainian people not to mention have asked several EE and WE countries to deliver fleeing military ages Ukrainians back to them. Is very much telling who's winning.

Russia itself also had to mobilize because simply put it needs fresh troops for rotation and just lacks the man power to hold the terrain in sufficient force everywhere and in general it's been pretty obvious by the footage that those 150000 men been stretched thin.
This is supported by combat footage and some OOB documents Ukrainians got their hands on. Basically the Russian troops where so thinly stretched that for example it's 20-31 tanks strong tank battalion infantry support consisted of 24-26 men or less. Or a infantry company having it's rifle squads with 5-6 men strong including in some case including the vehicle crew. Which is fucking bad to a point retarded

Why Putin and Co started this without mobilizing first or directly after the initial invasion can partially be explained them being fucking retards and underestimating Ukrainian forces and the build up. Another reason is probably economy. A mobilization would add an additional shock to Russian economy that a that time Russian economy might not have handled

As far as the Russian loses. Ukrainians where already claiming before the Russian mobilization absurd loses up to 100000 men for the Russians. Which is simply not possible as the entire Russian force along with the rebels consisted of 250000 to circa 270000 men. If the Ukrainians truly did inflict such high losses. Russian Army and "Allies" would have crumbled long ago. Same with Americans claiming that 20000
Russians have already died. No mention of rebels. That would indicate that around 60000 to 70000 Russians have been killed captured missing and wounded. A figure that would pretty much collapse the entire Russian force months ago. But that hasn't happened along with Russia running out of tanks, cruise missiles and artillery shells or zillion other things Western and Ukrainian propaganda claims.

Speaking of propaganda.
Regarding that video of the failed Russian assault near Ugledar today. No one's posting the longer version. Because it shows that most of the "30 destroyed vehicles" from the BrOSINT screenshots simply retreated intact and weren't destroyed at all.

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Yeah yeah we know, when Putin touches plants they wither and die. He's literally Hitler crossed with Voldemort

He is a piece of shit along with people who have put him in charge and are behind them.
 
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That and the chemical weapons/POW executions are changing normies minds real fast. We're beginning to see serious pushback on support for Ukraine already.

Case in point, as mentioned earlier:
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On the other hand, there's a fair bit of pushing for escalation going on,
here's a Times article

Ukraine prepared to use British missiles to strike Crimea​

(haven't figured out how to do those neat inserts for article links...)
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