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Is that... a traffic jam in Amsterdam? I thought Jason Slaughter's "The Best Country In The World For Drivers" video said Amsterdam was free of traffic jams because everyone was on bicycles so the roads were clear and uncongested. Could Jason have been cherry-picking and (gasp) told lies on the Internet?! :o
It's not a photo of Amsterdam, it's of Russia, but the point still holds:
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Here's a traffic jam in Amsterdam:
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Note that the picture is from 2008, and the highway has since been widened:
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Even the Dutch know that building more lanes reduces congestion!
 
It's cars' fault why /r/fuckcars users can't find love:
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Lmao. "meet cute on a cobblestone street or a train station" motherfucker real life isn't a Hallmark Christmas movie, get real. You would probably be just as sad and lonely in both a train station and a parking lot. The fact that you're talking to a new girl every week, and yet none of them want to keep talking to you, says more about you than it does "city culture" or whatever. Your personality would be just as shit in Amsterdam.

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> tfw the country that urbanists hail as their Mecca actually has an extensive and robust highway system

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"Car Enthusiast"​

Oof that's a sad watch. I don't understand how guys like this cuck themselves out of their own hobbies.
 
Glad I've found this thread.

"Car Enthusiast"​


Oof that's a sad watch. I don't understand how guys like this cuck themselves out of their own hobbies.
This hasn't been covered much, but self-hating car enthusiasts are just as plentiful as self-hating traffic engineers if not more. It's like white guilt and "cis privilege" all rolled up into one. The FAQ on r/fuckcars even says "ackshually, car enthusiasts hate cars too because there's too many cars on the road."

From what I can guess, this guy fell down the urbanist rabbit hole and probably bought in to the whole thing without taking a second thought. Watching the video, his first reason is that owning 13 cars like he does is awful so he's selling some of them, which does make sense, but in the middle of explaining he cites the "cars are parked 98% of the time" non-sequitur that urbanists like to constantly bring up.

His second reason is that he wanted to make travel videos, but they do poorly on ad revenue, so he did car reviews instead which bring in more ad rev but they're not the kind of videos he likes. Ok, whatever.

Then his third reason is "Cars Are Actually Terrible". Yep, you can guess where this is going. He goes through the entire litany of standard urbanist talking points:

Cars are the only way to get around, zoning laws are bad, cars only benefit the auto industry, cars cause traffic, cars are dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists and drivers are terrible people, the yearly statistics related to fatalities from car crashes ("as car enthusiasts, I don't think we should be ignoring that" ??? terrible logic, I guess this means medicine is awful because medical errors cause 250,000 deaths annually in the US, more than cars' 43,000), blames traffic engineers and urban planners for people dying in car crashes instead of the actual drivers themselves (I guess pharma executives must be personally killing 250,000 people annually too then?), 50% of trips made with a car are 3 miles or less, car ownership is expensive (he "proves" this point with a non-sequitur about how if you invested the cost of lifetime car ownership ($450k) in the stock market instead, you'd get $6.8 million, which he claims is the opportunity cost of car ownership??? I could use the same logic to justify not spending money on literally anything), cars are subsidized (doesn't mention transit is subsidized too), the auto industry "invented" jaywalking (doesn't mention horses which used the roads before cars did), new cars are bigger, people are texting and driving because there's no alternative to driving (no individual responsibility, all external locus of control here).

It's the end of the video now and he says he doesn't really hate cars, he just hates car-dependency and then repeats the slogans about safer streets while saying he only wants to use cars to do "fun" things and just hates having to use them to go to the grocery store(?). Uh, okay, that's some pretty strong doublethink there.

In any case, I don't know if these self-hating car enthusiasts realize that anti-car policies would simply make it harder to own a car and there's not going to be an exception for "but I only want them for fun stuff". But given that the guy from Hello Road has very strong doublethink, they probably don't know, or just think it's "for the greater good" anyway.
 
Watching the video, his first reason is that owning 13 cars like he does is awful so he's selling some of them, which does make sense, but in the middle of explaining he cites the "cars are parked 98% of the time" non-sequitur that urbanists like to constantly bring up.
Another one of those points they love to mention that sounds stupider the more you think about it. My toilet also isn't being used 98% of the time, does that mean it's also "inefficient" and "unnecessary"? Should I try to detach myself from relying on toilet-centric subsidized Western septic infrastructure? Should I just start shitting into a Home Depot bucket instead?
 
