Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Association (SFWA) - Nerds protecting nonces

[Totallyunknown]

her interview with Obscura, Moira Greyland said that sci-fi and fantasy is all rooted in "weird sex"

This was my exact thought as I read through. The early scifi fantasy authors were all fucking weirdos. L. Ron Hubbard wrote science fiction and had weird sex things with Allister Crowley. Off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure Lovecraft was at least a racist but also a recluse. Maybe they aren't all pedophiles but they definitely do weird sex shit.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

I wanted to read The Mists of Avalon because the premise sounded interesting but unfortunately I cannot separate the art from the artist in this case.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

For the thread subheadline how about "legal fund for sex criminals and a fat retard"? It's not technically defamation.

 

[Big Nasty]

Mists of Avalon is pro-feminist, pro-wicca horseshit and it is percfectly fitting that it was written by such a despicable person.

BTW, Samuel Delaney is one of those guys who was molested as a kid and thinks it wasn't half bad.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I'm pretty sure Lovecraft was at least a racist but also a recluse.

Lovecraft was a good boy and dindu nuffin.

He also had a cat with a hilarious name.

 

[Pomniman]

Writers are by and large wetbrained degenerates, whores, and/or psychopaths. Usually all three. Especially the kinds of writers who get off on slithering around in these fruity little clubs for two bit hacks who take themselves too seriously.

 

[Mr Moonface]

@Meat Target I notice that you have a quote from Cat Rambo in your OP, she may deserve her own section as one of the biggest cheerleaders/defenders of creepy behavior,

Here's a tweet of her 'yeah butting' about SFWA pedophilia:



Link My archive addon is broken for some reason, but I'm sure this has been archived.

At the time of this tweet, she was the head of SFWA, from her wiki entry.



'But it happened so long ago' is a common defense by these people. They still lionize Samuel R. Delany, who is still a SFWA member and frequent guest of honor at their conventions.

Speaking of which, here's another good quote for the op:



Taken directly from the NAMBLA website.

 

[Big Nasty]

And, it is not only about the sexual perversions, but also

The beards
The baldness
The glasses
The obesity
The Hawaiian shirts

 

[I Just Can't Do It :(]

@Meat Target I notice that you have a quote from Cat Rambo in your OP, she may deserve her own section as one of the biggest cheerleaders/defenders of creepy behavior,

Here's a tweet of her 'yeah butting' about SFWA pedophilia:

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Link My archive addon is broken for some reason, but I'm sure this has been archived.

At the time of this tweet, she was the head of SFWA, from her wiki entry.

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'But it happened so long ago' is a common defense by these people. They still lionize Samuel R. Delany, who is still a SFWA member and frequent guest of honor at their conventions.

Speaking of which, here's another good quote for the op:

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Taken directly from the NAMBLA website.

"Queer desires forum 1994" They have been doing this shit publicly from the 60s (at least)

 

[Pomniman]

"Queer desires forum 1994" They have been doing this shit publicly from the 60s (at least)

NAMBLA is probably the dirtiest little secret the lgbtPs continually sweep under the rug and downplay. The early fag rights movement in the US was unabashedly synonymous with pedophilia and only slowly distanced itself from the likes of NAMBLA because they were bad for PR. Outside of the sci-fi bubble, Allen Ginsberg is probably a more famous example of a writer who continued supporting them long after the other fags stopped.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

What if AI got good enough at telling stories to put the SFWA out of work as writers?

 

[Commissar Fuklaw]

Sweet I've been looking forward to this

 

[WhiskeyJack]

her interview with Obscura, Moira Greyland said that sci-fi and fantasy is all rooted in "weird sex"

This was my exact thought as I read through. The early scifi fantasy authors were all fucking weirdos. L. Ron Hubbard wrote science fiction and had weird sex things with Allister Crowley. Off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure Lovecraft was at least a racist but also a recluse. Maybe they aren't all pedophiles but they definitely do weird sex shit.

Lovecraft is a special case, IMHO. He was less a racist than someone who was raised in near total isolation and built his entire personality from old books in his family library. Even for his time, he was seen as weirdly outdated in his views, like some time traveling Edwardian in the wrong century. His "racism" seems to be more of a put on to fit with what he thought the outside world was like, than anything else, sort of like a modern autistic trying to fit into society but basing his knowledge of relationships on a bunch of 70's-era porn films.

He also had some undiagnosed mental illness (likely some form of Tourette's or PANDAS and OCD), with a lot of childhood family trauma making it all worse, leading him to near suicidal depression in his teens. In retrospect, I can see why he and Robert Howard got on so well.

 

[Big up Liquid Richard]

Science Fiction and it's fandom as a whole is depraved and fucked up to the core.

I'll take broad generalization for 500.

Authors outside SFWA exist, as you're surely aware, and I can only wonder how do their fans even tie in to this - "never meet your heroes" and all.

That being said, it's rather disappointing to see sci-fi - a personal favourite - creatives congregating into a degenerate little club. Granted, I've never read most of the authors mentioned in the thread, but still.

 

[Coelacanth]

Lovecraft was a good boy and dindu nuffin.

He also had a cat with a hilarious name.

I think it was actually his dad who named the cat. If my memory's right about this then Lovecraft literally did nothing wrong!

 

[Meat Target]

@Meat Target I notice that you have a quote from Cat Rambo in your OP, she may deserve her own section as one of the biggest cheerleaders/defenders of creepy behavior,

Here's a tweet of her 'yeah butting' about SFWA pedophilia:

View attachment 4495865

Link My archive addon is broken for some reason, but I'm sure this has been archived.

At the time of this tweet, she was the head of SFWA, from her wiki entry.

View attachment 4495862

'But it happened so long ago' is a common defense by these people. They still lionize Samuel R. Delany, who is still a SFWA member and frequent guest of honor at their conventions.

Speaking of which, here's another good quote for the op:

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Taken directly from the NAMBLA website.

Didn't she also make some snide comment about Moira?

Also, I would mention the pedo tech journalist Peter Bright, but I can't find any corroborating evidence that he's actually a SFWA member. He's just chummy with Patrick Tomlinson.

 

[Aztec Death Squad]

Great job, OP. I'm sure there's more dirty secrets to dig out of this closet.

He groped a woman on stage at a convention.

Here's the video of the incident you were probably referring to:

Hugo Awards - Harlan and Connie - 2006

Harlan Ellison and Connie Willis, at L.A.con IV, the 2006 World Science Fiction Convention, Anaheim Hilton, Anaheim, CALarry Sanderson

youtu.be

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Science Fiction and it's fandom as a whole is depraved and fucked up to the core.

Fantasy is the hippie, pot-smoking stoner big brother of the nerdy little autistic kid that nobody likes, the science fiction genre.​

- Encyclopedia Dramatica

 

[Milton Luther Keynes]

The Breendoggle Wiki (archive) might be a worthy link to add to the OP. Tl;dr: SF con organizer writes to some friends to say "So, Walter is a nonce. What could we possibly do about this? Nothing is an option. How 'bout nothing?"

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Didn't Brandon Sanderson get #MeToo'd at some point?

Also, to add...I'm a massive fan of sci-fi and space shit but god it's rife with weirdos. Namely this shit which has inspired real-world BDSM cults as an example.