Another one of those points they love to mention that sounds stupider the more you think about it. My toilet also isn't being used 98% of the time, does that mean it's also "inefficient" and "unnecessary"? Should I try to detach myself from relying on toilet-centric subsidized Western septic infrastructure? Should I just start shitting into a Home Depot bucket instead?
It also debunks one of their other claims. 2% of a day is half an hour. That means that in order for a car to be idle for 98% of the time, its owner can only have a 15 minute commute at most, which means that car owners already live in “15 minute cities”.
 

This hasn't been covered much, but self-hating car enthusiasts are just as plentiful as self-hating traffic engineers if not more. It's like white guilt and "cis privilege" all rolled up into one. The FAQ on r/fuckcars even says "ackshually, car enthusiasts hate cars too because there's too many cars on the road."

From what I can guess, this guy fell down the urbanist rabbit hole and probably bought in to the whole thing without taking a second thought. Watching the video, his first reason is that owning 13 cars like he does is awful so he's selling some of them, which does make sense, but in the middle of explaining he cites the "cars are parked 98% of the time" non-sequitur that urbanists like to constantly bring up.

His second reason is that he wanted to make travel videos, but they do poorly on ad revenue, so he did car reviews instead which bring in more ad rev but they're not the kind of videos he likes. Ok, whatever.

Then his third reason is "Cars Are Actually Terrible". Yep, you can guess where this is going. He goes through the entire litany of standard urbanist talking points:

Cars are the only way to get around, zoning laws are bad, cars only benefit the auto industry, cars cause traffic, cars are dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists and drivers are terrible people, the yearly statistics related to fatalities from car crashes ("as car enthusiasts, I don't think we should be ignoring that" ??? terrible logic, I guess this means medicine is awful because medical errors cause 250,000 deaths annually in the US, more than cars' 43,000), blames traffic engineers and urban planners for people dying in car crashes instead of the actual drivers themselves (I guess pharma executives must be personally killing 250,000 people annually too then?), 50% of trips made with a car are 3 miles or less, car ownership is expensive (he "proves" this point with a non-sequitur about how if you invested the cost of lifetime car ownership ($450k) in the stock market instead, you'd get $6.8 million, which he claims is the opportunity cost of car ownership??? I could use the same logic to justify not spending money on literally anything), cars are subsidized (doesn't mention transit is subsidized too), the auto industry "invented" jaywalking (doesn't mention horses which used the roads before cars did), new cars are bigger, people are texting and driving because there's no alternative to driving (no individual responsibility, all external locus of control here).

It's the end of the video now and he says he doesn't really hate cars, he just hates car-dependency and then repeats the slogans about safer streets while saying he only wants to use cars to do "fun" things and just hates having to use them to go to the grocery store(?). Uh, okay, that's some pretty strong doublethink there.

In any case, I don't know if these self-hating car enthusiasts realize that anti-car policies would simply make it harder to own a car and there's not going to be an exception for "but I only want them for fun stuff". But given that the guy from Hello Road has very strong doublethink, they probably don't know, or just think it's "for the greater good" anyway.
He seems like someone who got a fleet of cars to work on just to make "cawntent" for youtube and is realizing he's failing miserably at that. Cars are complex machines whose ownership isn't to be taken lightly and without adequate planning. I bet you this dude did exactly that and got the cars without planning things out and is now rationalizing his fuckup to quit and find something else to milk for youtube views.
 
Someone trolled urbanists and /r/fuckcars took the bait hook, line, and sinker:
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This is a low density American county with a population in the millions:
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Those aren't forests, those are single family neighborhoods:
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Compare to Oslo:
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The green areas are either low density (i.e. stuff outside of the 151 ring road) or wilderness (the dark green). The city center (where all the urbanists would live) looks like a concrete blob from a satellite view.
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No, you see a lot of semis on American highways.
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Another person having fun:
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A /r/fuckcars member saw the above meme and tried to satirize it, but his fellow members were unable to see the joke:
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Nope, the bottom picture is Kanas City.

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They did it again:
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Copenhagen has several highways within city limits, and a lot more throughout the metro area.

Socialists unironically like North Korea:
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What happened to "just because they call it the Democratic People's Republic of Korea doesn't mean that it is democratic, for the people, or a republic"?

Bonus: Apparently "Singapore is extremely car-centric":
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We have a cyclist chimp-out because he felt the need to cycle on a fucking trams tracks
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He just felt threatened by the large vehicle, obviously! Clearly we need tram-free infrastructure. Don't you know how much carbon dioxide trams produce compared to bicycles? This would never have happened in Amsterdam.
 
He seems like someone who got a fleet of cars to work on just to make "cawntent" for youtube and is realizing he's failing miserably at that. Cars are complex machines whose ownership isn't to be taken lightly and without adequate planning. I bet you this dude did exactly that and got the cars without planning things out and is now rationalizing his fuckup to quit and find something else to milk for youtube views.
He also didn't learn shit from it apparently, considering these are his last three uploads:
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Those view counts. Owie. That 90s Deville looks nice though.
Of course these people would be the same ones to unironically defend North Korea. The irony of comfortable middle class Westerners touting an authoritarian, communist, military dictatorship as the "ideal" system will never not be funny/sad to me.
 
He also didn't learn shit from it apparently, considering these are his last three uploads:
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Obviously a trend-whore who wanted to be the next Tovarish or Tyler Hoovie. He's clearly aping Hoovie's mannerisms and speech patterns and blowing huge amounts of cash on cars like Hoovie, but he's just not very good.
 
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"Car Enthusiast"​


That video pissed me off enough to stop listening. I'm going to powerlevel a bit.
I own multiple cars currently. They range from reliable to the shit is on jack stands. I've mothballed cars as future projects with a battery saver hooked up to them. This dick saw money being made easy on YT and thought he could do the same. He never really worked on cars before he got in over his head. He likely had a "beater" or two before. He likely thought he could handle dealing with car problems for YT money. He never realized that unless you have a force behind you giving you an impetus. you generally work extremely slowly on cars. He doesn't have to fix up car#8 to get to work. He doesn't have a boss that will chew him out for not completing a job. He is crying on a YT video about how hard it is to keep up with bullshit he created. If he wanted to be a beat down grease monkey he could be. He doesn't and he bought the wrong cars to do anything else.


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Those view counts. Owie. That 90s Deville looks nice though.

Of course these people would be the same ones to unironically defend North Korea. The irony of comfortable middle class Westerners touting an authoritarian, communist, military dictatorship as the "ideal" system will never not be funny/sad to me.
Just wanted say I like your user name and wish I could still buy the good stuff without it being as much as the brand new BS they just came out with. CFCs only matters when it only inconveniences the poor.

That deville also probably has sludge for oil and a black ice tree.
 
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While everyone spergs about the California High Speed Rail and Amtrak, no one talks about the fact that Florida will have high speed rail before California will.
Why you may ask, because a private corporation known as brightline is working on it and so far it's a success, yet everyone wants to talk about amtrak and California's high speed rail that won't be done for years and years to come costing taxpayers millions.
 
New articles from the Daily Rake in the traffic soyboy series.

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This one goes over Wendover Production's video about "One Tiny Law" that makes Amtrak terrible, and deconstructs it pretty thoroughly. I didn't fully realize at the time but it makes sense that if Alan Fisher and Jason Slaughter were praising the video, there was gotta be something wrong with it.

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This goes over one of the blog posts of the Antiplanner, Randall O'Toole. He hasn't been talked about much but he's an anti-urbanist libertarian that's arguably just as dumb as urbanists (his post barely talks about crime and doesn't advocate for the sensible solution, locking up criminals, and neither do urbanists in general).

It also goes over CityNerd's video on crime, which has actually changed title and thumbnail since the last time I looked at it. Title used to be "Urban Crime and Undervalued Cities: How to Think About Safety in Cities With Underrated Livability" but now it's "The Atrocious Ways We Analyze and Talk About Urban Crime".

While everyone spergs about the California High Speed Rail, no one talks about the fact that Florida will have high speed rail before California will.
Why you may ask, because a private corporation known as brightline is working on it and so far it's a success, yet everyone wants to talk about amtrak and California's high speed rail that won't be done for years and years to come costing taxpayers millions.
It's almost like if you have a state with slightly less dysfunctional politics than California you can actually get shit done.
 
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While everyone spergs about the California High Speed Rail, no one talks about the fact that Florida will have high speed rail before California will.
Why you may ask, because a private corporation known as brightline is working on it and so far it's a success, yet everyone wants to talk about amtrak and California's high speed rail that won't be done for years and years to come costing taxpayers millions.
Brightline isn’t exactly what I’d call a success or a private company…it is unprofitable and dependent on subsidies from federal and local government (tax exemption for their bonds, free/subsidized train stations, federal grants, etc.). Since Disney backed out of the Disney Springs station, the one plausible business case it had (ferrying Disney guests from the parks in Orlando to the cruise ships in Miami and back) no longer exists. It also currently operates at 79 MPH, which is highway speed.

Only thing it has going for it is that it actually exists, unlike the CA HSR.
 
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